Yes. It in no way falls under the purview of the federal government.

States wouldn't even have to get ready. They wouldn't be doing anything they aren't already, except there would be no federal directives to comply with.

All the money in the department of Ed is bureaucracy. All of it.

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I have absolutely no problem with rooting out and eliminating FWA. I welcome it, and this happens to be an area where I can truly appreciate that Trump has the determination and ambition to do what career politicians did not have the political willingness to do.

I do, however, disagree with some of the methods, specifically taking the approach of wholesale elimination of entire departments rather than identifying certain programs to eliminate. My fear is that wholesale elimination of entire departments like DoEd can have really harmful consequences to actual people that may not be outweighed by the savings from eliminating FWA. Whether or not it's worth it is a subjective measure, and I'm glad I'm not the one who has to make that decision.

With that in mind, there is a very large population of Dems who oppose all of it just because it's Trump and they are anti-everything Trump does. I disagree with that approach as well, because there will always be issues where we can - and should - agree on things that ultimately benefit all of us.

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The federal govt doesn't have the power to even HAVE a Dept of Education.

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But it does have a Dept of Education, and it's been around long enough that just saying *POOF* it's gone will have lots of unintended and harmful consequences. There should be a well-designed plan to sunset it that accounts for and reallocates those functions which do serve a valid and valuable purpose in our society. As of yet, I haven't seen anyone in the Trump administration willing to take a more pragmatic approach.

"Burn it all down" might make Trump and his supporters feel good, but it isn't pragmatic.

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1. No. Because if it isn't killed, it won't ever die. Ever. And, like a cancerous tumor, it will in short time become a large overgrown and largely uncontrolled siphon of money.
2. I'd like to see a list of valid and valuable purposes something like the DoE provides to our society.

taxes won't be lowered. not for the middle class

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Here's just one example - Dept of Ed administers federal student aid. Completely eliminating the federal student aid program overnight has an immediate negative impact on more than 13 million students. Let's be generous and say half of them could somehow afford to stay in school without federal aid - That's still 6.5 million people dumped into the workforce in the blink of an eye, which would DOUBLE the rate of unemployment in the US. What will inevitably happen is those people end up on some other form of public assistance when they can't find work. Some of them will turn to crime to get by. It becomes a cascading set of societal problems.

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This is not something I'd add to the list of "valid and valuable things for society" that the federal government does.

In fact, the federal government has absolutely destroyed federal aid by taking over the program and it is a major - probably the single largest - contributing factor to the massive increase in the cost of college tuition.

So no, try again.

The DOE needs to go, and responsibility should be on the states. However to do that you can't just flip a switch - the states need time (and money) to prepare for that responsibility. So there needs to be a plan to make that happen without screwing over the states (or the people) in the short term.

Such a plan would require a transition that will require different short term and long term solutions. First thing though, the states will need more money to get started - this will increase overall costs temporarily and would need to be funded from the fed most likely.

Then as a short term process you transition pieces of responsibility over to the states and with the money you are no longer spending at the fed level you send that back to the states for them to use instead.

Then longer term as you approach 0 responsibility for the DOE, you need to cut fed taxes and the entire DOE budget so that the states can themselves tax their own people to cover the increased costs without having to go to/from the fed. All of this has to be phased correctly to work right.

If Trump starts now I think this can all be done in a 4 year term, after which it would be near impossible for Democrats to reverse. The problem though is having enough votes in Congress such that you can pass legislation quickly. And even though Republicans have control, I don't think they have the votes to really do much. So basically, this will probably never happen and is just a grandiose hypothetical.

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The plan is called Federalism. Return education to the states where it belongs. The federal government has no business being in education. 50 laboratories vastly superior to the huge nest of marxists and their useful idiots that we have now. Kill it and move on.

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Great. We just have to sort out how that happens effectively and efficiently.

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You start by ripping off the bandaid and killing DoE so that there is no safety net mechanism and no excuse to continue a failed program or delay the implementation to the states..

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States wouldn't even have to get ready. They wouldn't be doing anything they aren't already, except there would be no federal directives to comply with.

All the money in the department of Ed is bureaucracy. All of it.

