DOGE /MUSK to ask every federal employee to e-mail weekly status or resign

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BMX Bandit
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this isn't about the status report. It's literally finding people that aren't checking their email but still getting paid by our tax dollars


So if someone promptly responds "I worked on stuff" that sufficient?
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FCBlitz said:

I work in the IC and all of my work is SECRET at minimum.
I could not submit a work report even if I had too.

I got a call about this about 9 last night. I am going to drive in to work this morning after breakfast and check emails on JWICS. I SERIOUSLY doubt I will have a email telling to send in a work report for last week that covers CLASSIFIED work.

Personally I think this is nothing more as a counter espionage act to get the chickens in the hen house all riled up because up to now…..all of the people who clearly voted for NOT BIDEN has been pissing and moaning about everything. Everything is followed by "I don't understand", "That's Stupid", or just smirks…..quit. Go home if you can't follow orders.

I will update this post once I go in….
If you work in the IC, you work in the one area that I would fire everyone. The IC and many of its current and former employees have been actively engaged in resistance to the President.

After everyone was gone, I would hire back maybe 20% of you because you do perform a critical function. In the current body of IC, the cancer has just spread too far. The only exception I would make is for active duty military members of the IC, but I would have them training their replacements asap.
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BMX Bandit said:

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this isn't about the status report. It's literally finding people that aren't checking their email but still getting paid by our tax dollars


So if someone promptly responds "I worked on stuff" that sufficient?

Yes, partially. If there is absolutely no response to the email, they're gonna start investigating.
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My maga buddy in the Border Patrol got the email yesterday and his response was, "I have to report everything I do with the dozens and dozens of vehicles I inspect every day. Why do I need to send Elon an email. Why can't he just see what I do?"

He doesn't realize it's just a way to see who is working and who isn't. Still, he and his buddies in the BP aren't all that thrilled with having to do double work.

I told him to suck it up and that more-than-likely this is just a temporary thing to weed out the slackers.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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BrazosDog02 said:

AggiePops said:

When someone is evaluating the workforce to understand who is or isn't pulling their weight this doesn't seem out of line at all. My question though is that with over two million federal employees and only a handful of 'auditors', who is going to review all the weekly emails? And not just read them but know enough about the jobs in question along with the judgment to make decisions about what they're reading?

Yes, as some have mentioned, AI, but AI is still emerging technology and doesn't have human judgment ability.


Trump and musk are going to need a committee. And they will need to have meetings. These amateurs are finding out how and why the government is inefficient by building the inefficiency themselves. They have both highlighted how a lot of work on paper equates to nearly nothing in reality. It's a cute experiment but it reminds me of an Andy Griffith episode where Barney Fife is rooting out crime.


You never heard of Palantir?
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No Spin Ag said:

My maga buddy in the Border Patrol got the email yesterday and his response was, "I have to report everything I do with the dozens and dozens of vehicles I inspect every day. Why do I need to send Elon an email. Why can't he just see what I do?"

He doesn't realize it's just a way to see who is working and who isn't. Still, he and his buddies in the BP aren't all that thrilled with having to do double work.

I told him to suck it up and that more-than-likely this is just a temporary thing to weed out the slackers.
Federal LE is rife with oxygen thieves. I spent over a decade there in two different agencies and was assigned to two others on a task force. The stories I could share would be comical if they weren't so depressing. Federal LE is the opposite of a meritocracy and has been so at least since the early 2000s.
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Rockdoc said:

BMX Bandit said:

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this isn't about the status report. It's literally finding people that aren't checking their email but still getting paid by our tax dollars


So if someone promptly responds "I worked on stuff" that sufficient?

Yes, partially. If there is absolutely no response to the email, they're gonna start investigating.


If there's no response, they will (and should) be canned immediately.

I'm not buying that the contents of the response don't matter. Otherwise just send an email saying "respond if you are a person"

If a person can't take 5 minutes to send an email explaining what they did the last week they should be canned. It either means (1) they are an insubordinate (2) they literally did noting to write about or (3) they don't have ability to type out a few easy bullet points.

Any of the 3 aren't worthy of a job
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BMX Bandit said:

Rockdoc said:

BMX Bandit said:

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this isn't about the status report. It's literally finding people that aren't checking their email but still getting paid by our tax dollars


So if someone promptly responds "I worked on stuff" that sufficient?

Yes, partially. If there is absolutely no response to the email, they're gonna start investigating.


If there's no response, they will (and should) be canned immediately.

I'm not buying that the contents of the response don't matter. Otherwise just send an email saying "respond if you are a person"

If a person can't take 5 minutes to send an email explaining what they did the last week they should be canned. It either means (1) they are an insubordinate (2) they literally did noting to write about or (3) they don't have ability to type out a few easy bullet points.

