This is heading for Trump to make some deal with Putin none of us will like and isn't in our best interest, yet most on here will pretend isn't that bad when it happens.Teslag said:
Putin about to get told how high to jump by Trump
Trump says Russia / Ukraine negotiations to end war to begin "immediately".
10,439 Views |
151 Replies |
Last: 6 days ago by docb
Or we can keep sending money and propping up Ukraine. There is no good solution here. We can't keep financing this.
Its hard to see something that doesn't involve some kind of partition eventuating.
One thing that can make it good is if starts the complicated process of getting Russia aligned away from China. No effort was made by the globalist Bidenites to do this, quite the opposite. There was no scenario where meddling on their borders was going to lead to anything but instability.
AgLA06 said:This is heading for Trump to make some deal with Putin none of us will like and isn't in our best interest, yet most on here will pretend isn't that bad when it happens.Teslag said:
Putin about to get told how high to jump by Trump
Yeah the war hawks will hate it because they will be dead ass wrong thinking Russia would be beaten down by Ukraine with our billions.
The rest of us that live on planet earth who have been saying supporting this conflict is dumb will see this for what it is:
as the inevitable end we predicted.
Hopefully Putin is actually serious about negotiating and ending the death and destruction from the war he started. Assuming we'll end up with something more or less along the current boundaries but hopefully Trump has a way to stop him from just invading again in a few years if NATO is off the table.
J. Walter Weatherman said:
Hopefully Putin is actually serious about negotiating and ending the death and destruction from the war he started. Assuming we'll end up with something more or less along the current boundaries but hopefully Trump has a way to stop him from just invading again in a few years if NATO is off the table.
It's called team up with Russia to make money.
Tom Kazansky 2012 said:J. Walter Weatherman said:
Hopefully Putin is actually serious about negotiating and ending the death and destruction from the war he started. Assuming we'll end up with something more or less along the current boundaries but hopefully Trump has a way to stop him from just invading again in a few years if NATO is off the table.
It's called team up with Russia to make money.
Yep. That's pretty much what it's looking like.
Tom Kazansky 2012 said:J. Walter Weatherman said:
Hopefully Putin is actually serious about negotiating and ending the death and destruction from the war he started. Assuming we'll end up with something more or less along the current boundaries but hopefully Trump has a way to stop him from just invading again in a few years if NATO is off the table.
It's called team up with Russia to make money.
How exactly will the US make money?
4D chess? Maybe trump is intentionally leaving Z out of the talks so Z starts squawking about who was getting the kickbacks? It's a win-win.
Trump has already discussed things with Ukraine. That's where the idea for the rare earth metals came from.
It's going to be an interesting few months for this war. Putin and Trump don't really care about the senseless loss of life. Their decisions will be made more on $$$.
That's the second post suggesting there's a money motivation to ending the carnage. Did a Democrat talking point on this go out or something?docb said:
It's going to be an interesting few months for this war. Putin and Trump don't really care about the senseless loss of life. Their decisions will be made more on $$$.
Trump will fix it.
techno-ag said:That's the second post suggesting there's a money motivation to ending the carnage. Did a Democrat talking point on this go out or something?docb said:
It's going to be an interesting few months for this war. Putin and Trump don't really care about the senseless loss of life. Their decisions will be made more on $$$.
The war machine and the industries will suffer from this change.
Yep.
Ruble is soaring tonight, fyi.
President Donald Trump said former President Joe Biden should've ended the war in Ukraine. Trump spoke to reporters from the Oval Office after phone conversations he had with Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
— The National Desk (@TND) February 13, 2025
READ MORE:… pic.twitter.com/isSJyj7ZZN
Ruble is soaring tonight, fyi.
Quote:
Ruble is soaring tonight, fyi.
Good for you
A_Gang_Ag_06 said:
Anybody else find it funny that Zelensky was mentioned almost as an afterthought. Like "Oh… and I'm fixing to call Zelensky to let him know the adults are handling it." lol
This was my favorite part as well. Ukraine (Zelensky) will do as he is told, as he has from the beginning.
I was told Russia's economy should be in shambles in free fall by now what happened?nortex97 said:
Yep.President Donald Trump said former President Joe Biden should've ended the war in Ukraine. Trump spoke to reporters from the Oval Office after phone conversations he had with Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
— The National Desk (@TND) February 13, 2025
READ MORE:… pic.twitter.com/isSJyj7ZZN
Ruble is soaring tonight, fyi.
HoustonAg9999 said:I was told Russia's economy should be in shambles in free fall by now what happened?nortex97 said:
Yep.President Donald Trump said former President Joe Biden should've ended the war in Ukraine. Trump spoke to reporters from the Oval Office after phone conversations he had with Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
— The National Desk (@TND) February 13, 2025
READ MORE:… pic.twitter.com/isSJyj7ZZN
Ruble is soaring tonight, fyi.
The uke boys were dead ass wrong about everything. And they'll dance around here and pretend everything happening has gone according to plan.
We got fleeced for this war and got nothing out of it. We might negotiate a mineral grab but this was a stupid conflict that funded the democrat and company grift. That was its only purpose for the US and some idiots cheered it on like it was a sporting event.
