Property tax relief for disabled veterans

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A study should be done to analyze benefits already received from disability status at varying levels (%), in addition to other existing veterans benefits, to determine if the full weight or sum of the benefits if %disabled was a 1:1 exemption from property taxes (ex 50% disabled is a 50% exemption) is reasonable.
(This is just a very inarticulate way of saying - how much is reasonable to give.)

That way an honest look at what is being given can be had by the legislature, and the general public.

I'm all for benefits to Disabled Veterans, but at some point society has to determine where a cutoff line exists, and I can't do that with someone's opinion from an article.
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BkYdPitmaster said:

We're in Texas the United States. You never really own your home. You will never stop paying for it until these taxes are gone.
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fc2112 said:

Sure, but sleep apnea because you got fat isn't.
In my case it has nothing to do with getting fat, I was in peak physical shape when I was first diagnosed with sleep apnea. The burn pits shortened a lot of people's lives just like the folks that were working to clean up the WTC site.
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Teslag said:

fc2112 said:

Sure, but sleep apnea because you got fat isn't.


Then make make weight related sleep apnea non compensable
Didn't do a deep dive in the studies but it would be interesting to see the height/weight on those diagnosed with OSA. Combat, irregular sleep cycles and stress are linked to OSA.
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That's what I was trying to lead him to. Most of those with sleep apnea were diagnosed while on active duty in good health otherwise
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First, assessment increases are supposed to be capped at 10% but my country hits me with 20% every year and when I protest it, they say OK we will hook you up and only increase your assessment by 10%. Well no shlt, that is the max you can increase it by law!!! Why do I have to contest it and stop pretending you are doing me a favor.

The rub is, disabled vets don't care what their assessment is,because they don't pay the tax. So they increase their assessment 20% and no protest. But next year, my assessment is based on market value based on that disabled vets non protested assessment from last year.

It's all bullcrap.
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I don't have MD or DO behind my name so can only go off studies I've read. Seems to be a lot of opinions on this coming from people that don't have that either.

I can just say "sorry your girl gets that look in her eye when she sees a man in a uniform."
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Well I watched him dig a water line and run tractor and shovel w neck brace on shortly after "operation".Doesn't seem disabled to me. But hey I'm not a physician
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slammerag said:

Well I watched him dig a water line and run tractor and shovel w neck brace on shortly after "operation".Doesn't seem disabled to me. But hey I'm not a physician
I think you are mistaken on your perception of what qualifies for disability claims for Veterans. When it comes to ability to work, that's a separate rating. What we are being compensated for is the negative impact serving had on our well being. The burn pits caused me to require a CPAP at an early age while I am was in peak physical shape. The burn pits also caused my hypothyroidism / hashimoto disease. So long as I'm on a boat load of medications I can work most of the time. I'm compensated based on the negative impact serving will have on my long term health and shortened life span, not my ability to work
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redcrayon said:

Scoopen Skwert said:

redcrayon said:

Scoopen Skwert said:

Someone explained it better on the other thread.

It isn't truly a disability rating it is more of an injury compensation rating.

I probably didn't do that justice.


Which is why it should have no bearing on your property taxes.
So being a Combat Veteran with service related medical conditions that impact your quality and length of life mean nothing?

Injuries and medical conditions that can be directly attributed to service in a combat zone. Sucking on burn pit fumes for a year. None of these things?
They're getting sizable checks from the VA and can either work, are on disability or have mil retirement. Why shouldn't they pay property tax? Do they use state and local services?


My kids go to private school but I still pay the ISD property tax.
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Some of ya'll have the same opinions of disabled veterans that I have of cyclists on public roads.
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vmiaptetr said:

redcrayon said:

Scoopen Skwert said:

redcrayon said:

Scoopen Skwert said:

Someone explained it better on the other thread.

It isn't truly a disability rating it is more of an injury compensation rating.

I probably didn't do that justice.


Which is why it should have no bearing on your property taxes.
So being a Combat Veteran with service related medical conditions that impact your quality and length of life mean nothing?

Injuries and medical conditions that can be directly attributed to service in a combat zone. Sucking on burn pit fumes for a year. None of these things?
They're getting sizable checks from the VA and can either work, are on disability or have mil retirement. Why shouldn't they pay property tax? Do they use state and local services?


My kids go to private school but I still pay the ISD property tax.
Me, too. What does that have to do with "disabled vets?"
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redcrayon said:

vmiaptetr said:

redcrayon said:

Scoopen Skwert said:

redcrayon said:

Scoopen Skwert said:

Someone explained it better on the other thread.

It isn't truly a disability rating it is more of an injury compensation rating.

I probably didn't do that justice.


Which is why it should have no bearing on your property taxes.
So being a Combat Veteran with service related medical conditions that impact your quality and length of life mean nothing?

Injuries and medical conditions that can be directly attributed to service in a combat zone. Sucking on burn pit fumes for a year. None of these things?
They're getting sizable checks from the VA and can either work, are on disability or have mil retirement. Why shouldn't they pay property tax? Do they use state and local services?


