Good cop, bad cop. Keep them uncertain and off balance so they want to find security and certainty in a compromise

BassCowboy33 said:

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Aggie Apotheosis said:

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WTF? Just after Hegseth said the opposite earlier in the week?

It would be nice if the U.S. had a coherent foreign policy.

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The article talks about how Hegseth clarified his comments from yesterday to be stronger against Russia

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Hegseth needs to make sure he's on the right page next time he opens his mouth. He's going to lose credibility fast.

nortex97 said:

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Ideally, yes. We will see though.

🇺🇸🇭🇺🇷🇺 Biden screwed up Russia!

Tucker:

From an American perspective, the Biden administration has succeeded in making Russia deeply integrated with China, economically and militarily. This is a disaster for us. But how do you bring Russia back into SWIFT or into cooperation if… pic.twitter.com/uF7XZF4bVa

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) February 15, 2025

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This is truly a historic event. This war will change the world for decades. Even our children will live in an era when Russia will never return to the West as it was.

Viktor Orban:

Unfortunately, I agree with that. Russia remains our neighbor, and that is the problem. The Russians have accepted the fact that Central European countries like Hungary have become members of NATO. Although they have always criticized this, saying that it is unfair, because it was promised that the territories of the former Soviet Union would not join NATO. But we made our move, and the Russians accepted it.

Ukraine was a buffer zone between NATO and Russia. But when we started developing its army and talking about possible NATO membership, the buffer zone turned into a war zone. It is no longer a buffer. That is the problem.

I have always told the West: do not consider this war yours. This is a war between two Slavic peoples - brutal, but brotherly. Russians and Ukrainians. Isolate them, keep them away, but don't make it your war. But that's exactly what you did. The US president came and said, "We're at war." But why? Nobody knows the answer.

From the very beginning, I was sure that war would make Russia stronger. That's a history lesson. World War I, World War II - they always start weaker, but they get stronger. That's a lesson Hungary learned.

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Orban should know by now the 'why.' But I won't get into it here.

The proxy war has grown their military capabilities/investment (spend) tremendously. And fwiw to OP JD Vance rebuked the absurdity of the WSJ lies about what he said:

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US Vice President J.D. Vance said on Friday that The Wall Street Journal misinterpreted his comments about the possibility of sending US troops to Ukraine

"The fact that the WSJ misinterpreted my words is absurd," Vance wrote on H's social media.

"As I have always said: American troops should not be in conflict zones unless our interests and security require it. And this war is only between Russia and Ukraine," Vance added.

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I don't want war with Russia

But saying it's "ideal" for Putin to get off scott free after being responsible for the deaths of millions is a wild take.

ReturnOfTheAg said:

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nortex97 said:

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Ideally, yes. We will see though.

🇺🇸🇭🇺🇷🇺 Biden screwed up Russia!

Tucker:

From an American perspective, the Biden administration has succeeded in making Russia deeply integrated with China, economically and militarily. This is a disaster for us. But how do you bring Russia back into SWIFT or into cooperation if… pic.twitter.com/uF7XZF4bVa

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) February 15, 2025

Quote:

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This is truly a historic event. This war will change the world for decades. Even our children will live in an era when Russia will never return to the West as it was.

Viktor Orban:

Unfortunately, I agree with that. Russia remains our neighbor, and that is the problem. The Russians have accepted the fact that Central European countries like Hungary have become members of NATO. Although they have always criticized this, saying that it is unfair, because it was promised that the territories of the former Soviet Union would not join NATO. But we made our move, and the Russians accepted it.

Ukraine was a buffer zone between NATO and Russia. But when we started developing its army and talking about possible NATO membership, the buffer zone turned into a war zone. It is no longer a buffer. That is the problem.

I have always told the West: do not consider this war yours. This is a war between two Slavic peoples - brutal, but brotherly. Russians and Ukrainians. Isolate them, keep them away, but don't make it your war. But that's exactly what you did. The US president came and said, "We're at war." But why? Nobody knows the answer.

From the very beginning, I was sure that war would make Russia stronger. That's a history lesson. World War I, World War II - they always start weaker, but they get stronger. That's a lesson Hungary learned.

