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... nothing happened?

The economy didn't crash. Civil War didn't break out. Everyday life continued. The Earth didn't spin off its axis.

In other words - nothing that was defunded created value added.

Kinda funny to watch the MSM react in horror when an elected candidate does exactly what he said he was going to do.

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You have your head in the sand. We're already seeing immediate impact of Trump and Musk's erratic 'DOGE' hack and slash. If an economic crash and civil war are your only binary metrics of impact then continue on and see what happens.

https://www.axios.com/2025/02/26/musk-doge-science-cuts-universities-fallout

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NIH cuts are most immediately hitting graduate education programs.

• The University of Pennsylvania said it would reduce graduate admissions, pointing in part to the NIH cuts, reported The Daily Pennsylvanian.
• The University of Pittsburgh, Vanderbilt University and University of Southern California are among institutions that temporarily paused Ph.D. program admissions but have since resumed the process, per Inside Higher Ed.
• Meanwhile, Columbia's medical school and MIT, among others, have frozen hiring.

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2025/02/24/doge-layoffs-pose-growing-risk-to-us-economy-and-markets-says-apollo-economist/

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More than 75,000 federal government employees voluntarily took a buyout, while layoffs that could affect up to 220,000 probationary workers have been carried out at agencies including the Internal Revenue Service and the Forest Service.

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Trump quickly took credit for the initial boost from his victory, ringing the opening bell of the New York Stock Exchange and boasting last month: "Since my election the stock market has set records. The S&P 500 index has broken above 6,000 points for the first time ever, not even close" (the index came within 2% of 6,000 the week before the election). But the S&P has actually declined since Trump took office last month, dropping about 0.3% Monday after sinking nearly 2% Friday as Wall Street turns risk averse.

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The DOGE-related layoffs could number 1 million, according to Slok, who noted the oft-cited roughly 300,000 potential layoffs does not account for the impact to the 5.2 million-person federal contractor workforce as Musk and President Donald Trump simultaneously take aim at government contracts and grants.

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https://www.axios.com/2025/02/25/musk-trump-doge-economic-data

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You can start to see evidence of cutbacks in the weekly initial jobless claims data.

• Over the last two weeks, there have been an average of 1,654 new claims for unemployment benefits in the District of Columbia, which is about three times the 2024 average.
• There were 613 claims to the unemployment insurance program for federal workers in the week ended Feb. 8, up from 382 a year ago. That number is released with a two-week delay and will presumably rise further.

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I would say just cause you're not personally affected, can you say no harm has been done. My friends mother was in a program that helped her pay for injections to keep her eyesight, but now that funding to the program was cut, she's now out of pocket $400 per appointment. Injections was once every two weeks and now they're looking at end of eyesight options because they can't afford it.

My brother, too, who is a USN Veteran, worked with JSOC for years, was working for the DOD for USSF Logistics and now on the chopping block as part of the federal employment cuts. His wife and him just moved to accept this job and now they're faced with possible unemployment.

These stories just expand to many people who are affected though you don't know them. I get cuts and finding waste in Government and expunging it, but there are lives on the other end of this that will be seriously affected.

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Her appointment was $400? Was this an experimental drug? What program was cut that would keep her from getting injections? Not making any sense. Usually, it's the injections that cost that much, not the doctor visit.

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Getting rid of waste is going to negatively affect the people benefiting from the waste, and people who deal with all the poorly run agencies. That doesn't mean everyone won't end up better off once the shift has occurred.

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I guess that's a warm comfort to the recently unemployed and my friends mother who will be blind soon. Not trying to argue, just saying that this will bring suffering and gloating about it isn't necessarily a cool thing. My brother is a Former Student, former Ross Volunteer, Corps CO, and Naval Officer veteran. Not sure he deserves to suffer.

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Why don't you help them out? Why should we?

Charity begins at home.

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Why have a government at all if it won't bankrupt itself to pay for ailment a citizen has?

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Not sure what the cartoonist means by functioning better. The value of twitter is only 20% of what it was when he bought it.

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Or maybe it was overvalued to begin with.

