Anyone notice Trump shut down all these government agencies, and...

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fc2112
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... nothing happened?

The economy didn't crash. Civil War didn't break out. Everyday life continued. The Earth didn't spin off its axis.

In other words - nothing that was defunded created value added.

Kinda funny to watch the MSM react in horror when an elected candidate does exactly what he said he was going to do.
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They're reacting in horror because a large portion of their funding just went away.
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But just wait until this Friday. The TikTokers are planning a big f-u to "Orange man Bad."

They won't spend any $.
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While I agree with the sympathy, I don't know if I would start the victory dances just yet. Some of this is going to take time to work it's way through, and as Trump cuts off some of this funding it's going to hurt our economy (because our economy has been propped up by all of this government spending). Things are probbaly going to get worse before they get better.
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fc2112 said:

... nothing happened?

The economy didn't crash. Civil War didn't break out. Everyday life continued. The Earth didn't spin off its axis.

In other words - nothing that was defunded created value added.

Kinda funny to watch the MSM react in horror when an elected candidate does exactly what he said he was going to do.

Give it some time brother, before you declare victory.
Though I agree that we will be fine.

A lot of American prosperity was like a man on drugs. The drug was debt. Now debt is being cut off and so there will be adverse withdrawals for some time.
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The crashes and near misses of airplanes is the only thing they could possibly point to but the root cause of that is DEI hiring by airlines and ATC as well as outdated software and equipment.
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People affected

- Trans community in Columbia
-Great Britain elected a conservative without our interference
-no condoms for Gaza
- people dying in Yellowstone bathrooms because they got locked in
- lgtbq ngos shutting down due to lack of funding
- catholic charities unable to smuggle in more illegals


Look at all the chaos Trump and Musk caused with their cuts.
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How many agencies have been totally shut down? 1? USAID?
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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Not even all of that one, I think. Other than USAID, some people were supposed to send an email, and they can't seem to manage that one. That doesn't sound much like "Shutting agencies down"
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I'd wait at least until the midterms before you declare victory……….that will be the true litmus test of how the American people feel about it.
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he hasn't gotten rid of entire Departments yet

just AID

and some of it was cannibalized into Commerce Department and State Department

when he shuts down Education Department and moves them all to the states that is when we can celebrate!
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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I would say just cause you're not personally affected, can you say no harm has been done. My friends mother was in a program that helped her pay for injections to keep her eyesight, but now that funding to the program was cut, she's now out of pocket $400 per appointment. Injections was once every two weeks and now they're looking at end of eyesight options because they can't afford it.

My brother, too, who is a USN Veteran, worked with JSOC for years, was working for the DOD for USSF Logistics and now on the chopping block as part of the federal employment cuts. His wife and him just moved to accept this job and now they're faced with possible unemployment.

These stories just expand to many people who are affected though you don't know them. I get cuts and finding waste in Government and expunging it, but there are lives on the other end of this that will be seriously affected.
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rocky the dog said:




Not sure what the cartoonist means by functioning better. The value of twitter is only 20% of what it was when he bought it.
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Getting rid of waste is going to negatively affect the people benefiting from the waste, and people who deal with all the poorly run agencies. That doesn't mean everyone won't end up better off once the shift has occurred.
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Acceptable casualties
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Phatbob said:

Getting rid of waste is going to negatively affect the people benefiting from the waste, and people who deal with all the poorly run agencies. That doesn't mean everyone won't end up better off once the shift has occurred.


I guess that's a warm comfort to the recently unemployed and my friends mother who will be blind soon. Not trying to argue, just saying that this will bring suffering and gloating about it isn't necessarily a cool thing. My brother is a Former Student, former Ross Volunteer, Corps CO, and Naval Officer veteran. Not sure he deserves to suffer.
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t_J_e_C_x said:

I would say just cause you're not personally affected, can you say no harm has been done. My friends mother was in a program that helped her pay for injections to keep her eyesight, but now that funding to the program was cut, she's now out of pocket $400 per appointment. Injections was once every two weeks and now they're looking at end of eyesight options because they can't afford it.

My brother, too, who is a USN Veteran, worked with JSOC for years, was working for the DOD for USSF Logistics and now on the chopping block as part of the federal employment cuts. His wife and him just moved to accept this job and now they're faced with possible unemployment.

These stories just expand to many people who are affected though you don't know them. I get cuts and finding waste in Government and expunging it, but there are lives on the other end of this that will be seriously affected.
Never see any sympathy when layoffs occur in the private sector, so why should we when it is the government letting folks go? Thousands of people affected when Biden stopped drilling on federal lands and shut Keystone down. Not a peep from the masses for those affected. These are necessary actions. The time has come to make hard decisions and cuts. This is the only way unfortunately.
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t_J_e_C_x said:

I would say just cause you're not personally affected, can you say no harm has been done. My friends mother was in a program that helped her pay for injections to keep her eyesight, but now that funding to the program was cut, she's now out of pocket $400 per appointment. Injections was once every two weeks and now they're looking at end of eyesight options because they can't afford it.

My brother, too, who is a USN Veteran, worked with JSOC for years, was working for the DOD for USSF Logistics and now on the chopping block as part of the federal employment cuts. His wife and him just moved to accept this job and now they're faced with possible unemployment.

These stories just expand to many people who are affected though you don't know them. I get cuts and finding waste in Government and expunging it, but there are lives on the other end of this that will be seriously affected.
I can give you 37 trillion reasons why it had to happen. Those effected will adapt and move on.
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aggiedent said:

I'd wait at least until the midterms before you declare victory……….that will be the true litmus test of how the American people feel about it.