Any of the 3 aren't worthy of a job

Agreed
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"I inspected dozens of vehicles last week to help secure the border from illegal crossing and contraband"

Tell your buddy he and cut and paste that if he doesn't have 12 seconds to type it out
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No Spin Ag said:

My maga buddy in the Border Patrol got the email yesterday and his response was, "I have to report everything I do with the dozens and dozens of vehicles I inspect every day. Why do I need to send Elon an email. Why can't he just see what I do?"

He doesn't realize it's just a way to see who is working and who isn't. Still, he and his buddies in the BP aren't all that thrilled with having to do double work.

I told him to suck it up and that more-than-likely this is just a temporary thing to weed out the slackers.
The email came from HR and asked for a whole 5 summary points.

Me thinks your buddy should find new work as he is going to be unhappy in a work environment where the boss asks for information.

The mental trickery needed to take "send me a few bullet points" and translate that "report everything I do with dozens and dozens of vehicles I inspect everyday" shows me a person to be culled from the herd.

And when your buddy looks for new work, he need not apply with high performing organizations.
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No Spin Ag said:

My maga buddy in the Border Patrol got the email yesterday and his response was, "I have to report everything I do with the dozens and dozens of vehicles I inspect every day. Why do I need to send Elon an email. Why can't he just see what I do?"

He doesn't realize it's just a way to see who is working and who isn't. Still, he and his buddies in the BP aren't all that thrilled with having to do double work.

I told him to suck it up and that more-than-likely this is just a temporary thing to weed out the slackers.

1.) Patrolled the Mexico border in section 7G
2.) Arrested 16 illegals trying to cross
3.) Attended daily cross functional briefing with US Army MPs,Texas Rangers and ICE.
4.) Helped setup nighttime surveillance equipment.
5.) Attended continuous education training about de-escalation


60 seconds . . . I can write these all day. LOL
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"Patrolling border. Fixed bayonet"
slaughtr
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So let me get this straight, since I'm not that bright. Elon Musk wants an Orthopedic Surgeon at the VA in Peoria to email him what he did this week, even though he's on vacation, or the Vietnam Veteran on the schedule for a hip replacement next week gets his surgery cancelled, because the surgeon is fired. And TexAgs posters all think this is a great idea because they hate IRS agents in D.C.?
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BMX Bandit said:

"I inspected dozens of vehicles last week to help secure the border from illegal crossing and contraband"

Tell your buddy he and cut and paste that if he doesn't have 12 seconds to type it out
They are not looking to eliminate BP Agents. He could probably respond with only this in his email: "I continued my perpetual game of red rover, red rover, send Jose back over. It was a good week in the game. But seriously, they have to go back."

And he would be good.
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Tom Fox said:

No Spin Ag said:

My maga buddy in the Border Patrol got the email yesterday and his response was, "I have to report everything I do with the dozens and dozens of vehicles I inspect every day. Why do I need to send Elon an email. Why can't he just see what I do?"

He doesn't realize it's just a way to see who is working and who isn't. Still, he and his buddies in the BP aren't all that thrilled with having to do double work.

I told him to suck it up and that more-than-likely this is just a temporary thing to weed out the slackers.
Federal LE is rife with oxygen thieves. I spent over a decade there in two different agencies and was assigned to two others on a task force. The stories I could share would be comical if they weren't so depressing. Federal LE is the opposite of a meritocracy and has been so at least since the early 2000s.
I couldn't agree more. The stories I hear about how, now that the border is closed, about how so many agents are genuinely bored just blows my mind.

They average about $100k a year, (yes, with overtime, but overtime is a constant with them) and to complain when they're also talking about being bored is just beyond the pale.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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98Ag99Grad said:

No one is going to read all those emails. They just want more people to quit.

And is someone is actually paid to read all those emails DOGE should fire them because it's a waste of money


It's called AI
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slaughtr said:

So let me get this straight, since I'm not that bright. Elon Musk wants an Orthopedic Surgeon at the VA in Peoria to email him what he did this week, even though he's on vacation, or the Vietnam Veteran on the schedule for a hip replacement next week gets his surgery cancelled, because the surgeon is fired. And TexAgs posters all think this is a great idea because they hate IRS agents in D.C.?


Head of the VA can tell them to ignore this just like Kash did for the FBI.
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slaughtr said:

So let me get this straight, since I'm not that bright. Elon Musk wants an Orthopedic Surgeon at the VA in Peoria to email him what he did this week, even though he's on vacation, or the Vietnam Veteran on the schedule for a hip replacement next week gets his surgery cancelled, because the surgeon is fired. And TexAgs posters all think this is a great idea because they hate IRS agents in D.C.?
Absolutely.

Because TexAgs is filled with completely irrational people who can only look at Elon's post and the actual request and conclude that their will be zero exceptions.