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My son is in special education and I worry about what would happen if Department of Education was eliminated. I agree it should be a states issue, but I don't trust TX to do the right thing. People shouldn't have to move to a different state to get help for their child. That being said, a few years ago we moved within the city so we'd be zoned to better schools. I might be OK. But broadly, it might take a lot of people stepping up to push the state government.

As an Independent (meaning, I think both major Parties are full of arrogant, self-serving idiots who need to be voted out and replaced… TERM LIMITS) I think the backlash against Musk is based on at least three things. One is the 'oh no, we're afraid of change' thinking, a second is not wanting pet projects slashed thinking (and that's now got some red State Congressmen wanting to tap the brakes a bit too) and a third is one I agree with, which is, great, find and get rid of all fraud and waste, but investigate and target it within Agencies instead of immediate across the board slashing of funding which not only halts funding for some good things but can end up adding some waste. Example was the recent report that freezing/ending support for USAID also means not getting about $500M of already collected foodstuffs distributed, resulting in it ending up sitting unused in storage and spoiling.

If you want to argue that good projects just need to find alternate funding, that's fine, but they need to be told with some lead time so it can happen instead of simply yanking the rug out from under them.

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If DOGE continues finding billions, and possibly trillions, of dollars in fwa, which could help lower taxes that ultimately allows your paychecks to be bigger, then why are y'all (your voting party and elected officials), so against Elon Musk. Im seriously having a hard time connecting the dots here.

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As DOGE continues to dig into the nooks and crannies identifying FWA, the whining elected officials are uncomfortable because the nooks and crannies are actually the bottom of the pockets of their 3k suits.

They are increasingly against anything that is good, wholesome, or pro-America. It's like a reflex for them. If the other side is against chopping off the t*ts of mentally unstable 13 yr old girls, they are FOR it. If the other side is against 10 year old scantily clad boys performing lewd dances in front of drag queens and degenerate libs, they are FOR it. If the other side is against literal gay cartoon p0rn books like "Gender Queer" in children's school libraries, they are FOR it.

We could go on and on. The modern democrat is basically both (a) a degenerate and perverted pagan religion, and (b) the world's largest hate group.

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States wouldn't even have to get ready. They wouldn't be doing anything they aren't already, except there would be no federal directives to comply with.

All the money in the department of Ed is bureaucracy. All of it.

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My son is in special education and I worry about what would happen if Department of Education was eliminated.

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States' problem. Not the federal government's job.

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States wouldn't even have to get ready. They wouldn't be doing anything they aren't already, except there would be no federal directives to comply with.

All the money in the department of Ed is bureaucracy. All of it.

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My son is in special education and I worry about what would happen if Department of Education was eliminated.

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States' problem. Not the federal government's job.

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Yeah, I said that. Not saying this shouldn't happen, just saying it's a legitimate concern for some people who are in favor of the scale down, etc.

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Yeah, I said that. Not saying this shouldn't happen, just saying it's a legitimate concern for some people who are in favor of the scale down, etc.

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Take it to your state rep.

Not that I am not sympathetic, but the federal government should have very little to do with our day-to-day lives. It was never supposed to be like this. And their undue involvement has far more negative than positive consequences for Americans.

Yep, I will. My son still has 5 years but that's better than just starting out.

below is a list of everything the DoE has accomplished since its inception and how it has made education better in any state in the union:















that's it. that's the list. the federal government of this republic is not supposed to educate. much of every state's revenue already goes to education. the fed doesn't need to spend 270 billion dollars per year to make sure states are educating their youth. education has only gotten worse across the board in this country for decades.

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States wouldn't even have to get ready. They wouldn't be doing anything they aren't already, except there would be no federal directives to comply with.

All the money in the department of Ed is bureaucracy. All of it.

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My son is in special education and I worry about what would happen if Department of Education was eliminated. I agree it should be a states issue, but I don't trust TX to do the right thing. People shouldn't have to move to a different state to get help for their child. That being said, a few years ago we moved within the city so we'd be zoned to better schools. I might be OK. But broadly, it might take a lot of people stepping up to push the state government.

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Texas is currently one of 17 states that are suing to eliminate Section 504, which protects access to education by students with disabilities. The suit was originally brought over the inclusion of transgender students, but Texas is asking for the ENTIRE thing to be eliminated, so no, you shouldn't trust Texas to do the right thing when it comes to SPED.

