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Today Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth signed a memorandum renaming Fort Moore in Georgia to Fort Benning. The new name pays tribute to Corporal (CPL) Fred G. Benning, who was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross for his extraordinary heroism in action during World War I with the U.S. Army in France in 1918. This change underscores the installation's storied history of service to the United States of America, honors the warfighter ethos, and recognizes the heroes who have trained at the installation for decades and will continue to train on its storied ranges.

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Giving it the Fort Bragg let's name it after someone else but still call it the same thing treatment.

I love how Pete's finding alternate heroes to name these forts after. Makes it more difficult to change later.

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One of the most popular stories about the "Sin City" days of Phenix City is that General George S. Patton, Jr. once threatened to cross the Chattahoochee River from Fort Benning, Georgia, into Alabama with tanks to "flatten" the city because of the treatment of the soldiers under his command.

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I do feel for the Moore family. He and his wife are buried on base. I hope they figure out a way to keep honoring him.

For those who don't know, Moore was the real life character played by Mel Gibson in We Were Soldiers.

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Beginning on November 14, 1965, Lt. Col. Moore led the 1st Battalion, 7th Cavalry of the 3rd Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division (Airmobile) in the week-long Battle of Ia Drang. Encircled by enemy soldiers with no clear landing zone that would allow them to leave, Moore managed to persevere despite being significantly outnumbered by North Vietnamese Army (NVA) forces that engaged the 2nd Battalion, 7th Cavalry, only two-and-a-half miles away the next day. Moore's dictum that "there is always one more thing you can do to increase your odds of success" and the courage of his entire command are credited by Moore with this outcome.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Moore#cite_note-Moore2008p162-11][11][/url]

Moore was wounded and earned a Purple Heart. Because the wound wasn't serious, he did not believe he was entitled to the medal, and unsuccessfully tried to return it. He never wore the ribbon or the medal on his uniform.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Moore#cite_note-28][27][/url] The blond haired Moore was known as "Yellow Hair" to his troops at the battle at Ia Drang, also a tongue-in-cheek homage referencing the legendary General George Armstrong Custer, who commanded as a lieutenant colonel the same 7th Cavalry Regiment at the Battle of the Little Bighorn just under a century before.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Moore#cite_note-29][28][/url] Moore was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross for extraordinary heroism at Ia Drang.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Moore#cite_note-WPAoG-4][4][/url] After the Battle of the Ia Drang Valley, Moore was promoted to colonel and took over the command of the Garry Owen (3rd) Brigade.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Moore#cite_note-Guardia141-30][29][/url]

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Rex Racer said:

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I love how Pete's finding alternate heroes to name these forts after. Makes it more difficult to change later.

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Moore was a hero. Didn't make it that difficult to change the name.

Hopefully Fort Hood is next.

Rex Racer said:

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I love how Pete's finding alternate heroes to name these forts after. Makes it more difficult to change later.

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True, but Fort Moore was named after LTG Hal Moore, who Mel Gibson played in the film We Were Soldiers. So it's a bit of a surprise they changed this one.

This is kind of a tough one here.

AviatorAg said:

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Rex Racer said:

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I love how Pete's finding alternate heroes to name these forts after. Makes it more difficult to change later.

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True, but Fort Moore was named after LTG Hal Moore, who Mel Gibson played in the film We Were Soldiers. So it's a bit of a surprise they changed this one.

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I get it, but he just wants to rename them to what they were before.

AviatorAg said:

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Rex Racer said:

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I love how Pete's finding alternate heroes to name these forts after. Makes it more difficult to change later.

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True, but Fort Moore was named after LTG Hal Moore, who Mel Gibson played in the film We Were Soldiers. So it's a bit of a surprise they changed this one.

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Yea this crap is just pandering at this point. Moore was a great and courageous man.

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This is kind of a tough one here.

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Agreed. Hal Moore was an oustanding war hero and a great American. I think base name changes are stupid and nothing more than silly virtue signaling, but at least they changed Benning to a perfectly good American military replacement.

God Bless LTG Hal Moore!

3rd Platoon said:

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usmcbrooks said:

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This is kind of a tough one here.

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Agreed. Hal Moore was an oustanding war hero and a great American. I think base name changes are stupid and nothing more than silly virtue signaling, but at least they changed Benning to a perfectly good American military replacement.

God Bless LTG Hal Moore!

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Jack Geoghegan: What do you think about being a soldier and a father?
Hal Moore: I hope that being good at the one makes me better at the other.
But, I won't push my luck.

Yeah....this one is tough for sure

This is a tough one for me. It was Benning when I was there but dang LTG Moore was one of the finest to wear the uniform.

There's something about warriors like him and Chesty Puller where you know they won't get so much as a scratch on them.

It's a shame all this "renaming" got started in the first place.

Aust Ag said:

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It's a shame all this "renaming" got started in the first place.

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The original shame was the Army deciding to name bases after men who broke their oaths and took up arms against the United States in the first place.

