Cook voted for it

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Charpie said:

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How though? And only 23 Republicans voted against it

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Here's the short version.

1) Required that every single Vice Chair position be filled by Democrats, and allocated thousands of dollars to be awarded to these Vice Chairs. Functionally, the new rules makes Vice Chairs co-chairmen of committees.

2) Created 12 new "permanent standing sub-committees" which could also be chaired by Democrats, which the speaker will be allowed to refer legislation to.

In effect, instead of having the Dems control 8 committees where they could set the agenda and the Republicans the rest, we traded that away for joint control of every committee where they Chair and Vice Chairs have co-equal power to run the committees.

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Yep. That's what I am reading too.

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TEXAS HOUSE: The story of the week is how Texas Democrats voted to ban Democrats from serving as chairs in the House. Why would every Democrat (save one) vote to prevent members of their own party from running committees? Simple, the deal they cut to help Dustin Burrows win the Speakership gave them complete control of the legislative agenda of the House.

RINO Speaker Burrows allowed his allies to vote for the so-called 'Ban on Democrat Chairs' by increasing the power of Vice Chairs and banning Republicans from serving as Vice Chairs. He also gave Democrats the chairmanships of Subcommittees. Finally, he used taxpayer dollars to pay off the Democrats by giving Vice Chairs $4,000 a month (they've never been paid in the state's history).

So as you get text messages from your Republican House Rep bragging about how they voted to 'Ban Democrat Chairs' remind them that they vote to give Democrats control of the legislative agenda of Texas.

The one possible bright spot is the fact that there are 25 Republican House members who claim they will block all legislation (it takes 25 to block) until this situation is rectified. Sadly, I am skeptical as to whether they'll have the intestinal fortitude to challenge Burrows rein of terror.

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So, every single Dem voted against Dem chairs, so that they could empower themselves via vice-chairs. Clever ****s, those jerks are.

TEXAS HOUSE: The story of the week is how Texas Democrats voted to ban Democrats from serving as chairs in the House. Why would every Democrat (save one) vote to prevent members of their own party from running committees? Simple, the deal they cut to help Dustin Burrows win the… pic.twitter.com/9R5B2ODgAI

— @amuse (@amuse) January 24, 2025

The Texas House remains just a complete disaster. No defense for these people.

Need a lot to clear out. I've reached out to Dallas GOP and I'll be working on Angie Button. It has to change. This is ridiculous.

The Texas legislature is a freaking miracle. We are one of the most conservative states and vote so for decades. And yet somehow a minority dem party maintains power because we have moron Republican legislators like my own Jeff Leach, who needs to be primaried.

nortex97 said:

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1836er said:

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Charpie said:

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How though? And only 23 Republicans voted against it

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Here's the short version.

1) Required that every single Vice Chair position be filled by Democrats, and allocated thousands of dollars to be awarded to these Vice Chairs. Functionally, the new rules makes Vice Chairs co-chairmen of committees.

2) Created 12 new "permanent standing sub-committees" which could also be chaired by Democrats, which the speaker will be allowed to refer legislation to.

In effect, instead of having the Dems control 8 committees where they could set the agenda and the Republicans the rest, we traded that away for joint control of every committee where they Chair and Vice Chairs have co-equal power to run the committees.

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Yep. That's what I am reading too.

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TEXAS HOUSE: The story of the week is how Texas Democrats voted to ban Democrats from serving as chairs in the House. Why would every Democrat (save one) vote to prevent members of their own party from running committees? Simple, the deal they cut to help Dustin Burrows win the Speakership gave them complete control of the legislative agenda of the House.

RINO Speaker Burrows allowed his allies to vote for the so-called 'Ban on Democrat Chairs' by increasing the power of Vice Chairs and banning Republicans from serving as Vice Chairs. He also gave Democrats the chairmanships of Subcommittees. Finally, he used taxpayer dollars to pay off the Democrats by giving Vice Chairs $4,000 a month (they've never been paid in the state's history).

So as you get text messages from your Republican House Rep bragging about how they voted to 'Ban Democrat Chairs' remind them that they vote to give Democrats control of the legislative agenda of Texas.

The one possible bright spot is the fact that there are 25 Republican House members who claim they will block all legislation (it takes 25 to block) until this situation is rectified. Sadly, I am skeptical as to whether they'll have the intestinal fortitude to challenge Burrows rein of terror.