Some of us suggested that this giant Ponzi scheme over dead 18 year olds was happening years and years ago and were called conspiracy theorists.
But Putin is a bad guy and we can't let him win. More billions and millions more dead until we can say Putin lost because that's what matters
This board is insufferable about this topic. Y'all are happy to cheer on a murderous psychopathic dictator and throw a country defending itself from an invasion under the bus, further weaken our position as a threat to be taken seriously, and doom millions to a horrible fate all because you think a drop in the bucket of our budget has been stolen.
Hint: DOGE will uncover many more times what we've spent sending weapons and supplies to Ukraine in other graft. At least this is actually a morally righteous fight that can also come with debts of rare earth minerals, even more if we helped Ukraine take back as much of their country as possible.
Hint: DOGE will uncover many more times what we've spent sending weapons and supplies to Ukraine in other graft. At least this is actually a morally righteous fight that can also come with debts of rare earth minerals, even more if we helped Ukraine take back as much of their country as possible.
Waffledynamics said:
This board is insufferable about this topic. Y'all are happy to cheer on a murderous psychopathic dictator and throw a country defending itself from an invasion under the bus, further weaken our position as a threat to be taken seriously, and doom millions to a horrible fate all because you think a drop in the bucket of our budget has been stolen.
Hint: DOGE will uncover many more times what we've spent sending weapons and supplies to Ukraine in other graft. At least this is actually a morally righteous fight that can also come with debts of rare earth minerals, even more if we helped Ukraine take back as much of their country as possible.
Only way to kick Russia out completely is boots on the ground and the USA wont do that, why doesn't the EU do it if Russia is such a threat?
Waffledynamics said:
This board is insufferable about this topic. Y'all are happy to cheer on a murderous psychopathic dictator and throw a country defending itself from an invasion under the bus, further weaken our position as a threat to be taken seriously, and doom millions to a horrible fate all because you think a drop in the bucket of our budget has been stolen.
Hint: DOGE will uncover many more times what we've spent sending weapons and supplies to Ukraine in other graft. At least this is actually a morally righteous fight that can also come with debts of rare earth minerals, even more if we helped Ukraine take back as much of their country as possible.
How is ending a war where millions have already died dooming millions. Extending the war would be dooming millions. And quit making this about Putin. No one is cheering him on. I don't care if he wins or loses, but this war is pointless and we can end it. That should be cheered.
You realize Russia won't stop killing Ukrainians just because the war ends, right? And yes, I will make this about Putin. Many on this board have cheered him on, call Zelensky a "pos" and more for having the balls to stand up to an invasion instead of running away like a ***** like Ashraf Ghani, and openly spout nonsense peddled by the likes of TASS and RT. Many on this board seek to punish Ukraine for defending itself.JB99 said:Waffledynamics said:
This board is insufferable about this topic. Y'all are happy to cheer on a murderous psychopathic dictator and throw a country defending itself from an invasion under the bus, further weaken our position as a threat to be taken seriously, and doom millions to a horrible fate all because you think a drop in the bucket of our budget has been stolen.
Hint: DOGE will uncover many more times what we've spent sending weapons and supplies to Ukraine in other graft. At least this is actually a morally righteous fight that can also come with debts of rare earth minerals, even more if we helped Ukraine take back as much of their country as possible.
How is ending a war where millions have already died dooming millions. Extending the war would be dooming millions. And quit making this about Putin. No one is cheering him on. I don't care if he wins or loses, but this war is pointless and we can end it. That should be cheered.
War ending is not a good thing in and of itself. The terms and conditions of it ending are the most important part. If Ukraine is forced into a bad deal, it accomplishes nothing in anyone's favor but a geopolitical enemy.
Be hilarious if Trump got Putin to sue for peace, but demanded Zelensky step down and demand a full audit of all the Ukranian corruption / misdeeds screwing their own people over.
Pie in the sky, but still fun for me to think about.
Pie in the sky, but still fun for me to think about.
Waffledynamics said:
This board is insufferable about this topic. Y'all are happy to cheer on a murderous psychopathic dictator and throw a country defending itself from an invasion under the bus, further weaken our position as a threat to be taken seriously, and doom millions to a horrible fate all because you think a drop in the bucket of our budget has been stolen.
Hint: DOGE will uncover many more times what we've spent sending weapons and supplies to Ukraine in other graft. At least this is actually a morally righteous fight that can also come with debts of rare earth minerals, even more if we helped Ukraine take back as much of their country as possible.
You sound like a leftist arguing what is morally right in some warped view trying to emotionally blackmail the rest of us that said Biden was stupid and unwise for getting us involved.
More than that, I disagree with you. It isn't moral to enter a war you aren't prepared to win. And we weren't trying to win. We were trying to get ourselves (politicians and special interest groups) paid.
We entered and were only in it to griftand for the record that's always been the US's "interest" in Ukraine. Not fighting Russia. Some of us aren't sheep that can recognize a pattern over and over. I guess some people can't.