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If DOGE continues finding billions, and possibly trillions, of dollars in fwa, which could help lower taxes that ultimately allows your paychecks to be bigger, then why are y'all (your voting party and elected officials), so against Elon Musk. Im seriously having a hard time connecting the dots here.

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Simply,... Elon and DOGE are a walking conflict of interest to the core.... with companies, entrenched in corporate welfare.

Non-independent, unelected...etc. etc. etc. with tons of skin in the game!

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Here's just one example - Dept of Ed administers federal student aid. Completely eliminating the federal student aid program overnight has an immediate negative impact on more than 13 million students. Let's be generous and say half of them could somehow afford to stay in school without federal aid - That's still 6.5 million people dumped into the workforce in the blink of an eye, which would DOUBLE the rate of unemployment in the US. What will inevitably happen is those people end up on some other form of public assistance when they can't find work. Some of them will turn to crime to get by. It becomes a cascading set of societal problems.

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Federal student aid and federally backed loans has been the single biggest contributor to the massive increase in tuition costs which has led to millions of students being perpetually in debt and the development of useless degree programs with no real world applications and the virtual indentured servitude of millions of Americans.

Getting rid of it would create short term pain but long term would fix alot of the problems we are seeing.

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our fine institutions of higher learning saw that gravy train and created curriculum and cost to line their pockets. Each university should be on the hook for 50% or more of the defaulted debt - and the cost of the loans should be based on earning potential of degree

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If DOGE continues finding billions, and possibly trillions, of dollars in fwa, which could help lower taxes that ultimately allows your paychecks to be bigger, then why are y'all (your voting party and elected officials), so against Elon Musk. Im seriously having a hard time connecting the dots here.

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Simply,... Elon and DOGE are a walking conflict of interest to the core.... with companies, entrenched in corporate welfare.

Non-independent, unelected...etc. etc. etc. with tons of skin in the game!

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So one of the arguments we're hanging our hat in is 'unelected' which by most accounts is 99% of people that work in gov't. And that same 99% is also 'non-independent.'

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Here's just one example - Dept of Ed administers federal student aid. Completely eliminating the federal student aid program overnight has an immediate negative impact on more than 13 million students. Let's be generous and say half of them could somehow afford to stay in school without federal aid - That's still 6.5 million people dumped into the workforce in the blink of an eye, which would DOUBLE the rate of unemployment in the US. What will inevitably happen is those people end up on some other form of public assistance when they can't find work. Some of them will turn to crime to get by. It becomes a cascading set of societal problems.

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Except there a millions of open jobs. They could you know get a job.

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There is an air conditioner company in the DFW area advising on radio they will hire you and train you on air conditioner installation & repair.
Seems graduates starting pay is higher than the average pay for college graduates. And the annual pay reaches >$100,000/year more rapidly than for college graduates.
Not sure if true but seems possible.
When I was working, I would take a cigarette break and would talk with a young kid in the maintenance department. His goal was to get certified in HVAC, go to work someplace, he mentioned the Texas Instrument plant then start a business in air conditioner/ heating repair. He left our company as soon as he was certified & I lost track, but would bet he succeeded.

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If DOGE continues finding billions, and possibly trillions, of dollars in fwa, which could help lower taxes that ultimately allows your paychecks to be bigger, then why are y'all (your voting party and elected officials), so against Elon Musk. Im seriously having a hard time connecting the dots here.

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Simply,... Elon and DOGE are a walking conflict of interest to the core.... with companies, entrenched in corporate welfare.

Non-independent, unelected...etc. etc. etc. with tons of skin in the game!

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Elon & DOGE give RECOMMENDATIONS for things that should be gutted or at least questioned. I haven't seen anything on the chopping block that is in competition with any of Musk's businesses. He is not the final authority on what gets cut. He and DOGE are not the ONLY entity that can suggest cuts.

Just admit you hate watching your leftist slush funds drying up and all the corruption getting exposed.