They also ignore that Elon has said that if you don't have to rehire 25% of the people you let go you did not cut deep enough.

People voted for transformative change. That means there will be some bumps. And the folks kicking and screaming about this and those asking about every "what-ifs" simply do not want to see the change America voted for.
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slaughtr said:

So let me get this straight, since I'm not that bright. Elon Musk wants an Orthopedic Surgeon at the VA in Peoria to email him what he did this week, even though he's on vacation, or the Vietnam Veteran on the schedule for a hip replacement next week gets his surgery cancelled, because the surgeon is fired. And TexAgs posters all think this is a great idea because they hate IRS agents in D.C.?
No.

But, then you knew that.

That's why you concocted the straw man.
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Rebel Yell said:

No Spin Ag said:

My maga buddy in the Border Patrol got the email yesterday and his response was, "I have to report everything I do with the dozens and dozens of vehicles I inspect every day. Why do I need to send Elon an email. Why can't he just see what I do?"

He doesn't realize it's just a way to see who is working and who isn't. Still, he and his buddies in the BP aren't all that thrilled with having to do double work.

I told him to suck it up and that more-than-likely this is just a temporary thing to weed out the slackers.

1.) Patrolled the Mexico border in section 7G
2.) Arrested 16 illegals trying to cross
3.) Attended daily cross functional briefing with US Army MPs,Texas Rangers and ICE.
4.) Helped setup nighttime surveillance equipment.
5.) Attended continuous education training about de-escalation


60 seconds . . . I can write these all day. LOL
Not only did that take 60 seconds but if they ask again next week what you did and your duties haven't changed you simply go to your sent items folder, and resend the same e-mail or copy the text of the e-mail and put it on your desktop. Now what took 60 seconds will take 5 seconds to complete. Easy peasy.
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Here is my take on the lack of sympathy for government workers. It used to be that government workers accepted much lower pay rates than private sector because at retirement there was a great retirement package. Now, government workers make as much or more than private sector workers and still have a great retirement package. We have our 401k. Not complaining just reality.
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Blackhorse83 said:

Here is my take on the lack of sympathy for government workers. It used to be that government workers accepted much lower pay rates than private sector because at retirement there was a great retirement package. Now, government workers make as much or more than private sector workers and still have a great retirement package. We have our 401k. Not complaining just reality.

It's also why 5 of the wealthiest counties in the world are suburbs of D.C. Civil servants should not be mega rich.
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Tom Fox said:

No Spin Ag said:

My maga buddy in the Border Patrol got the email yesterday and his response was, "I have to report everything I do with the dozens and dozens of vehicles I inspect every day. Why do I need to send Elon an email. Why can't he just see what I do?"

He doesn't realize it's just a way to see who is working and who isn't. Still, he and his buddies in the BP aren't all that thrilled with having to do double work.

I told him to suck it up and that more-than-likely this is just a temporary thing to weed out the slackers.
Federal LE is rife with oxygen thieves. I spent over a decade there in two different agencies and was assigned to two others on a task force. The stories I could share would be comical if they weren't so depressing. Federal LE is the opposite of a meritocracy and has been so at least since the early 2000s.


I can share the same but mine come from the mid 90s and why I had to leave service, even resigned the day of the worst travesty.

I also agree with a few this has nothing to do with whats in the body of the email. Even for AI to read, I believe they would have provided a template. I am an idiot at IT but besides getting recipient not valid, can't they also track what servers the emails passed through?
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You didn't get any of it straight. Not that I believe you were sincerely asking.
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FCBlitz said:

I work in the IC and all of my work is SECRET at minimum.
I could not submit a work report even if I had too.

I got a call about this about 9 last night. I am going to drive in to work this morning after breakfast and check emails on JWICS. I SERIOUSLY doubt I will have a email telling to send in a work report for last week that covers CLASSIFIED work.

Personally I think this is nothing more as a counter espionage act to get the chickens in the hen house all riled up because up to now…..all of the people who clearly voted for NOT BIDEN has been pissing and moaning about everything. Everything is followed by "I don't understand", "That's Stupid", or just smirks…..quit. Go home if you can't follow orders.

I will update this post once I go in….



Just as I thought. No email from MUSK. Just a frantic leadership who is acting like they should know about this but really don't.

….just a purposeful triggering event set off by someone to get the sheep to frantically bleep.
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rab79 said:

Tom Fox said:

clw04 said:

Tom Fox said:

clw04 said:

Tom Fox said:

clw04 said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Heaven forbid you have to provide a weekly status report. Public employees never fail to impress.
I provide weekly reports to my boss with details that apply to them - my boss provides reports to their boss - how many of you provide weekly reports to your HR team - I never did that when I worked in industry but maybe things have changed now.




Just add Daddy Elon to the recipient list of the weekly email to your boss.