It's packaged and sold to willing US idiots as us "helping the oppressed fight the good fight against mean ole Russia"
In reality it's our politicians and theirs getting rich at the expense of some dead young men and our tax dollars/currency value.
You are not morally righteous for supporting theft of our tax dollars and our wealth that spurns on a ridiculous hot conflict that claims innocent lives.
You are not morally righteous for blaming Putin for invading a country he believes is his. Is he a murderous dictator? Sure. Should he be stopped? Yeah. By Europe or Ukraine . Not us. Not one red cent should have gone to this. They aren't a nato country. Don't get involved.
There's nothing just about anything we did. Some fools have just convinced themselves we are the world's superhero piggy bank that has to fund a bunch of corrupt jack holes to fight other jack holes.
Zelensky is an actor. He was told not to take the original Russia deal very early in the war, now he will take a worse deal. But after tons of wasted dollars and lives. But politicians and those with a stake in the MIComplex made money.
Quote:
Many on this board seek to punish Ukraine for defending itself.
FobTies said:
Zelensky is an actor. He was told not to take the original Russia deal very early in the war, now he will take a worse deal. But after tons of wasted dollars and lives. But politicians and those with a stake in the MIComplex made money.
When he was presented a "deal" by Russia both Kharkiv and Kherson were under Russian control. Both are now Ukrainian, and will remain Ukrainian as will millions of people in those areas. That deal wasn't a deal, it was surrender.
HoustonAg9999 said:I was told Russia's economy should be in shambles in free fall by now what happened?nortex97 said:
Yep.President Donald Trump said former President Joe Biden should've ended the war in Ukraine. Trump spoke to reporters from the Oval Office after phone conversations he had with Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
— The National Desk (@TND) February 13, 2025
READ MORE:… pic.twitter.com/isSJyj7ZZN
Ruble is soaring tonight, fyi.
It is.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2013349/russia-gold-reserves-economy-meltdown/amp
Teslag said:FobTies said:
Zelensky is an actor. He was told not to take the original Russia deal very early in the war, now he will take a worse deal. But after tons of wasted dollars and lives. But politicians and those with a stake in the MIComplex made money.
When he was presented a "deal" by Russia both Kharkiv and Kherson were under Russian control. Both are now Ukrainian, and will remain Ukrainian as will millions of people in those areas. That deal wasn't a deal, it was surrender.
You have no idea what Ukraine will give up. They don't have Blinken and Biden buying them time anymore. Russian speaking territory east of the Dnipro is certainly on the table, along with assurances they won't ever put NATO backed troops on Russia's border.
Ukraine will surrender much.
Teslag said:FobTies said:
Zelensky is an actor. He was told not to take the original Russia deal very early in the war, now he will take a worse deal. But after tons of wasted dollars and lives. But politicians and those with a stake in the MIComplex made money.
When he was presented a "deal" by Russia both Kharkiv and Kherson were under Russian control. Both are now Ukrainian, and will remain Ukrainian as will millions of people in those areas. That deal wasn't a deal, it was surrender.
My god, the revisionist history with you is unbearable. It's insane
Zelensky says no election this year either. Only one side in this war has a leader elected by the people.
rgag12 said:Teslag said:FobTies said:
Zelensky is an actor. He was told not to take the original Russia deal very early in the war, now he will take a worse deal. But after tons of wasted dollars and lives. But politicians and those with a stake in the MIComplex made money.
When he was presented a "deal" by Russia both Kharkiv and Kherson were under Russian control. Both are now Ukrainian, and will remain Ukrainian as will millions of people in those areas. That deal wasn't a deal, it was surrender.
My god, the revisionist history with you is unbearable. It's insane
How so? The "deal" was presented in April of 2022. Kherson and Kharkiv were liberated the following September.
FobTies said:Teslag said:FobTies said:
Zelensky is an actor. He was told not to take the original Russia deal very early in the war, now he will take a worse deal. But after tons of wasted dollars and lives. But politicians and those with a stake in the MIComplex made money.
When he was presented a "deal" by Russia both Kharkiv and Kherson were under Russian control. Both are now Ukrainian, and will remain Ukrainian as will millions of people in those areas. That deal wasn't a deal, it was surrender.
You have no idea what Ukraine will give up. They don't have Blinken and Biden buying them time anymore. Russian speaking territory east of the Dnipro is certainly on the table, along with assurances they won't ever put NATO backed troops on Russia's border.
Ukraine will surrender much.
Kherson is west of the Dnipro and both are culturally Ukrainian.
Russia is beaten down, and after years still doesn't have Kiev or even a third of a country they sought to conquer in weeks.Tom Kazansky 2012 said:AgLA06 said:This is heading for Trump to make some deal with Putin none of us will like and isn't in our best interest, yet most on here will pretend isn't that bad when it happens.Teslag said:
Putin about to get told how high to jump by Trump
Yeah the war hawks will hate it because they will be dead ass wrong thinking Russia would be beaten down by Ukraine with our billions.
The rest of us that live on planet earth who have been saying supporting this conflict is dumb will see this for what it is:
as the inevitable end we predicted.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
Featured Stories
See All