JFK, MLK, RFK files declassified.

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That "Kamala Harris brain salad" comment was hilarious and spot on.
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aggiehawg said:

LOL. Capitulation. Like it. Even a jury would get that one.

I forgive you.


Whatever makes you feel better.

Be unburdened by what has been.
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Your perspective and experience in Mexico City is really interesting. I think that what is released will have to do with the CIA operations there more than anything.

I also think that we will probably see some intelligence failures similar to 9/11 where the CIA didnt communicate LHO information to the FBI. I think we also see a lot more ineptitude from them in general where they should have known things and just didn't or didn't follow up on it.

Also, we are gonna find out that you are actually CIA.
I believe you are probably going to be right in that much of what will be, or should be might might we say, will have to do with the letter agencies, namely the CIA, dropping the ball and or making stupid moves. Also just being plain lazy which has always been a criticism of the CIA.

The deal in CDMX is just interesting as I do not believe it could have been as innocuous as it is made out to be, at least the reaction to it for sure.

I pinky promise you, I am not affiliated with any government, on the contrary I shun association with any form of governmental contact, from any country as rarely does any government help an individual or company at the small time scale, and I have always been "small time".


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Even if we may disagree on whether we should wage war on the cartels or not. I really want to take it to em…if anything, because I can no longer go crush Moderno's in Piedras Negras with mi gente.
Oh don't get me wrong if there were a button to evaporate "the cartels" I would be the first one to push it. This whole fiasco in Mexico has robbed me of a portion of my life and cost me a lot of money and effort. It has truly impacted me and my family. Nobody is against this de-evolution of Mex more than me.

What I relate is, or my position is, that that this whole "cartel" thing that the majority of those in the US think exists is a product of politicians, the media, and LEO and it isn't really like it is. The violence, terror, and impunity is, yes, but the organization of it "the big boss/El Jefe" is not.

What has developed is broad confederations of small time pissant gangs with guns, low intelligence, little structure, and little smarts, these are directed by groups of criminals that stay in the shadows and have shifting loyalties and purpose. There is a bunch of them and the members/participants come from all walks of Mexican life.

The military would not have been effective going after the NYC Mafia of the 1950's/60's because it was civilian orchestrated grouping of all kinds of people at all kinds of levels. "The Cartel's" are the same way save for they employ gangs of young, ill educated, drugged up young thugs to be cannon fodder and enforcers. Much of this is show to continue to cower a populace that is easily manipulated and to project strength. This also allows the MexGov/Mex Military to operate with impunity and unquestioned actions over the civilian population. Take out the thugs and the rest of the corrupting and operating structure remains and is scattered all over Mexico, in all walks of life.

The root problem is Mexico's system of government, which facilitates and encourages criminality.
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That's a really interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing it!
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McInnis 03 said:

Per Fox News via Trump EO


Now do Epstein
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They need force the CIA to include the content they withheld from the Warren commission.
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Tailgate88 said:

McInnis 03 said:

Per Fox News via Trump EO


Now do Epstein


You think Don wants that to see the light of day?!? Not a chance.
Some Junkie Cosmonaut
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army01 said:

Tailgate88 said:

McInnis 03 said:

Per Fox News via Trump EO


Now do Epstein


You think Don wants that to see the light of day?!? Not a chance.


Why is that?
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So where are we on this??

I need papers! PDFs! tapes! Videos!
Cmon.
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army01 said:

Tailgate88 said:

McInnis 03 said:

Per Fox News via Trump EO


Now do Epstein


You think Don wants that to see the light of day?!? Not a chance.
Ah, you're one of those.

Yes, I think he wants it to see the light of day. It will expose your heroes.
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I thought there was a 15 day period to get a plan in place, then a 45 target to release after that. So earliest would be late March, at least I read that for the JFK files. The news release of additional files found signals they are working in it, and might actually happen.
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The news that they "found" additional files means they are going to ask for a delay
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It is 15 days to come up with a plan. Then they still have to review the files after that. The 45 day thing was to come up with a plan for RFK/MLK.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/when-will-the-declassified-jfk-files-be-released-publicly.html


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Since the JFK records act was passed in 1992, 320,000 documents have been reviewed and 99 percent of those have been released, per NARA. But the Biden administration left 2,140 documents fully or partially redacted. Another 2,500 docs were withheld for other reasons, like court-ordered seals of restrictions from individuals who donated their papers. Some names of investigators and their processes have been withheld over the years. Burt Griffin, an assistant counsel on the Warren Commission, told Time that those names were withheld because "people were doing illegal things," like wiretapping mafia leaders. "We knew they were doing things that were illegal," he said. "We didn't know the details of how they were doing it."

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On February 10, Axios reported the existence of a tranche of 2,400 records that were never handed over to a board that was tasked with reviewing JFK records for release. The papers were found due to Trump's order to establish a plan and timeline for the release of any remaining records.