Hopefully the major commie propaganda outlets have been defunded so a truthful description of Trump 2.0s first 2 years in presented and understood by the voting population.
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t_J_e_C_x said:

Phatbob said:

Getting rid of waste is going to negatively affect the people benefiting from the waste, and people who deal with all the poorly run agencies. That doesn't mean everyone won't end up better off once the shift has occurred.


I guess that's a warm comfort to the recently unemployed and my friends mother who will be blind soon. Not trying to argue, just saying that this will bring suffering and gloating about it isn't necessarily a cool thing. My brother is a Former Student, former Ross Volunteer, Corps CO, and Naval Officer veteran. Not sure he deserves to suffer.
Why don't you help them out? Why should we?

Charity begins at home.
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Housing in DC got a little more affordable
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t_J_e_C_x said:

I would say just cause you're not personally affected, can you say no harm has been done. My friends mother was in a program that helped her pay for injections to keep her eyesight, but now that funding to the program was cut, she's now out of pocket $400 per appointment. Injections was once every two weeks and now they're looking at end of eyesight options because they can't afford it.

My brother, too, who is a USN Veteran, worked with JSOC for years, was working for the DOD for USSF Logistics and now on the chopping block as part of the federal employment cuts. His wife and him just moved to accept this job and now they're faced with possible unemployment.

These stories just expand to many people who are affected though you don't know them. I get cuts and finding waste in Government and expunging it, but there are lives on the other end of this that will be seriously affected.
I only feel sorry for those who were livid/disgusted that our government was trying to get millions of good honest people, who just want to provide for their families, fired for not getting the experimental trash vaccine.

Anyone who was completely silent or looked away during that disgusting era, where many were punished for wanting to make their own medical decisions, F em.

Your brother, was he vocally p*ssed that people like us were being oppressed? Trying to decide if I should care about his plight or not.
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Who do you think should pay for her injections? Should I pay? Will you pay for my medicall bill next month?

Yes it sucks but any time you are not paying for something, someone else is paying for it.
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aggiedent said:

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Not sure what the cartoonist means by functioning better. The value of twitter is only 20% of what it was when he bought it.
THE ASSESSED value.

Booting a metric crap-ton of bots and an unethical advertiser blackmail will undercut the profit side… but let's be honest: the cultural value of having a mostly free speech platform that doesn't push leftist ideology is unquantifiable.
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aggiedent said:

rocky the dog said:




Not sure what the cartoonist means by functioning better. The value of twitter is only 20% of what it was when he bought it.


How do you know what Twitter is worth? It's private.
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Fightin_Aggie said:

People affected

- Trans community in Columbia
-Great Britain elected a conservative without our interference
-no condoms for Gaza
- people dying in Yellowstone bathrooms because they got locked in
- lgtbq ngos shutting down due to lack of funding
- catholic charities unable to smuggle in more illegals


Look at all the chaos Trump and Musk caused with their cuts.
That's why I have a garage full of condoms!!
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t_J_e_C_x said:

Phatbob said:

Getting rid of waste is going to negatively affect the people benefiting from the waste, and people who deal with all the poorly run agencies. That doesn't mean everyone won't end up better off once the shift has occurred.


I guess that's a warm comfort to the recently unemployed and my friends mother who will be blind soon. Not trying to argue, just saying that this will bring suffering and gloating about it isn't necessarily a cool thing. My brother is a Former Student, former Ross Volunteer, Corps CO, and Naval Officer veteran. Not sure he deserves to suffer.
I don't know your brother but based off the highlighted area, IF he suffers, it should not be for long.
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You are incorrect, a lot of people have lost their jobs, notice when USAID was raided MSM started cutting and firing people.

that is the casualty here and all the bums that filled that USAID office. The small number of employees left were moved to Secretary of State's responsibility and I believe all programs will be eliminated, minus the aids program for Africa, which I think is the only one that survives. Which I am fine with I guess, but eventually that program needs to be handed off to the respective Governments where the programs are being ran. We cannot care for their nasty habits forever, they should know how AIDs is transferred by now
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You assume that is what the money is used for.
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jwhaby said:

aggiedent said:

rocky the dog said:




Not sure what the cartoonist means by functioning better. The value of twitter is only 20% of what it was when he bought it.


How do you know what Twitter is worth? It's private.


Simple Every investment company through careful evaluation assigns it a value. Most are around 20% of its pre-sale value.
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13B said:

t_J_e_C_x said:

Phatbob said:

Getting rid of waste is going to negatively affect the people benefiting from the waste, and people who deal with all the poorly run agencies. That doesn't mean everyone won't end up better off once the shift has occurred.


I guess that's a warm comfort to the recently unemployed and my friends mother who will be blind soon. Not trying to argue, just saying that this will bring suffering and gloating about it isn't necessarily a cool thing. My brother is a Former Student, former Ross Volunteer, Corps CO, and Naval Officer veteran. Not sure he deserves to suffer.
I don't know your brother but based off the highlighted area, IF he suffers, it should not be for long.
I expect he (or she, I don't know) is taking it harder than his/her brother is.
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So where's the sympathy for the 10% that Starbuck laid off just earlier this week? I'm sorry this is impacting people you know but as someone that has been through layoffs and see my coworkers laid off last week and more layoffs coming it sucks but just have to deal with it.
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
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aggiedent said:

rocky the dog said:




Not sure what the cartoonist means by functioning better. The value of twitter is only 20% of what it was when he bought it.
Or maybe it was overvalued to begin with.

Elon has trimmed the massive fat and actually made it profitable for the first time in its history.
 
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