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If DOGE continues finding billions, and possibly trillions, of dollars in fwa, which could help lower taxes that ultimately allows your paychecks to be bigger, then why are y'all (your voting party and elected officials), so against Elon Musk. Im seriously having a hard time connecting the dots here.

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Simply,... Elon and DOGE are a walking conflict of interest to the core.... with companies, entrenched in corporate welfare.

Non-independent, unelected...etc. etc. etc. with tons of skin in the game!

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So one of the arguments we're hanging our hat in is 'unelected' which by most accounts is 99% of people that work in gov't. And that same 99% is also 'non-independent.'

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One of the job criterium of an Inspector General is nonpartisanship. That was replaced by an entity that is heavily partisan now.

So please excuse us....If we DONT believe your fraud findings (nor the inflated values of your findings)..... which most certainly can be directly correlated to Gov Dept's you wanted to decimate in the first place..... IN EFFORTST to centralize or redirect Congress approved funds.

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If DOGE continues finding billions, and possibly trillions, of dollars in fwa, which could help lower taxes that ultimately allows your paychecks to be bigger, then why are y'all (your voting party and elected officials), so against Elon Musk. Im seriously having a hard time connecting the dots here.

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Simply,... Elon and DOGE are a walking conflict of interest to the core.... with companies, entrenched in corporate welfare.

Non-independent, unelected...etc. etc. etc. with tons of skin in the game!

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So one of the arguments we're hanging our hat in is 'unelected' which by most accounts is 99% of people that work in gov't. And that same 99% is also 'non-independent.'

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One of the job criterium of an Inspector General is nonpartisanship. That was replaced by an entity that is heavily partisan now.

So please excuse us....If we DONT believe your fraud findings (nor the inflated values of your findings)..... which most certainly can be directly correlated to Gov Dept's you wanted to decimate in the first place..... IN EFFORTST to centralize or redirect Congress approved funds.

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Lol at you if you actually believe the inspector generals in place have been doing their jobs and are non-partisan. Your love for big, wasteful government is weird.

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If DOGE continues finding billions, and possibly trillions, of dollars in fwa, which could help lower taxes that ultimately allows your paychecks to be bigger, then why are y'all (your voting party and elected officials), so against Elon Musk. Im seriously having a hard time connecting the dots here.

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Simply,... Elon and DOGE are a walking conflict of interest to the core.... with companies, entrenched in corporate welfare.

Non-independent, unelected...etc. etc. etc. with tons of skin in the game!

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But not the corrupt judges who are granting TROs and blocking the executive from running his branch. They're just thoughtful public servants.

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If DOGE continues finding billions, and possibly trillions, of dollars in fwa, which could help lower taxes that ultimately allows your paychecks to be bigger, then why are y'all (your voting party and elected officials), so against Elon Musk. Im seriously having a hard time connecting the dots here.

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Simply,... Elon and DOGE are a walking conflict of interest to the core.... with companies, entrenched in corporate welfare.

Non-independent, unelected...etc. etc. etc. with tons of skin in the game!

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So one of the arguments we're hanging our hat in is 'unelected' which by most accounts is 99% of people that work in gov't. And that same 99% is also 'non-independent.'

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One of the job criterium of an Inspector General is nonpartisanship. That was replaced by an entity that is heavily partisan now.

So please excuse us....If we DONT believe your fraud findings (nor the inflated values of your findings)..... which most certainly can be directly correlated to Gov Dept's you wanted to decimate in the first place..... IN EFFORTST to centralize or redirect Congress approved funds.

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That's right, just lay there and continue to supply power and money to your overlords. You mean nothing to them except the $ and power you supply.



They are milking you dry and you defend them and their fraud.

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I have absolutely no problem with rooting out and eliminating FWA. I welcome it, and this happens to be an area where I can truly appreciate that Trump has the determination and ambition to do what career politicians did not have the political willingness to do.

I do, however, disagree with some of the methods, specifically taking the approach of wholesale elimination of entire departments rather than identifying certain programs to eliminate. My fear is that wholesale elimination of entire departments like DoEd can have really harmful consequences to actual people that may not be outweighed by the savings from eliminating FWA. Whether or not it's worth it is a subjective measure, and I'm glad I'm not the one who has to make that decision.