Historians, for the most part, do not expect any bombshells from the remaining papers. But authors who study the JFK assassination expect that will not stop those who believe there were multiple gunmen from further speculation.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

army01 said:

Tailgate88 said:

McInnis 03 said:

Per Fox News via Trump EO


Now do Epstein


You think Don wants that to see the light of day?!? Not a chance.
Ah, you're one of those.

Yes, I think he wants it to see the light of day. It will expose your heroes.


I just block them and move on. No sense wasting keystrokes on them. Maybe they will come around in their next life.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

army01 said:

Tailgate88 said:

McInnis 03 said:

Per Fox News via Trump EO


Now do Epstein


You think Don wants that to see the light of day?!? Not a chance.
Ah, you're one of those.

Yes, I think he wants it to see the light of day. It will expose your heroes.
If Reagan is in there, then you are correct. Outside of that, I have no political heroes.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

army01 said:

Tailgate88 said:

McInnis 03 said:

Per Fox News via Trump EO


Now do Epstein


You think Don wants that to see the light of day?!? Not a chance.
Ah, you're one of those.

Yes, I think he wants it to see the light of day. It will expose your heroes.

I think many folks are afraid of that. It can be scary.
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will25u said:



A "task force" is necessary instead of simply releasing the files?

I call bs.
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FobTies
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She said she thinks there were 2 shooters. Pretty bold statement.

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will25u said:





You're never going to convince me that this picture wasn't taken when he was looking down and someone yelled "Hey Kash!"
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FobTies said:

She said she thinks there were 2 shooters. Pretty bold statement.




oh boy mr holier than thou JFK guy aint gonna like this..... gonna be a lot of crow served cold
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Guitarsoup said:

It is 15 days to come up with a plan. Then they still have to review the files after that. The 45 day thing was to come up with a plan for RFK/MLK.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/when-will-the-declassified-jfk-files-be-released-publicly.html


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Since the JFK records act was passed in 1992, 320,000 documents have been reviewed and 99 percent of those have been released, per NARA. But the Biden administration left 2,140 documents fully or partially redacted. Another 2,500 docs were withheld for other reasons, like court-ordered seals of restrictions from individuals who donated their papers. Some names of investigators and their processes have been withheld over the years. Burt Griffin, an assistant counsel on the Warren Commission, told Time that those names were withheld because "people were doing illegal things," like wiretapping mafia leaders. "We knew they were doing things that were illegal," he said. "We didn't know the details of how they were doing it."

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On February 10, Axios reported the existence of a tranche of 2,400 records that were never handed over to a board that was tasked with reviewing JFK records for release. The papers were found due to Trump's order to establish a plan and timeline for the release of any remaining records.

Historians, for the most part, do not expect any bombshells from the remaining papers. But authors who study the JFK assassination expect that will not stop those who believe there were multiple gunmen from further speculation.

Speak for yourself. "Do not expect" -- depends on if honest revelations. Especially RFK's doesn't pass muster. Won't be surprised to learn if something amiss with JFK after all. Next to Biden's the LBJ admin was one of the most self-serving and non-transparent and manipulative we have had. (Not saying Biden admin is worse than LBJ---they are in the same ballpark) Ergo -- capable of something untoward with JFK. Demonstrating that is something else. For the moment, can still accept JFK not as "intel /internal".

MLK just don't know enough about the circumstances and trajectories and any controversy details there. Opining is pointless without facts.

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The problem is the things that we can't release have nothing to do with the questions you guys are asking...the answers you guys want, you pretty much have them.

Kash Patel

I'm Gipper
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FobTies said:

She said she thinks there were 2 shooters. Pretty bold statement.


She had absolutely no clue what she is talking about in that presser.

She wants members of the Warren Commission to be questioned as well as Doctors from Parkland.

Joe Goldstrich is the only doctor left alive. He was the neurosurgery fellow that did the tracheostomy and said that Kennedy could not have been shot from the front, but the wound in the neck was very smooth.
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MookieBlaylock said:

FobTies said:

She said she thinks there were 2 shooters. Pretty bold statement.




oh boy mr holier than thou JFK guy aint gonna like this..... gonna be a lot of crow served cold
She is a good speaker about the issues. But wow- -- she does think two shooters --- and that the early investigation was `faulty'. Of course, it should be remembered the later House Committee did conclude more than one possible and it may have been less "too close to the moment" and done a better job. Hard to say.

She also said 9/11 --- so there are things going into there too? --- wonder if behind scenes reason how Iraq was selected for war will be part of it.
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Guitarsoup said:

FobTies said:

She said she thinks there were 2 shooters. Pretty bold statement.


She had absolutely no clue what she is talking about in that presser.

She wants members of the Warren Commission to be questioned as well as Doctors from Parkland.

Joe Goldstrich is the only doctor left alive. He was the neurosurgery fellow that did the tracheostomy and said that Kennedy could not have been shot from the front, but the wound in the neck was very smooth.
Glad I wasn't the only one to notice that. The last member of the Warren Commission, Gerald R. Ford, died in 2006. All she did was look stupid, something several of these pretty face MAGA Congresswomen do on a regular basis.