Elon has trimmed the massive fat and actually made it profitable for the first time in its history.

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Where the hell did you hear that? It's not even remotely close to profitable.

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Not sure what the cartoonist means by functioning better. The value of twitter is only 20% of what it was when he bought it.

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Or maybe it was overvalued to begin with.

Elon has trimmed the massive fat and actually made it profitable for the first time in its history.

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Where the hell did you hear that? It's not even remotely close to profitable.

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How do you know what their revenue is? Are you just guessing it's not?

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Not sure what the cartoonist means by functioning better. The value of twitter is only 20% of what it was when he bought it.

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Or maybe it was overvalued to begin with.

Elon has trimmed the massive fat and actually made it profitable for the first time in its history.

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Where the hell did you hear that? It's not even remotely close to profitable.

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It is profitable before you factor in the debt burden. And around break-even to small loss after debt burden.

Pretty common for that to be the case following an acquisition financed with substantial debt and as the company stabilizes post-acquisition the debt holders are then brought in for a restructuring, which with ongoing profitability and advertisers returning, the terms will be favorable.

Or, Musk can pull out the ATM and buy the debt back and pocket the $1.2B currently being paid in interest.

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Not sure what the cartoonist means by functioning better. The value of twitter is only 20% of what it was when he bought it.

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X raised capital last week on a $44 Billion valuation. The private equity world thinks it's worth $44 billion and then some.

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Not sure what the cartoonist means by functioning better. The value of twitter is only 20% of what it was when he bought it.

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Or maybe it was overvalued to begin with.

Elon has trimmed the massive fat and actually made it profitable for the first time in its history.

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Where the hell did you hear that? It's not even remotely close to profitable.

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How do you know what their revenue is? Are you just guessing it's not?

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Again, most investment companies with lots of insider knowledge have estimated twitters profitability and value. I'm going with their expertise.

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Or maybe it was overvalued to begin with.

Elon has trimmed the massive fat and actually made it profitable for the first time in its history.

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Where the hell did you hear that? It's not even remotely close to profitable.

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How do you know what their revenue is? Are you just guessing it's not?

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Again, most investment companies with lots of insider knowledge have estimated twitters profitability and value. I'm going with their expertise.

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When have they ever been wrong?

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Not sure what the cartoonist means by functioning better. The value of twitter is only 20% of what it was when he bought it.

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Or maybe it was overvalued to begin with.

Elon has trimmed the massive fat and actually made it profitable for the first time in its history.

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Where the hell did you hear that? It's not even remotely close to profitable.

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How do you know what their revenue is? Are you just guessing it's not?

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Again, most investment companies with lots of insider knowledge have estimated twitters profitability and value. I'm going with their expertise.

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When have they ever been wrong?

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Imagine ignoring the valuations by private equity and banks and instead going with "insider knowledge" estimates.

I may see what Letitia James thinks it worth as she seems to be in the know on valuing assets.

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Not sure what the cartoonist means by functioning better. The value of twitter is only 20% of what it was when he bought it.

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Or maybe it was overvalued to begin with.

Elon has trimmed the massive fat and actually made it profitable for the first time in its history.

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Where the hell did you hear that? It's not even remotely close to profitable.

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How do you know what their revenue is? Are you just guessing it's not?

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Again, most investment companies with lots of insider knowledge have estimated twitters profitability and value. I'm going with their expertise.

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When have they ever been wrong?

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I fully understand that this forum doesn't want any kind of narrative that Musk is anything other than a brilliant businessman. Understood. And I know that "expert" opinion is universally accepted when it fits the narrative and universally discarded when it doesn't. With such comments as, "When have they ever been wrong?"

I'm just not a narrative kind of person. To answer your question. I've been remarkably impressed with the accuracy of my investment company.

We are way too early in the game to be spiking the football. While cutting gov spending and jobs it probably the prudent option, it will likely have short term impacts to GDP and employment. Withdrawal symptoms are a thing.

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We are way too early in the game to be spiking the football. While cutting gov spending and jobs it probably the prudent option, it will likely have short term impacts to GDP and employment. Withdrawal symptoms are a thing.