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Orban should know by now the 'why.' But I won't get into it here.

The proxy war has grown their military capabilities/investment (spend) tremendously. And fwiw to OP JD Vance rebuked the absurdity of the WSJ lies about what he said:

Quote:

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US Vice President J.D. Vance said on Friday that The Wall Street Journal misinterpreted his comments about the possibility of sending US troops to Ukraine

"The fact that the WSJ misinterpreted my words is absurd," Vance wrote on H's social media.

"As I have always said: American troops should not be in conflict zones unless our interests and security require it. And this war is only between Russia and Ukraine," Vance added.

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I don't want war with Russia

But saying it's "ideal" for Putin to get off scott free after being responsible for the deaths of millions is a wild take.

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Not sure I'd hang this around Putin's neck. He responded to a threat. How different would it be if Mexico or Canada decided join Russian forces, build Russian military bases, and house Russian nukes? I would expect the same response from America and cite their actions for our reaction.

Don't fall for the "unprovoked" company line the dems spewed to justify their money laundering operation.

Geminiv said:

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CDUB98 said:

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Aggie Apotheosis said:

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WTF? Just after Hegseth said the opposite earlier in the week?

It would be nice if the U.S. had a coherent foreign policy.

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Ever thought it the disconcerting signals could be on purpose?

Nah, probably not as TDS destroys thinking.

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Another gymnast

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Not a gymnast, you twit. Someone who has the capability of speculation without a predetermined ending.

Something other than, "orange man bad," but you wouldn't understand that.

nortex97 said:

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Ideally, yes. We will see though.

🇺🇸🇭🇺🇷🇺 Biden screwed up Russia!

Tucker:

From an American perspective, the Biden administration has succeeded in making Russia deeply integrated with China, economically and militarily. This is a disaster for us. But how do you bring Russia back into SWIFT or into cooperation if… pic.twitter.com/uF7XZF4bVa

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) February 15, 2025

Quote:

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This is truly a historic event. This war will change the world for decades. Even our children will live in an era when Russia will never return to the West as it was.

Viktor Orban:

Unfortunately, I agree with that. Russia remains our neighbor, and that is the problem. The Russians have accepted the fact that Central European countries like Hungary have become members of NATO. Although they have always criticized this, saying that it is unfair, because it was promised that the territories of the former Soviet Union would not join NATO. But we made our move, and the Russians accepted it.

Ukraine was a buffer zone between NATO and Russia. But when we started developing its army and talking about possible NATO membership, the buffer zone turned into a war zone. It is no longer a buffer. That is the problem.

I have always told the West: do not consider this war yours. This is a war between two Slavic peoples - brutal, but brotherly. Russians and Ukrainians. Isolate them, keep them away, but don't make it your war. But that's exactly what you did. The US president came and said, "We're at war." But why? Nobody knows the answer.

From the very beginning, I was sure that war would make Russia stronger. That's a history lesson. World War I, World War II - they always start weaker, but they get stronger. That's a lesson Hungary learned.

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Orban should know by now the 'why.' But I won't get into it here.

The proxy war has grown their military capabilities/investment (spend) tremendously. And fwiw to OP JD Vance rebuked the absurdity of the WSJ lies about what he said:

Quote:

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US Vice President J.D. Vance said on Friday that The Wall Street Journal misinterpreted his comments about the possibility of sending US troops to Ukraine

"The fact that the WSJ misinterpreted my words is absurd," Vance wrote on H's social media.

"As I have always said: American troops should not be in conflict zones unless our interests and security require it. And this war is only between Russia and Ukraine," Vance added.

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Nonsense. The Russians and Chinese have a deep distrust of one another that goes back a long, long time. Remember, they were great buddies under Brezhnev and Mao when it came to Military matters and then grew apart. This is a short term alliance of convenience under the circumstances.

Bazooka Joe said:

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ReturnOfTheAg said:

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nortex97 said:

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Ideally, yes. We will see though.

🇺🇸🇭🇺🇷🇺 Biden screwed up Russia!