What agency do you work for? What do you do at the agency?
NASA - Avionics for a Spacecraft.


Perfect! I bet Elon knows someone at SpaceX thatcan see if you are any good at your job.

My former coworkers at HSI told me they are exempt. How are you at catching tonks? All hands on deck.
I'm sure that they do - I meet with them often


In all seriousness, I love NASA and have great respect for what you do. I would exempt NASA from the coming purge because I think they do a great service for all of mankind.

I would rather gut entitlements and increase your funding than pay for deadbeats. Unfortunately, I do not think I am in the majority of voters.

At least for good or bad, Elon will know whether your job is valuable or not. He won't for some random employees at the US Forest Service.


Maybe the space part of NASA, but not all aspects of the agency.
https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/causes/
As someone in the Space part of NASA, we have lots of fat to trim.

Not people per se but stove-piped organizational structures that leave us with a Byzantine labyrinth of redundant working groups, panels, and boards that need a status on or grant approval for damn near everything.
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I would still submit an email even if you're in an agency that's trying to play chicken with Trump.
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lb3 said:

rab79 said:

Tom Fox said:

clw04 said:

Tom Fox said:

clw04 said:

Tom Fox said:

clw04 said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Heaven forbid you have to provide a weekly status report. Public employees never fail to impress.
I provide weekly reports to my boss with details that apply to them - my boss provides reports to their boss - how many of you provide weekly reports to your HR team - I never did that when I worked in industry but maybe things have changed now.




Just add Daddy Elon to the recipient list of the weekly email to your boss.

What agency do you work for? What do you do at the agency?
NASA - Avionics for a Spacecraft.


Perfect! I bet Elon knows someone at SpaceX thatcan see if you are any good at your job.

My former coworkers at HSI told me they are exempt. How are you at catching tonks? All hands on deck.
I'm sure that they do - I meet with them often


In all seriousness, I love NASA and have great respect for what you do. I would exempt NASA from the coming purge because I think they do a great service for all of mankind.

I would rather gut entitlements and increase your funding than pay for deadbeats. Unfortunately, I do not think I am in the majority of voters.

At least for good or bad, Elon will know whether your job is valuable or not. He won't for some random employees at the US Forest Service.


Maybe the space part of NASA, but not all aspects of the agency.
https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/causes/
As someone in the Space part of NASA, we have lots of fat to trim.

Not people per se but stove-piped organizational structures that leave us with a Byzantine labyrinth of redundant working groups, panels, and boards that need a status on or grant approval for damn near everything.
I was at both AIAA AVIATION last August and SciTech in January and I swear they must have just closed the doors and turned out the lights at both Ames and Langley since I think everyone from those two NASA offices were at the conference...

I've worked with NASA on numerous occasions in the past 6.5 years and there are some brilliant people, but I can also see that there are a lot of redundant functions going on...
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Brother Shamus said:

I would still submit an email even if you're in an agency that's trying to play chicken with Trump.
Agreed. An obvious belts and suspenders move.

Nobody in private industry would raise this much hell over something that takes 5-min.

Some percentage of federal people are completely detached from reality. Lol at these people.
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"Good enough for Government work..."

That phrase has never set right w/me

Hopefully this is how that begins to change
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Brother Shamus said:

I would still submit an email even if you're in an agency that's trying to play chicken with Trump.
Agreed. An obvious belts and suspenders move.

Nobody in private industry would raise this much hell over something that takes 5-min.

Some percentage of federal people are completely detached from reality. Lol at these people.


And good riddance imo - f em.
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Tom Fox said:

FCBlitz said:

I work in the IC and all of my work is SECRET at minimum.
I could not submit a work report even if I had too.

I got a call about this about 9 last night. I am going to drive in to work this morning after breakfast and check emails on JWICS. I SERIOUSLY doubt I will have a email telling to send in a work report for last week that covers CLASSIFIED work.

Personally I think this is nothing more as a counter espionage act to get the chickens in the hen house all riled up because up to now…..all of the people who clearly voted for NOT BIDEN has been pissing and moaning about everything. Everything is followed by "I don't understand", "That's Stupid", or just smirks…..quit. Go home if you can't follow orders.

I will update this post once I go in….
If you work in the IC, you work in the one area that I would fire everyone. The IC and many of its current and former employees have been actively engaged in resistance to the President.

After everyone was gone, I would hire back maybe 20% of you because you do perform a critical function. In the current body of IC, the cancer has just spread too far. The only exception I would make is for active duty military members of the IC, but I would have them training their replacements asap.


I am down with that. In fact you when you fired folks around me, including me…..you can then fill those empty billets with military folks because that who did much of this work at the forefront of Obummer's administration. At that time the military billets were pulled and civilians were hired and put in those same jobs.

 
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