With that in mind, there is a very large population of Dems who oppose all of it just because it's Trump and they are anti-everything Trump does. I disagree with that approach as well, because there will always be issues where we can - and should - agree on things that ultimately benefit all of us.

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The federal govt doesn't have the power to even HAVE a Dept of Education.

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But it does have a Dept of Education, and it's been around long enough that just saying *POOF* it's gone will have lots of unintended and harmful consequences. There should be a well-designed plan to sunset it that accounts for and reallocates those functions which do serve a valid and valuable purpose in our society. As of yet, I haven't seen anyone in the Trump administration willing to take a more pragmatic approach.

"Burn it all down" might make Trump and his supporters feel good, but it isn't pragmatic.

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You're proposal means it never gets shut down. You have to rip off the bandaid.

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If DOGE continues finding billions, and possibly trillions, of dollars in fwa, which could help lower taxes that ultimately allows your paychecks to be bigger, then why are y'all (your voting party and elected officials), so against Elon Musk. Im seriously having a hard time connecting the dots here.

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Simply,... Elon and DOGE are a walking conflict of interest to the core.... with companies, entrenched in corporate welfare.

Non-independent, unelected...etc. etc. etc. with tons of skin in the game!

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So one of the arguments we're hanging our hat in is 'unelected' which by most accounts is 99% of people that work in gov't. And that same 99% is also 'non-independent.'

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One of the job criterium of an Inspector General is nonpartisanship. That was replaced by an entity that is heavily partisan now.

So please excuse us....If we DONT believe your fraud findings (nor the inflated values of your findings)..... which most certainly can be directly correlated to Gov Dept's you wanted to decimate in the first place..... IN EFFORTST to centralize or redirect Congress approved funds.

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Was Anthony Fauci elected? Did he have an interest in protecting the Wuhan Lab? Why was he preemptively pardoned?

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If DOGE continues finding billions, and possibly trillions, of dollars in fwa, which could help lower taxes that ultimately allows your paychecks to be bigger, then why are y'all (your voting party and elected officials), so against Elon Musk. Im seriously having a hard time connecting the dots here.

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Simply,... Elon and DOGE are a walking conflict of interest to the core.... with companies, entrenched in corporate welfare.

Non-independent, unelected...etc. etc. etc. with tons of skin in the game!

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Elon & DOGE give RECOMMENDATIONS for things that should be gutted or at least questioned. I haven't seen anything on the chopping block that is in competition with any of Musk's businesses. He is not the final authority on what gets cut. He and DOGE are not the ONLY entity that can suggest cuts.

Just admit you hate watching your leftist slush funds drying up and all the corruption getting exposed.

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Elons musk conflict of interest chart with the federal government.




Elon Musk's influence over the federal government is extraordinary, and extraordinarily lucrative.

Mr. Musk's rocket company, SpaceX, effectively dictates NASA's rocket launch schedule. The Defense Department relies on him to get most of its satellites to orbit. His companies were promised $3 billion across nearly 100 different contracts last year with 17 federal agencies.


Oh, I know!,...... Let's put this same guy in charge of cutting wasteful government spending! Brilliant!!!

Elon Musk's Big Business and Conflicts of Interest With the U.S. Government - The New York Times

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If DOGE continues finding billions, and possibly trillions, of dollars in fwa, which could help lower taxes that ultimately allows your paychecks to be bigger, then why are y'all (your voting party and elected officials), so against Elon Musk. Im seriously having a hard time connecting the dots here.

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Simply,... Elon and DOGE are a walking conflict of interest to the core.... with companies, entrenched in corporate welfare.

Non-independent, unelected...etc. etc. etc. with tons of skin in the game!

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Elon & DOGE give RECOMMENDATIONS for things that should be gutted or at least questioned. I haven't seen anything on the chopping block that is in competition with any of Musk's businesses. He is not the final authority on what gets cut. He and DOGE are not the ONLY entity that can suggest cuts.

Just admit you hate watching your leftist slush funds drying up and all the corruption getting exposed.

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Elons musk conflict of interest chart with the federal government.




Elon Musk's influence over the federal government is extraordinary, and extraordinarily lucrative.