Tucker:

From an American perspective, the Biden administration has succeeded in making Russia deeply integrated with China, economically and militarily. This is a disaster for us. But how do you bring Russia back into SWIFT or into cooperation if… pic.twitter.com/uF7XZF4bVa

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) February 15, 2025

Quote:

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This is truly a historic event. This war will change the world for decades. Even our children will live in an era when Russia will never return to the West as it was.

Viktor Orban:

Unfortunately, I agree with that. Russia remains our neighbor, and that is the problem. The Russians have accepted the fact that Central European countries like Hungary have become members of NATO. Although they have always criticized this, saying that it is unfair, because it was promised that the territories of the former Soviet Union would not join NATO. But we made our move, and the Russians accepted it.

Ukraine was a buffer zone between NATO and Russia. But when we started developing its army and talking about possible NATO membership, the buffer zone turned into a war zone. It is no longer a buffer. That is the problem.

I have always told the West: do not consider this war yours. This is a war between two Slavic peoples - brutal, but brotherly. Russians and Ukrainians. Isolate them, keep them away, but don't make it your war. But that's exactly what you did. The US president came and said, "We're at war." But why? Nobody knows the answer.

From the very beginning, I was sure that war would make Russia stronger. That's a history lesson. World War I, World War II - they always start weaker, but they get stronger. That's a lesson Hungary learned.

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Orban should know by now the 'why.' But I won't get into it here.

The proxy war has grown their military capabilities/investment (spend) tremendously. And fwiw to OP JD Vance rebuked the absurdity of the WSJ lies about what he said:

Quote:

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US Vice President J.D. Vance said on Friday that The Wall Street Journal misinterpreted his comments about the possibility of sending US troops to Ukraine

"The fact that the WSJ misinterpreted my words is absurd," Vance wrote on H's social media.

"As I have always said: American troops should not be in conflict zones unless our interests and security require it. And this war is only between Russia and Ukraine," Vance added.

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I don't want war with Russia

But saying it's "ideal" for Putin to get off scott free after being responsible for the deaths of millions is a wild take.

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Not sure I'd hang this around Putin's neck. He responded to a threat. How different would it be if Mexico or Canada decided join Russian forces, build Russian military bases, and house Russian nukes? I would expect the same response from America and cite their actions for our reaction.

Don't fall for the "unprovoked" company line the dems spewed to justify their money laundering operation.

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We would not attempt to take over the entire country of Mexico if they did this, destroying their cities, bombing civilians and causing a few hundred thousand deaths in the process. And if we did it would be wrong of us to do too.

100% of the responsibility for this invasion lies at the feet of one person.

BigFred said:

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So, within a short period of time, the US has;

Destroyed our relationship with our allies Canada, Mexico, and now the UK.

Threaten the ME with a "take over".

Put Tariffs on China.

Change the name of a body of water that the rest of the world doesn't recognize.

Then........pick a fight with Russia.

All while destroying our intelligence agencies in gaining insight to the plans and capabilities of our enemies.

Sounds like a failed Casino owner is running the place.... America is far too arrogant right now.

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Where have people like you been, that you wake up one morning with no self or world awareness.

Pick a fight with Russia?! I swear I could have been watching Russia destroy Ukraine during the Biden (D) Administration for the past 4 years and that we've funded Ukaine's defense to the tune of $1T. Maybe that was all an allusion.

But then i look at world maps before and after the Obama Administration and realize Crimea magically changed from Ukraine's possession to Russia's.

If not for DOGE, we'd never have had the proof that Obama facilitated the Arab Spring with USAID, in which 9 Arab/Muslim countries overthrew their heads-of-state.

The reason Democrats fail to attract anything more than 20-Somethings that don't follow world events, is because Democrats wake up and pretend the events never happened under a Democrat.

It shouldn't be news to anybody that when dealing with America nuclear annihilation is ALWAYS on the table. Any president who takes it off the table for even our closest friends is a fool. American diplomacy should always keep the high ground. There is never a reason to self-hobble.

Aggie Apotheosis said:

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WTF? Just after Hegseth said the opposite earlier in the week?

It would be nice if the U.S. had a coherent foreign policy.

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Being unpredictable is sometimes a positive