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So, every single Dem voted against Dem chairs, so that they could empower themselves via vice-chairs. Clever ****s, those jerks are.

TEXAS HOUSE: The story of the week is how Texas Democrats voted to ban Democrats from serving as chairs in the House. Why would every Democrat (save one) vote to prevent members of their own party from running committees? Simple, the deal they cut to help Dustin Burrows win the… pic.twitter.com/9R5B2ODgAI

— @amuse (@amuse) January 24, 2025

The Texas House remains just a complete disaster. No defense for these people.

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Dems have always been more devious than Republicans.

On top of voting to empower democrats our good and faithful republican reps also voted to require facemasks for committee meetings and floor sessions. That lunacy alone should tell anyone with a lick of common sense that the inmates are running the asylum that is the Texas HOR

Rule 4, Sec. 8A

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The Texas legislature is a freaking miracle. We are one of the most conservative states and vote so for decades. And yet somehow a minority dem party maintains power because we have moron Republican legislators like my own Jeff Leach, who needs to be primaried.

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And lacy hull who will be primaried as well. I'm not even that angry at dems, my contempt is wholly for the "R"s masquerading around like they're principled true conservatives when all they really care about is their power in the legislature and getting invited to all the donor & lobbyist parties.

I am eagerly looking forward to finding out who plans to run against Stan Gerdes so I can donate to them and work for them.

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I am eagerly looking forward to finding out who plans to run against Stan Gerdes so I can donate to them and work for them.

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Everyone needs to tell the Republican State Party to **** off! My rep is one of the good guys, but I'll likely be finding a Conservative elsewhere to back in the next primary. What a bunch of Rino ***holes! And they can take their Dem stooges with them!

The vice chairs still have to run everything through the main chairs, no?

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The vice chairs still have to run everything through the main chairs, no?

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Looks like they gave the vice chairs more power

More power than the actual chairs?

RINO Speaker Burrows allowed his allies to vote for the so-called 'Ban on Democrat Chairs' by increasing the power of Vice Chairs and banning Republicans from serving as Vice Chairs. He also gave Democrats the chairmanships of Subcommittees. Finally, he used taxpayer dollars to pay off the Democrats by giving Vice Chairs $4,000 a month (they've never been paid in the state's history).



I dont understand the inner workings of this machine, so you will have to verify

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More power than the actual chairs?

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The same.

Who is defending? You're projecting. I'm asking questions.

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This pisses me off so badly. Burrows and the rest of the republicans that hatched that plan are major pieces of ****. It's unforgivable.

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Someone needs to get them on record, do we have any good reporters to confront them?

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More power than the actual chairs?

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The same.

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Meaning things like they can place a hold on any legislation under consideration by the committee. So things like school choice can be held up in committee by the vice chair of the education committee placing a hold on it without it ever making it to the floor.

I provided a list of votes for HR 4. If I understand this correct, Yeas were for this democratic chair nonsense. Go find your legislator and let them know how you feel. Mine is Ashby....grrrrrrrr.

REASON FOR VOTE

Representative Lowe submitted the following reason for vote to be printed in the journal: I am disgusted that the process of fair debate was eliminated in an effort to concede power to the minority party. This is not how any legislative body should operate, and I firmly reject the Democrat Empowerment Act of 2025.

HR 4 was adopted by (Record 10): 116 Yeas, 23 Nays, 1 Present, not voting.

Yeas Alders; Allen; Ancha; Ashby; Barry; Bell, C.; Bell, K.; Bernal; Bhojani; Bonnen; Bowers; Bryant; Buckley; Bucy; Button; Campos; Canales; Capriglione; Cole; Collier; Cook; Cortez; Craddick; Cunningham; Curry; Darby; Davis, A.; Dean; DeAyala; Dyson; Fairly; Flores; Frank; Gmez; Garcia, J.; Garcia, L.; Garcia Hernandez; Gates; Gerdes; Geren; Gervin-Hawkins; Gonzlez, J.; Gonzlez, M.; Goodwin; Guillen; Harless; Harris; Hefner; Hernandez; Hickland; Hinojosa; Holt; Howard; Hull; Hunter; Johnson; Jones, J.; Jones, V.; King; Kitzman; Lalani; Lambert; Landgraf; Leach; Leo Wilson; Longoria; 156 89th LEGISLATURE REGULAR SESSION Lopez, J.; Lujan; Manuel; Martinez; McQueeney; Metcalf; Meyer; Meza; Moody; Morales, C.; Morales, E.; Morales Shaw; Muñoz; Noble; Oliverson; Orr; Patterson; Paul; Perez, M.; Perez, V.; Phelan; Plesa; Raymond; Reynolds; Romero; Rose; Rosenthal; Schofield; Shaheen; Simmons; Slawson; Smithee; Spiller; Swanson; Talarico; Tepper; Thompson; Toth; Troxclair; Turner; VanDeaver; Vasut; Villalobos; Vo; Walle; Ward Johnson; Wharton; Wilson; Wu; Zwiener.

