Why do you think Trump is saying Ukraine started the war?

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Teslag
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So now a single Finnish parliament member throwing a tantrum is your source for "surrender"?

And from your link…

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Aaltola did not provide evidence to support his claims.
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Teslag said:

So now a single Finnish parliament member throwing a tantrum is your source for "surrender"?

And from your link…

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Aaltola did not provide evidence to support his claims.



So you don't have a source for the recent Russian surrender you claimed? Your trolling is usually better than this.
Teslag
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Aaltola did not provide evidence to support his claims.
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Teslag said:

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Aaltola did not provide evidence to support his claims.



"If we don't, the United States will withdraw from Europe," Aaltola claimed. "Trump prioritizes Russia's security concerns now and in the future. Let them own their mess. We have three weeks to grow up."

It's still a surrender. Sorry your team lost.
Teslag
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Aaltola did not provide evidence to support his claims.
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Someone called the 1st deal Trump offering Z to stab himself. Sounds like Trump really put the screws to the green goblin with his 2nd offer. All of Ukrainian fan boy social media is punching air.
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It also includes a mechanism for Ukraine to keep receiving US weapons. Lavrov will be pissed as will Putin. They set out to cut Ukraine off from western influence and now the US will be directly gaining Ukrainian minerals, which comes with US influence, and in turn Ukraine gets more weapons.
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There were thousands of decisions made by both Ukraine and Russia that led to this conflict.

Uke fanboys crying "but Russia invaded" is as silly as Putin fanboys crying "Russia was provoked".

Neither side is clean, both are corrupt.

Trump wants to stop the war and is negotiating to get some of our investment back. That is all this is. And part of that approach is recognizing some responsibility on Ukraine's part.
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Vladmir Putin was well on his way to attaining a puppet quasi-dictatorship in Ukraine similar to what he has in Belarus until he US and west sponsored an overthrow of Ukraine's Russian-installed leader in 2014.
Russia retaliated by invading the eastern part of Ukraine and taking over Crimea and launched a full-scale invasion on 2/24/2022.

I voted for Trump 3 times, but he sometimes says some stupid things.
 
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