This is heading for Trump to make some deal with Putin none of us will like and isn't in our best interest, yet most on here will pretend isn't that bad when it happens.Teslag said:
Putin about to get told how high to jump by Trump
This is heading for Trump to make some deal with Putin none of us will like and isn't in our best interest, yet most on here will pretend isn't that bad when it happens.Teslag said:
Putin about to get told how high to jump by Trump
AgLA06 said:This is heading for Trump to make some deal with Putin none of us will like and isn't in our best interest, yet most on here will pretend isn't that bad when it happens.Teslag said:
Putin about to get told how high to jump by Trump
J. Walter Weatherman said:
Hopefully Putin is actually serious about negotiating and ending the death and destruction from the war he started. Assuming we'll end up with something more or less along the current boundaries but hopefully Trump has a way to stop him from just invading again in a few years if NATO is off the table.
Tom Kazansky 2012 said:J. Walter Weatherman said:
Hopefully Putin is actually serious about negotiating and ending the death and destruction from the war he started. Assuming we'll end up with something more or less along the current boundaries but hopefully Trump has a way to stop him from just invading again in a few years if NATO is off the table.
It's called team up with Russia to make money.
Tom Kazansky 2012 said:J. Walter Weatherman said:
Hopefully Putin is actually serious about negotiating and ending the death and destruction from the war he started. Assuming we'll end up with something more or less along the current boundaries but hopefully Trump has a way to stop him from just invading again in a few years if NATO is off the table.
It's called team up with Russia to make money.
That's the second post suggesting there's a money motivation to ending the carnage. Did a Democrat talking point on this go out or something?docb said:
It's going to be an interesting few months for this war. Putin and Trump don't really care about the senseless loss of life. Their decisions will be made more on $$$.
techno-ag said:That's the second post suggesting there's a money motivation to ending the carnage. Did a Democrat talking point on this go out or something?docb said:
It's going to be an interesting few months for this war. Putin and Trump don't really care about the senseless loss of life. Their decisions will be made more on $$$.
President Donald Trump said former President Joe Biden should've ended the war in Ukraine. Trump spoke to reporters from the Oval Office after phone conversations he had with Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
— The National Desk (@TND) February 13, 2025
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Ruble is soaring tonight, fyi.
A_Gang_Ag_06 said:
Anybody else find it funny that Zelensky was mentioned almost as an afterthought. Like "Oh… and I'm fixing to call Zelensky to let him know the adults are handling it." lol
I was told Russia's economy should be in shambles in free fall by now what happened?nortex97 said:
Yep.President Donald Trump said former President Joe Biden should've ended the war in Ukraine. Trump spoke to reporters from the Oval Office after phone conversations he had with Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
— The National Desk (@TND) February 13, 2025
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Ruble is soaring tonight, fyi.
HoustonAg9999 said:I was told Russia's economy should be in shambles in free fall by now what happened?nortex97 said:
Yep.President Donald Trump said former President Joe Biden should've ended the war in Ukraine. Trump spoke to reporters from the Oval Office after phone conversations he had with Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
— The National Desk (@TND) February 13, 2025
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Ruble is soaring tonight, fyi.
Waffledynamics said:
This board is insufferable about this topic. Y'all are happy to cheer on a murderous psychopathic dictator and throw a country defending itself from an invasion under the bus, further weaken our position as a threat to be taken seriously, and doom millions to a horrible fate all because you think a drop in the bucket of our budget has been stolen.
Hint: DOGE will uncover many more times what we've spent sending weapons and supplies to Ukraine in other graft. At least this is actually a morally righteous fight that can also come with debts of rare earth minerals, even more if we helped Ukraine take back as much of their country as possible.
Waffledynamics said:
This board is insufferable about this topic. Y'all are happy to cheer on a murderous psychopathic dictator and throw a country defending itself from an invasion under the bus, further weaken our position as a threat to be taken seriously, and doom millions to a horrible fate all because you think a drop in the bucket of our budget has been stolen.
Hint: DOGE will uncover many more times what we've spent sending weapons and supplies to Ukraine in other graft. At least this is actually a morally righteous fight that can also come with debts of rare earth minerals, even more if we helped Ukraine take back as much of their country as possible.
You realize Russia won't stop killing Ukrainians just because the war ends, right? And yes, I will make this about Putin. Many on this board have cheered him on, call Zelensky a "pos" and more for having the balls to stand up to an invasion instead of running away like a ***** like Ashraf Ghani, and openly spout nonsense peddled by the likes of TASS and RT. Many on this board seek to punish Ukraine for defending itself.JB99 said:Waffledynamics said:
This board is insufferable about this topic. Y'all are happy to cheer on a murderous psychopathic dictator and throw a country defending itself from an invasion under the bus, further weaken our position as a threat to be taken seriously, and doom millions to a horrible fate all because you think a drop in the bucket of our budget has been stolen.