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Probably?

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But just wait until this Friday. The TikTokers are planning a big f-u to "Orange man Bad."

They won't spend any $.

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They need to all go buy toilet paper before Friday for the tears they're gonna have when nothing happens

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Getting rid of waste is going to negatively affect the people benefiting from the waste, and people who deal with all the poorly run agencies. That doesn't mean everyone won't end up better off once the shift has occurred.

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I guess that's a warm comfort to the recently unemployed and my friends mother who will be blind soon. Not trying to argue, just saying that this will bring suffering and gloating about it isn't necessarily a cool thing. My brother is a Former Student, former Ross Volunteer, Corps CO, and Naval Officer veteran. Not sure he deserves to suffer.

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Fixing something that is broken is always something to celebrate. Being told we don't care about people's suffering when pointing out that the system is broken and making things worse for the last 30 years makes us not care about your concern.

People suffer in life. That sucks, but it is also part of life. When government is the worst way to "help", since it creates more problems than it solves, it should be celebrated that your family isn't going to be "helped" that way anymore, and they can be "helped" in a better way.

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Not sure what the cartoonist means by functioning better. The value of twitter is only 20% of what it was when he bought it.

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How do you know what Twitter is worth? It's private.

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They read it on Threads.

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Not sure what the cartoonist means by functioning better. The value of twitter is only 20% of what it was when he bought it.

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Or maybe it was overvalued to begin with.

Elon has trimmed the massive fat and actually made it profitable for the first time in its history.

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Where the hell did you hear that? It's not even remotely close to profitable.

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How do you know what their revenue is? Are you just guessing it's not?

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Again, most investment companies with lots of insider knowledge have estimated twitters profitability and value. I'm going with their expertise.

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When have they ever been wrong?

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I fully understand that this forum doesn't want any kind of narrative that Musk is anything other than a brilliant businessman. Understood. And I know that "expert" opinion is universally accepted when it fits the narrative and universally discarded when it doesn't. With such comments as, "When have they ever been wrong?"

I'm just not a narrative kind of person. To answer your question. I've been remarkably impressed with the accuracy of my investment company.

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Explains why you hate him then. I got my answer, thank you. Well, you took narrative hook, line and sinker for 4 years, so I'll trust the board over your opinion.

Has anything actually been shutdown?

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Not sure what the cartoonist means by functioning better. The value of twitter is only 20% of what it was when he bought it.

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How do you know what Twitter is worth? It's private.

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They read it on Threads.

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Well, he trusts his investment guys, so there you go.

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We are way too early in the game to be spiking the football. While cutting gov spending and jobs it probably the prudent option, it will likely have short term impacts to GDP and employment. Withdrawal symptoms are a thing.

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Probably?

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Sorry it is necessary. But there will likely be short-term blowback.

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Not sure what the cartoonist means by functioning better. The value of twitter is only 20% of what it was when he bought it.

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Or maybe it was overvalued to begin with.

Elon has trimmed the massive fat and actually made it profitable for the first time in its history.

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Where the hell did you hear that? It's not even remotely close to profitable.

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How do you know what their revenue is? Are you just guessing it's not?

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Again, most investment companies with lots of insider knowledge have estimated twitters profitability and value. I'm going with their expertise.

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When have they ever been wrong?

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I fully understand that this forum doesn't want any kind of narrative that Musk is anything other than a brilliant businessman. Understood. And I know that "expert" opinion is universally accepted when it fits the narrative and universally discarded when it doesn't. With such comments as, "When have they ever been wrong?"

I'm just not a narrative kind of person. To answer your question. I've been remarkably impressed with the accuracy of my investment company.

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Explains why you hate him then. I got my answer, thank you. Well, you took narrative hook, line and sinker for 4 years, so I'll trust the board over your opinion.

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Hate him? Not remotely.

Narrative? I'm not in love with any politician or party enough to support them blindly on an issue without engaging in critical thinking. Which allows me to praise someone one day on an issue, and criticize him on another issue the next day. You might want to give it a shot yourself!!!