And her saying that she thinks there are two shooters is simply her opinion, nothing more, nothing less.
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titan said:

Guitarsoup said:

It is 15 days to come up with a plan. Then they still have to review the files after that. The 45 day thing was to come up with a plan for RFK/MLK.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/when-will-the-declassified-jfk-files-be-released-publicly.html


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Since the JFK records act was passed in 1992, 320,000 documents have been reviewed and 99 percent of those have been released, per NARA. But the Biden administration left 2,140 documents fully or partially redacted. Another 2,500 docs were withheld for other reasons, like court-ordered seals of restrictions from individuals who donated their papers. Some names of investigators and their processes have been withheld over the years. Burt Griffin, an assistant counsel on the Warren Commission, told Time that those names were withheld because "people were doing illegal things," like wiretapping mafia leaders. "We knew they were doing things that were illegal," he said. "We didn't know the details of how they were doing it."

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On February 10, Axios reported the existence of a tranche of 2,400 records that were never handed over to a board that was tasked with reviewing JFK records for release. The papers were found due to Trump's order to establish a plan and timeline for the release of any remaining records.

Historians, for the most part, do not expect any bombshells from the remaining papers. But authors who study the JFK assassination expect that will not stop those who believe there were multiple gunmen from further speculation.

Speak for yourself. "Do not expect" -- depends on if honest revelations. Especially RFK's doesn't pass muster. Won't be surprised to learn if something amiss with JFK after all. Next to Biden's the LBJ admin was one of the most self-serving and non-transparent and manipulative we have had. (Not saying Biden admin is worse than LBJ---they are in the same ballpark) Ergo -- capable of something untoward with JFK. Demonstrating that is something else. For the moment, can still accept JFK not as "intel /internal".

MLK just don't know enough about the circumstances and trajectories and any controversy details there. Opining is pointless without facts.


Speak for myself? Ok tough guy. I literally just pulled relevant quotes from an article and I even put it in quotes to make it easier for you to understand that it was quotes from the article and put the link to the article with it.
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titan said:

MookieBlaylock said:

FobTies said:

She said she thinks there were 2 shooters. Pretty bold statement.




oh boy mr holier than thou JFK guy aint gonna like this..... gonna be a lot of crow served cold
She is a good speaker about the issues. But wow- -- she does think two shooters --- and that the early investigation was `faulty'. Of course, it should be remembered the later House Committee did conclude more than one possible and it may have been less "too close to the moment" and done a better job. Hard to say.

She also said 9/11 --- so there are things going into there too? --- wonder if behind scenes reason how Iraq was selected for war will be part of it.
But it is important that the House Select Committee On Assassinations based that two shooter conclusion entirely on the dictabelt recording, which was later proven to be a faulty conclusion. It has been studied many times since including by the National Institute of Science and their conclusions were wrong. That dictabelt was the ONLY evidence they found of more than one shooter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_assassination_Dictabelt_recording
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She wants members of the Warren Commission to be questioned as well as Doctors from Parkland.
Perhaps wrongly could this means some of the living of the other investigations she kept lumping together including the recent UAP . Did she really says question the JFK participants? I will have to finish listening to it. I jumped out about 2/3rd in.
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Guitarsoup said:

titan said:

Guitarsoup said:

It is 15 days to come up with a plan. Then they still have to review the files after that. The 45 day thing was to come up with a plan for RFK/MLK.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/when-will-the-declassified-jfk-files-be-released-publicly.html


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Since the JFK records act was passed in 1992, 320,000 documents have been reviewed and 99 percent of those have been released, per NARA. But the Biden administration left 2,140 documents fully or partially redacted. Another 2,500 docs were withheld for other reasons, like court-ordered seals of restrictions from individuals who donated their papers. Some names of investigators and their processes have been withheld over the years. Burt Griffin, an assistant counsel on the Warren Commission, told Time that those names were withheld because "people were doing illegal things," like wiretapping mafia leaders. "We knew they were doing things that were illegal," he said. "We didn't know the details of how they were doing it."

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On February 10, Axios reported the existence of a tranche of 2,400 records that were never handed over to a board that was tasked with reviewing JFK records for release. The papers were found due to Trump's order to establish a plan and timeline for the release of any remaining records.

Historians, for the most part, do not expect any bombshells from the remaining papers. But authors who study the JFK assassination expect that will not stop those who believe there were multiple gunmen from further speculation.

Speak for yourself. "Do not expect" -- depends on if honest revelations. Especially RFK's doesn't pass muster. Won't be surprised to learn if something amiss with JFK after all. Next to Biden's the LBJ admin was one of the most self-serving and non-transparent and manipulative we have had. (Not saying Biden admin is worse than LBJ---they are in the same ballpark) Ergo -- capable of something untoward with JFK. Demonstrating that is something else. For the moment, can still accept JFK not as "intel /internal".

MLK just don't know enough about the circumstances and trajectories and any controversy details there. Opining is pointless without facts.


Speak for myself? Ok tough guy. I literally just pulled relevant quotes from an article and I even put it in quotes to make it easier for you to understand that it was quotes from the article and put the link to the article with it.
Whoah. I was addressing that person in the quote.
 
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