Hint: DOGE will uncover many more times what we've spent sending weapons and supplies to Ukraine in other graft. At least this is actually a morally righteous fight that can also come with debts of rare earth minerals, even more if we helped Ukraine take back as much of their country as possible.
How is ending a war where millions have already died dooming millions. Extending the war would be dooming millions. And quit making this about Putin. No one is cheering him on. I don't care if he wins or loses, but this war is pointless and we can end it. That should be cheered.
Waffledynamics said:
This board is insufferable about this topic. Y'all are happy to cheer on a murderous psychopathic dictator and throw a country defending itself from an invasion under the bus, further weaken our position as a threat to be taken seriously, and doom millions to a horrible fate all because you think a drop in the bucket of our budget has been stolen.
Hint: DOGE will uncover many more times what we've spent sending weapons and supplies to Ukraine in other graft. At least this is actually a morally righteous fight that can also come with debts of rare earth minerals, even more if we helped Ukraine take back as much of their country as possible.
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Many on this board seek to punish Ukraine for defending itself.
FobTies said:
Zelensky is an actor. He was told not to take the original Russia deal very early in the war, now he will take a worse deal. But after tons of wasted dollars and lives. But politicians and those with a stake in the MIComplex made money.
HoustonAg9999 said:I was told Russia's economy should be in shambles in free fall by now what happened?nortex97 said:
Yep.President Donald Trump said former President Joe Biden should've ended the war in Ukraine. Trump spoke to reporters from the Oval Office after phone conversations he had with Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
— The National Desk (@TND) February 13, 2025
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Ruble is soaring tonight, fyi.
Teslag said:FobTies said:
Zelensky is an actor. He was told not to take the original Russia deal very early in the war, now he will take a worse deal. But after tons of wasted dollars and lives. But politicians and those with a stake in the MIComplex made money.
When he was presented a "deal" by Russia both Kharkiv and Kherson were under Russian control. Both are now Ukrainian, and will remain Ukrainian as will millions of people in those areas. That deal wasn't a deal, it was surrender.
Teslag said:FobTies said:
Zelensky is an actor. He was told not to take the original Russia deal very early in the war, now he will take a worse deal. But after tons of wasted dollars and lives. But politicians and those with a stake in the MIComplex made money.
When he was presented a "deal" by Russia both Kharkiv and Kherson were under Russian control. Both are now Ukrainian, and will remain Ukrainian as will millions of people in those areas. That deal wasn't a deal, it was surrender.
rgag12 said:Teslag said:FobTies said:
Zelensky is an actor. He was told not to take the original Russia deal very early in the war, now he will take a worse deal. But after tons of wasted dollars and lives. But politicians and those with a stake in the MIComplex made money.
When he was presented a "deal" by Russia both Kharkiv and Kherson were under Russian control. Both are now Ukrainian, and will remain Ukrainian as will millions of people in those areas. That deal wasn't a deal, it was surrender.
My god, the revisionist history with you is unbearable. It's insane
FobTies said:Teslag said:FobTies said:
Zelensky is an actor. He was told not to take the original Russia deal very early in the war, now he will take a worse deal. But after tons of wasted dollars and lives. But politicians and those with a stake in the MIComplex made money.
When he was presented a "deal" by Russia both Kharkiv and Kherson were under Russian control. Both are now Ukrainian, and will remain Ukrainian as will millions of people in those areas. That deal wasn't a deal, it was surrender.
You have no idea what Ukraine will give up. They don't have Blinken and Biden buying them time anymore. Russian speaking territory east of the Dnipro is certainly on the table, along with assurances they won't ever put NATO backed troops on Russia's border.
Ukraine will surrender much.
Russia is beaten down, and after years still doesn't have Kiev or even a third of a country they sought to conquer in weeks.Tom Kazansky 2012 said:AgLA06 said:This is heading for Trump to make some deal with Putin none of us will like and isn't in our best interest, yet most on here will pretend isn't that bad when it happens.Teslag said:
Putin about to get told how high to jump by Trump
Yeah the war hawks will hate it because they will be dead ass wrong thinking Russia would be beaten down by Ukraine with our billions.
The rest of us that live on planet earth who have been saying supporting this conflict is dumb will see this for what it is:
as the inevitable end we predicted.