And if we're engaging in a tad of critical thinking…………it wasn't my opinion……..it was the opinions of Fisher and Fidelity Investments. Who I'm quite sure, before releasing statements like that, talk with employees, private equity firms, banks, and their own experts. But hey……….trust random guys on a forum over the investment experts! In fact…….please…….ignore the investment firms and use the experts on here to invest your money. Sure it will work out great for you.

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Not sure what the cartoonist means by functioning better. The value of twitter is only 20% of what it was when he bought it.

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Or maybe it was overvalued to begin with.

Elon has trimmed the massive fat and actually made it profitable for the first time in its history.

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Where the hell did you hear that? It's not even remotely close to profitable.

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How do you know what their revenue is? Are you just guessing it's not?

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Again, most investment companies with lots of insider knowledge have estimated twitters profitability and value. I'm going with their expertise.

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When have they ever been wrong?

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I fully understand that this forum doesn't want any kind of narrative that Musk is anything other than a brilliant businessman. Understood. And I know that "expert" opinion is universally accepted when it fits the narrative and universally discarded when it doesn't. With such comments as, "When have they ever been wrong?"

I'm just not a narrative kind of person. To answer your question. I've been remarkably impressed with the accuracy of my investment company.

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Explains why you hate him then. I got my answer, thank you. Well, you took narrative hook, line and sinker for 4 years, so I'll trust the board over your opinion.

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Hate him? Not remotely.

Narrative? I'm not in love with any politician or party enough to support them blindly on an issue without engaging in critical thinking. Which allows me to praise someone one day on an issue, and criticize him on another issue the next day. You might want to give it a shot yourself!!!

And if we're engaging in a tad of critical thinking…………it wasn't my opinion……..it was the opinions of Fisher and Fidelity Investments. Who I'm quite sure, before releasing statements like that, talk with employees, private equity firms, banks, and their own experts. But hey……….trust random guys on a forum over the investment experts! In fact…….please…….ignore the investment firms and use the experts on here to invest your money. Sure it will work out great for you.

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Expected swarmy response. When one says, " I'm not in love with either party" that's bold face lie. You use that to cover tracks. Makes you sound "independent" which we know isn't true.

Fisher Investments? Really? I give you credit for Fidelity.

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We are way too early in the game to be spiking the football. While cutting gov spending and jobs it probably the prudent option, it will likely have short term impacts to GDP and employment. Withdrawal symptoms are a thing.

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Probably?

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Sorry it is necessary. But there will likely be short-term blowback.

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Beats the hell out of the alternative.

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Not sure what the cartoonist means by functioning better. The value of twitter is only 20% of what it was when he bought it.

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Or maybe it was overvalued to begin with.

Elon has trimmed the massive fat and actually made it profitable for the first time in its history.

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Where the hell did you hear that? It's not even remotely close to profitable.

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How do you know what their revenue is? Are you just guessing it's not?

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Again, most investment companies with lots of insider knowledge have estimated twitters profitability and value. I'm going with their expertise.

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When have they ever been wrong?

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I fully understand that this forum doesn't want any kind of narrative that Musk is anything other than a brilliant businessman. Understood. And I know that "expert" opinion is universally accepted when it fits the narrative and universally discarded when it doesn't. With such comments as, "When have they ever been wrong?"

I'm just not a narrative kind of person. To answer your question. I've been remarkably impressed with the accuracy of my investment company.

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Explains why you hate him then. I got my answer, thank you. Well, you took narrative hook, line and sinker for 4 years, so I'll trust the board over your opinion.

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Hate him? Not remotely.

Narrative? I'm not in love with any politician or party enough to support them blindly on an issue without engaging in critical thinking. Which allows me to praise someone one day on an issue, and criticize him on another issue the next day. You might want to give it a shot yourself!!!

And if we're engaging in a tad of critical thinking…………it wasn't my opinion……..it was the opinions of Fisher and Fidelity Investments. Who I'm quite sure, before releasing statements like that, talk with employees, private equity firms, banks, and their own experts. But hey……….trust random guys on a forum over the investment experts! In fact…….please…….ignore the investment firms and use the experts on here to invest your money. Sure it will work out great for you.