My kids go to private school but I still pay the ISD property tax.
Me, too. What does that have to do with "disabled vets?"


My comment was in regard to your question about "do they use state and local services?" Like you, I don't use a certain service but I still pay the tax. I don't think we should have to, but we do.

Having to do with disabled vets, I think there can be certain tax breaks for certain classifications of people depending on their situation, and I support the disabled vet one. Just like I support farmers getting an ag exemption and homeowners get an exemption. I think your argument based solely on if they use state and local services in not a good one.
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They use state, county and local services. Why shouldn't they pay those taxes?

I don't think that getting a check from the VA is a reason to be tax exempt. The vast majority of these vets are not disabled. They can pay taxes. The compensation for their "disabilities" comes from the fed govt, the entity they volunteered to serve.
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I can only say that we fundamentally disagree on this.
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vmiaptetr said:

I can only say that we fundamentally disagree on this.
Okay. You'd probably really disagree with my opinion that those VA "disability" checks actually harm a lot of vets rather than help them.
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I doubt this even makes it to a vote. Though I don't disagree with it.
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redcrayon said:

vmiaptetr said:

I can only say that we fundamentally disagree on this.
Okay. You'd probably really disagree with my opinion that those VA "disability" checks actually harm a lot of vets rather than help them.


No. I can't speak for the payments on the whole, but I've got some anecdotal evidence of some vets using those checks in not great ways. I have a buddy who is 100% disabled, and he spends his entire check on meth when he's not behind bars. So, I'd say we agree, somewhat, when it comes to that.
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vmiaptetr said:

redcrayon said:

vmiaptetr said:

I can only say that we fundamentally disagree on this.
Okay. You'd probably really disagree with my opinion that those VA "disability" checks actually harm a lot of vets rather than help them.


No. I can't speak for the payments on the whole, but I've got some anecdotal evidence of some vets using those checks in not great ways. I have a buddy who is 100% disabled, and he spends his entire check on meth when he's not behind bars. So, I'd say we agree, somewhat, when it comes to that.
I'd take a wild guess and assume part of his disability is for psychological reasons like PTSD but unfortunately the VA does a **** job when it comes to mental health and suicide
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I agree with taking care of disabled vets, but I think there is fraud in the system. I don't think this is the answer.
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They should pay property taxes like the rest of us.
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vmiaptetr said:

Some of ya'll have the same opinions of disabled veterans that I have of cyclists on public roads.


To be fair. The face of their TexAgs outreach program isn't doing them any favors.
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Yukon Cornelius said:

Should be for everyone
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I don't handle the "thank you for your service" thing very well because it wasn't about me.

My simple reason was I'd rather be an easy target for the ragheads over there so they don't go after my family, friends and nation back here.
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I didn't serve for benefits or discounts at home, but I also didn't shorten my life for free, I and other service connected Vets deserve to be compensated for that sacrifice
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

vmiaptetr said:

Some of ya'll have the same opinions of disabled veterans that I have of cyclists on public roads.


To be fair. The face of their TexAgs outreach program isn't doing them any favors.


Salute the Vaccine Property Tax Collector
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I know at least 10 men getting big $$$$$$ from "MILITARY" disability and it's all bull ***** 100% due to por life choices.
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It's the new warfare check grab. Hell.of a way to get new recruits. All you gotta do is sign up for 4 years like daddy and granddad did then you can sit on your ass and draw a check the rest of your life.
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Ag_SGT said:

I didn't serve for benefits or discounts at home, but I also didn't shorten my life for free, I and other service connected Vets deserve to be compensated for that sacrifice
You are compensated by the VA. Doesn't mean you shouldn't pay property taxes.
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redcrayon said:

Ag_SGT said:

I didn't serve for benefits or discounts at home, but I also didn't shorten my life for free, I and other service connected Vets deserve to be compensated for that sacrifice
You are compensated by the VA. Doesn't mean you shouldn't pay property taxes.
If you've noticed I haven't said a thing about deserving property taxes relief, I specifically said I didn't serve for discounts at home
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Take them down for everyone or none at all. This is just shifting tax burden. It isn't reform at all
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Property taxes are a scam. But if you buy a house they should be in your budget. So if you can't afford it buy what you can instead.
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AggielandPoultry said:

I know at least 10 men getting big $$$$$$ from "MILITARY" disability and it's all bull ***** 100% due to por life choices.


When you went through their medical records what specifically did you have an issue with?
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Ag_SGT said:

redcrayon said:

Ag_SGT said:

I didn't serve for benefits or discounts at home, but I also didn't shorten my life for free, I and other service connected Vets deserve to be compensated for that sacrifice
You are compensated by the VA. Doesn't mean you shouldn't pay property taxes.
If you've noticed I haven't said a thing about deserving property taxes relief, I specifically said I didn't serve for discounts at home
This thread was about property tax exemptions for "disabled" vets. Sorry I missed that you were talking about something else.
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Don't pretend a bunch of the comments have steered away from property taxes to complaining about Veterans disability compensation
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