Mr. Musk's rocket company, SpaceX, effectively dictates NASA's rocket launch schedule. The Defense Department relies on him to get most of its satellites to orbit. His companies were promised $3 billion across nearly 100 different contracts last year with 17 federal agencies.

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So wait. Now your mad because the guy built his on space program from the ground up and figured out a way to launch rockets significantly cheaper than Uncle Sam.

If Elon created the cure for cancer, liberals would rather die than be healed by 'Nazi' drugs.

Now tell us how much nasa would be spending while producing a fraction of the technology that Spacex has produced


Spacex program gives the country charity

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If DOGE continues finding billions, and possibly trillions, of dollars in fwa, which could help lower taxes that ultimately allows your paychecks to be bigger, then why are y'all (your voting party and elected officials), so against Elon Musk. Im seriously having a hard time connecting the dots here.

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Simply,... Elon and DOGE are a walking conflict of interest to the core.... with companies, entrenched in corporate welfare.

Non-independent, unelected...etc. etc. etc. with tons of skin in the game!

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Elon & DOGE give RECOMMENDATIONS for things that should be gutted or at least questioned. I haven't seen anything on the chopping block that is in competition with any of Musk's businesses. He is not the final authority on what gets cut. He and DOGE are not the ONLY entity that can suggest cuts.

Just admit you hate watching your leftist slush funds drying up and all the corruption getting exposed.

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Elons musk conflict of interest chart with the federal government.




Elon Musk's influence over the federal government is extraordinary, and extraordinarily lucrative.

Mr. Musk's rocket company, SpaceX, effectively dictates NASA's rocket launch schedule. The Defense Department relies on him to get most of its satellites to orbit. His companies were promised $3 billion across nearly 100 different contracts last year with 17 federal agencies.

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So wait. Now your mad because the guy built his on space program from the ground up and figured out a way to launch rockets significantly cheaper than Uncle Sam.

If Elon created the cure for cancer, liberals would rather die than be healed by 'Nazi' drugs.

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What Im saying is....He's not the guy who I want telling me not to ship food ( disbanding USAID) for shipments to poor countries.....yet petitioning the FEDs for more corporate welfare for rockets, and manufacturing tax breaks.

His conflicts of interest are astounding for a role in Gov. such as this!!

We shouldnt be doing either. You only are about Musk. You never speak out against waste and stealing from the makers to give to the takers.

Donald Trump is the one determining who food should be shipped to. The authority was given to the Executive Branch. Donald Trump is the Executive Branch.

You have no say.

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If DOGE continues finding billions, and possibly trillions, of dollars in fwa, which could help lower taxes that ultimately allows your paychecks to be bigger, then why are y'all (your voting party and elected officials), so against Elon Musk. Im seriously having a hard time connecting the dots here.

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Simply,... Elon and DOGE are a walking conflict of interest to the core.... with companies, entrenched in corporate welfare.

Non-independent, unelected...etc. etc. etc. with tons of skin in the game!

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Elon & DOGE give RECOMMENDATIONS for things that should be gutted or at least questioned. I haven't seen anything on the chopping block that is in competition with any of Musk's businesses. He is not the final authority on what gets cut. He and DOGE are not the ONLY entity that can suggest cuts.

Just admit you hate watching your leftist slush funds drying up and all the corruption getting exposed.

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Elons musk conflict of interest chart with the federal government.




Elon Musk's influence over the federal government is extraordinary, and extraordinarily lucrative.

Mr. Musk's rocket company, SpaceX, effectively dictates NASA's rocket launch schedule. The Defense Department relies on him to get most of its satellites to orbit. His companies were promised $3 billion across nearly 100 different contracts last year with 17 federal agencies.

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So wait. Now your mad because the guy built his on space program from the ground up and figured out a way to launch rockets significantly cheaper than Uncle Sam.

If Elon created the cure for cancer, liberals would rather die than be healed by 'Nazi' drugs.

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What Im saying is....He's not the guy who I want telling me not to ship food ( disbanding USAID) for shipments to poor countries.....yet petitioning the FEDs for more corporate welfare for rockets, and manufacturing tax breaks.

His conflicts of interest are astounding for a role in Gov. such as this!!

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Shipping food to poor countries isn't our job. You want to save the third world poor, start a charity or write a check.