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Expected swarmy response. When one says, " I'm not in love with either party" that's bold face lie. You use that to cover tracks. Makes you sound "independent" which we know isn't true.

Fisher Investments? Really? I give you credit for Fidelity.

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I'm not independent. I'm a registered Republican who has voted in every single election since 80'. Voted Republican for president every single time but one, where I voted for neither major party as a protest vote. Stupid, I admit.

And no……..swarmy or not……… I have plenty of issues with the Republican Party and don't automatically support everything they do. It's called common sense.

And yes, I've owned my own business 35 years now. Quite successful if I may pat myself on the back. And many posters on TexAgs, especially on the Outdoors forum know me personally and have used my services. Have retirement accounts with both firms.

Sorry…….your summation of me couldn't have been more wrong.

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Not sure what the cartoonist means by functioning better. The value of twitter is only 20% of what it was when he bought it.

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twitter hasn't been sold or raised capital at a new valuation. It is worth exactly what he paid.

The biden apologists, NeverTrumpers, and those with TDS will never be happy. They will find fault with everything he does. Trump has done more to right the ship in less than two months than any, and all, in the past 20 years. Certainly not perfect but heading in the right direction.

If he closes 50% of an agency, that is better than making no cuts at all. There will be some people who are unhappy, they have become used to their situation, much of which the rest of us have paid for.

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Nope. Government slow rolling a lot of payments that they are going to be forced to make anyway though.

It's definitely been a case study on being in a business dependent on the government. Your funding is always going to be at the mercy of the next election. I have a friend who runs a non-profit that provides job training and housing assistance to refugees. They had to lay off 80% of the organization and might need to shut down entirely.

The bigger questions are going to be around healthcare and defense spending. Does Elon have the balls to cut homeland security spending?

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Hate him? Not remotely.

Narrative? I'm not in love with any politician or party enough to support them blindly on an issue without engaging in critical thinking. Which allows me to praise someone one day on an issue, and criticize him on another issue the next day. You might want to give it a shot yourself!!!

And if we're engaging in a tad of critical thinking…………it wasn't my opinion……..it was the opinions of Fisher and Fidelity Investments. Who I'm quite sure, before releasing statements like that, talk with employees, private equity firms, banks, and their own experts. But hey……….trust random guys on a forum over the investment experts! In fact…….please…….ignore the investment firms and use the experts on here to invest your money. Sure it will work out great for you.

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Not surprised that Fisher and Fidelity are not high on X. Remember Fisher says "they make money when you make money" and with there not really a way for the average investor to make money on X, then understandable they are not going to fawn over it. Fidelity is a joke and its disappointing people consider anything they say as reliable. They all up in the ESG and DEI ****nannigans.

And no, they likely do not have any insight above what Bloomberg has and they are positive. Also, banks usually sell debt when there is a market to sell that debt at a premium, which is what the banks were doing as recently as January.


https://nypost.com/2025/01/30/business/xs-financials-appear-to-be-recovering-as-banks-prepare-for-debt-sale-report/

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The debt is being pitched to potential buyers with a set of financials showing about $1.2 billion of adjusted earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization (EBITDA) in 2024, people familiar with the matter told Bloomberg.


Those earnings include roughly $400 million of EBITDA on $710 million of revenue in the final three months of the year an increase from the previous two quarters, according to the report.

The $1.2 billion figure is about the same as before Musk took over, but the latest financials come with a significant list of adjustments that improve the outlook, according to Bloomberg.

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Nope. Government slow rolling a lot of payments that they are going to be forced to make anyway though.

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US AID had their name removed from the building and the space has been leased by CBP.

At day 37 of Trump 2.0 things are happening at a speed not seen in government (unless its more money to Ukraine).

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/border-patrol-taking-control-former-usaid-hq

I agree with the OP, but I also think it's way too early to start the victory dances. The knock-on effects could be large, especially in certain regions. I would wait until the 2026 midterms before declaring victory because that will be a true litmus test of how people feel about the Trump administration and Republicans in congress.

