We need a national divorce

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Caliber
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ts5641 said:

Been saying for a while the gap is unbridgeable. There is no hope for reconciliation. One side believes in freedom, individual liberty, small government, and American exceptionalism. The other side believes in darkness, baby murder, giant government, cradle to grave government control, etc.
We are headed toward a violent civil war. One side is already violent. Once the other one is activated then there's no turning back.
Go to reddit or another liberal hell hole and you'll see how freaking delusional they truly are as well, the leftist truly believe they are freedom fighters, and the right is trying to violently take over the country and install a dictatorship.
Ellis Wyatt
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Only one side is defying the Constitution
Logos Stick
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Caliber said:

ts5641 said:

Been saying for a while the gap is unbridgeable. There is no hope for reconciliation. One side believes in freedom, individual liberty, small government, and American exceptionalism. The other side believes in darkness, baby murder, giant government, cradle to grave government control, etc.
We are headed toward a violent civil war. One side is already violent. Once the other one is activated then there's no turning back.
Go to reddit or another liberal hell hole and you'll see how freaking delusional they truly are as well, the leftist truly believe they are freedom fighters, and the right is trying to violently take over the country and install a dictatorship.

They are total delusional dumbasses.

I played pickleball yesterday with a friend; a Chinese female who has dual citizenship with China and the US. She was born in mainland China.

Her husband - recently retired - worked with a guy who is from Canada and has a green card. Been over here for a long time. The guy's wife - US citizen - told my friend that they were worried about her hubby being deported by Trump. My friend rolled her eyes and said "Trump is not deporting legal residents!"

The tiny mind of a lib is easily manipulated!
misterguinness
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This is a baiting tactic. They want Trump to ignore the lower court rulings so they can further paint him as a dictator who hates workers. Having said that, the Dems seemingly want the US to be a third world country. In third world countries judges are assassinated quite regularly. This is a really bad game to play.
Ag87H2O
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I think the Democrat strategy is twofold. First, do everything they can to obstruct and delay. Second, hope Trump ignores a court order along the way that will help them set up impeachment charges should they take the House in 2026.

Not shockingly, they are playing fast and lose within their Constitutional duties and it is a very dangerous game they are playing. The SC really has to step in soon and hopefully put an end to it or at least put some restrictions/guardrails on the district court judges.
KillerAg21
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Sadly it wasn't granted? Please elaborate on what YOU think was sad about the Civil War?
American Hardwood
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A lasting national divorce won't happen. Even if you could divy up some territory, eventually the left would infiltrate the institutions of the right and would be right back to where you started. The problem is psychological. The pathology of leftism includes narcissism and a heavy dose of envy. It's a toxic combination where they cannot accept that there are neighboring people that believe they are ideological failures (which they assuredly demonstrate every time they achieve some level of authority) while simultaneously cannot abide the success and wealth of those same people. They will be driven to destroy such a neighbor just as they do right now.

And before you can say they won't get past the guns on the walls, realize that leftism can sprout within the walls like a fungus and grow from there. The violence comes later.

About the only thing you can do is declare certain beliefs to be incompatible with your system of liberty and outlaw the practice of those beliefs. Certainly, this is the paradox of a (true) liberal society. The downfall of freedom comes because of the freedom to promote anti-liberalism.
The best way to keep evil men from wielding great power is to not create great power in the first place.
MooreTrucker
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Logos Stick said:

Yeah,it's a broken record but it's true.

We have to split this union.
How? Fun to talk about but exactly how would this division happen?
matureag
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oldyeller said:

Ag87H2O said:

Justice Thomas has been begging for a case to make a determination on whether these district judges have the authority to make these type of nationwide impacting decisions.

Looks like he's gotten his wish. The leftist judiciary has certainly given him a target rich environment.
Will be interesting to see how he would do this without significantly weakening the concept of judicial review.

What about division of powers and jurisdiction. Judicial review was self-bestowed.
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"It is emphatically the province and duty of the judicial department to say what the law is. Those who apply the rule to particular cases, must of necessity expound and interpret that rule. If two laws conflict with each other, the courts must decide on the operation of each." - Chief Justice John Marshall in Marbury v. Madison

newbie11
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Logos Stick said:

Yeah,it's a broken record but it's true.

We have to split this union.

This is nothing but pure partisan obstruction that has nothing to do with legitimate constitutional issues. Enough is enough.


I say no.
MooreTrucker
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Ok. Care to elaborate?
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