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Aust Ag said:

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It's a shame all this "renaming" got started in the first place.

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The original shame was the Army deciding to name bases after men who broke their oaths and took up arms against the United States in the first place.

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So, shall we rename everything named /Washington, Franklin, Jefferson, Adams, wtc. etc.?

My prediction is that Captain Robert B. Hood is about to become really famous.

Hood's extraordinary heroism in action while serving with the U.S. Army's Battery E/12th Field Artillery/2d Division/Army Expeditionary Forces near Thiaucourt, France, 12 September 1918, resulted in his being awarded the Distinguished Service Cross.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/49206759/robert_benjamin-hood

https://valor.militarytimes.com/recipient/recipient-12554/

Charlie 31 said:

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My prediction is that Captain Robert B. Hood is about to become really famous.

Hood's extraordinary heroism in action while serving with the U.S. Army's Battery E/12th Field Artillery/2d Division/Army Expeditionary Forces near Thiaucourt, France, 12 September 1918, resulted in his being awarded the Distinguished Service Cross.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/49206759/robert_benjamin-hood

https://valor.militarytimes.com/recipient/recipient-12554/

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It's gonna be really interesting when Hegseth finds a reason to name the largest base in Texas after a guy from Kansas over a Texan who received the Medal of Honor, that's for sure.

These situations are very complex to me.

On the one hand, you have generations of service members who went through Bragg, Hood, Benning, Gordon etc., and all of us know where those are and what it means to have served at those places. It's hard for me to say I did a tour at Ft Eisenhower, because know one knows what I'm talking about, so I inevitably have to say Gordon anyway. You can't erase the tradition of places like Bragg and Benning from existence.

On the other hand, the government already spent millions of dollars rebranding these bases and now they are going to do it again... Just a stupid and frivolous use of taxpayer money by both sides. Eventually I could learn to live with the new names of it meant not having the government just blow through money like this just to troll a rival political party.

Oh good lord.

Initially called Camp Hood, it was renamed by the Department of Defense in February 1943 for the Confederate General John Bell Hood, who commanded Hood's Texas Brigade during the American Civil War, part of a series of new training camps named for notable regional military leaders together with Camps Carson, Campbell and Atterbury.

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These situations are very complex to me.

On the one hand, you have generations of service members who went through Bragg, Hood, Benning, Gordon etc., and all of us know where those are and what it means to have served at those places. It's hard for me to say I did a tour at Ft Eisenhower, because know one knows what I'm talking about, so I inevitably have to say Gordon anyway. You can't erase the tradition of places like Bragg and Benning from existence.

On the other hand, the government already spent millions of dollars rebranding these bases and now they are going to do it again... Just a stupid and frivolous use of taxpayer money by both sides. Eventually I could learn to live with the new names of it meant not having the government just blow through money like this just to troll a rival political party.

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My longstanding premise is that the bases shouldn't have been named after the guys they were named after in the first place, but I wasn't demanding the names be changed in any event. But now, the names are gonna get changed back and forth ad naseum, and it's a stupid waste of money and time.

Naming the bases for Confederates was a big part of the unification of the country as WWII approached. That weak people are upset 80 years later doesn't concern me

Funny that the Navy and Marine Corps didn't feel the need to create unity by naming ships and bases after Confederates, but the Army did.

Edit: yes, this is a Marine sticking a thumb in the eye of the Army

General Moore called it Fort Benning back in his day too

Interesting story on GEN Moore.

He tried to return his Purple Heart as he didn't feel he was injured enough to deserve it. In his own words:

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I have great respect for the Purple Heart Medal and would be proud to wear it if I consider it were fully earned by me in the future. In the case of this particular award, it was presented on the basis of a superficial "punji-stake" injury in Vietnam in October 1965. I do not feel that I earned the award for that slight injury and hence have never worn it, do not intend to, and request my records be set straight.

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His request was refused but he chose not to wear the ribbon. He's not wearing the Purple Heart ribbon in the picture above/

jacketman03 said:

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Funny that the Navy and Marine Corps didn't feel the need to create unity by naming ships and bases after Confederates, but the Army did.

Edit: yes, this is a Marine sticking a thumb in the eye of the Army

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I think you unknowingly answered your own question. Let's see if you figure it out.

Hal Moore would not have wanted the base to be named after him…..

Weak. Better than nothing, I guess.

Aust Ag said:

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It's a shame all this "renaming" got started in the first place.

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There is almost nothing sacred to the left except for abortion and self-glorification.

1st 2 items of the leftist 10 commandments.

jacketman03 said:

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Funny that the Navy and Marine Corps didn't feel the need to create unity by naming ships and bases after Confederates, but the Army did.

Edit: yes, this is a Marine sticking a thumb in the eye of the Army

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Navy_ships_commemorating_the_Confederate_States_of_America

And if you are upset over people who rebelled against the United States, took up arms, and were defeated, how about:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._military_equipment_named_for_Native_Americana