What Do Mass Federal Layoffs Mean for the Labor Market? - WSJ

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I agree with the OP, but I also think it's way too early to start the victory dances. The knock-on effects could be large, especially in certain regions. I would wait until the 2026 midterms before declaring victory because that will be a true litmus test of how people feel about the Trump administration and Republicans in congress.

What Do Mass Federal Layoffs Mean for the Labor Market? - WSJ

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Regardless of the midterms and the potential (temporary) hit on the economy, what Trump and DOGE are doing is worth it. Sometimes you have to do what is right, not what is popular. Elon explained this again today at the Cabinet meeting.

If you are worried about your 401k, park it until after the midterms.

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Not sure what the cartoonist means by functioning better. The value of twitter is only 20% of what it was when he bought it.

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Or maybe it was overvalued to begin with.

Elon has trimmed the massive fat and actually made it profitable for the first time in its history.

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Where the hell did you hear that? It's not even remotely close to profitable.

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How do you know what their revenue is? Are you just guessing it's not?

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Again, most investment companies with lots of insider knowledge have estimated twitters profitability and value. I'm going with their expertise.

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When have they ever been wrong?

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I fully understand that this forum doesn't want any kind of narrative that Musk is anything other than a brilliant businessman. Understood. And I know that "expert" opinion is universally accepted when it fits the narrative and universally discarded when it doesn't. With such comments as, "When have they ever been wrong?"

I'm just not a narrative kind of person. To answer your question. I've been remarkably impressed with the accuracy of my investment company.

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Explains why you hate him then. I got my answer, thank you. Well, you took narrative hook, line and sinker for 4 years, so I'll trust the board over your opinion.

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Hate him? Not remotely.

Narrative? I'm not in love with any politician or party enough to support them blindly on an issue without engaging in critical thinking. Which allows me to praise someone one day on an issue, and criticize him on another issue the next day. You might want to give it a shot yourself!!!

And if we're engaging in a tad of critical thinking…………it wasn't my opinion……..it was the opinions of Fisher and Fidelity Investments. Who I'm quite sure, before releasing statements like that, talk with employees, private equity firms, banks, and their own experts. But hey……….trust random guys on a forum over the investment experts! In fact…….please…….ignore the investment firms and use the experts on here to invest your money. Sure it will work out great for you.

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Expected swarmy response. When one says, " I'm not in love with either party" that's bold face lie. You use that to cover tracks. Makes you sound "independent" which we know isn't true.

Fisher Investments? Really? I give you credit for Fidelity.

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I'm not independent. I'm a registered Republican who has voted in every single election since 80'. Voted Republican for president every single time but one, where I voted for neither major party as a protest vote. Stupid, I admit.

And no……..swarmy or not……… I have plenty of issues with the Republican Party and don't automatically support everything they do. It's called common sense.

And yes, I've owned my own business 35 years now. Quite successful if I may pat myself on the back. And many posters on TexAgs, especially on the Outdoors forum know me personally and have used my services. Have retirement accounts with both firms.

Sorry…….your summation of me couldn't have been more wrong.

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You don't sound conservative at. I have no idea if you're a registered Republican and the outdoor board tells me nothing. As well, there are plenty of business owners that are liberal as hell. There's already been a few posts rebuke your "fisher and fidelity" investments. I left fidelity and moved to another carrier. As far as I'm concerned, you said absolutely nothing to back anything up. I've read enough of your posts to know….sorry.

And also note that women still had their rights, the alphabet community has not been sent to camps, and poeple are still getting their Medicare and SS checks.

And plans have been drawn with one billion dollars to combat bird flu and bring eggs prices down.

BoydCrowder13 said:

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We are way too early in the game to be spiking the football. While cutting gov spending and jobs it probably the prudent option, it will likely have short term impacts to GDP and employment. Withdrawal symptoms are a thing.

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Brother is a professor at a top 5 medical school. They receive tons of federal research funding. He and many of his cohorts not sure they have a job after this semester.

Sure hoping we don't shut down medical schools.