Nays Bumgarner; Cain; Dorazio; Dutton; Harris Davila; Harrison; Hayes; Hopper; Isaac; Little; Louderback; Lowe; Lozano; Luther; Money; Olcott; Pierson; Richardson; Schatzline; Schoolcraft; Shofner; Tinderholt; Virdell.

Present, not voting Mr. Speaker(C). Absent, Excused Davis, Y.; Guerra; Kerwin; Lopez, R.; Martinez Fischer; Ordaz.

Absent LaHood; McLaughlin; Morgan; Rodrguez Ramos

Texas Legistlature Online: HR4

HR4 - PDF

Burrows is also paying Vice-chairs $4000/month. Never before in the history of the state has this been done.

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Burrows is also paying Vice-chairs $4000/month. Never before in the history of the state has this been done.

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It was a a bribe. It's so ****ing obvious. Really disgusting. Glad my new rep voted against it.

As did mine.

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Official statement from Republican Party of Texas.

Official Statement from Chairman Abraham George @abrahamgeorge pic.twitter.com/34MjR88gye

— Texas GOP (@TexasGOP) January 23, 2025

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So, Mr Chairman, when are the censures coming?

Bueller...?

Bueller...?

The vote for HR4 was a vote to give even more power to Democrats on committees and even chair permanent subcommittees. It could be interpreted as following the "Letter of the" Legislative Priority to Ban Democrat Chairs.

The vote against HR4 was the better vote and would follow the "Spirit of the" Legislative Priority to Ban Democrat Chairs in that it opposed giving Democrats more power on the committees.

The County Executive Committees(CEC) are the ones voting on censures and should be knowledgeable enough to determine the intent in conjunction with the Speaker vote.

Todd Hunter was supposedly behind the Democrat empowering rule change.
Dusty Burros refused to recognize Tinderholt's call to delay the vote on the 250 page document sent out at 4AM that morning.
Jared Patterson was instead recognized to "call the question" which cut off any debate or amendments.

They will ultimately be judged by how much conservative legislation is passed and the the quality(not watered down).. Keep an eye on the legislation that the Senate passes vs. the House and the pace of assigning committees and voting on bills.

We have a Republican Senate but the House is run by the Jackass Burrocrat Party.
It could be a long 2 years.

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Who is defending? You're projecting. I'm asking questions.

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He asked you a question about the nature of your question, which you ignored? Why don't you answer it?

I did answer it. I didn't defend anyone.

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I did answer it. I didn't defend anyone.

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Why do you constantly defend reps defying their constituents and flat-out lying? Do Texans not deserve to be represented by their representatives? I realize you have ties to the House, but how is this defensible? They have lied and lied and lied to us.

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These are the questions Ellis Wyatt asked of you (based upon your looong history on this site of passive aggressive behavior that many are onto). When called out, you plead ignorance/innocence and slink away, until he next time. It's good to see others calling attention to it. You're entitled to your opinion/attitude. Just own them.

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The Texas GOP is flaunting their anti-conservative desire for power over people and she's choosing to be obtuse over the subject. Good luck righting that ship .

And you just come out of the woodwork to make personal attacks for your first posts on this thread. Pot meet kettle. Ellis first post is like asking "when did you stop beating your wife". Most folks raising hell about the rules only know what the Dunn/Wilks/MQS folks who want to control our state put out as talking points. They've already bought Patrick and Paxton and Abbott. Glad to see some vestige of resistance to a complete takeover by them. If you want empower Texans, or whatever their most recent name is calling all the shots that's your prerogative

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1836er said:

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Official statement from Republican Party of Texas.

Official Statement from Chairman Abraham George @abrahamgeorge pic.twitter.com/34MjR88gye

— Texas GOP (@TexasGOP) January 23, 2025

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So, Mr Chairman, when are the censures coming?

Bueller...?

Bueller...?

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Pretty ballsy for these traitors to openly defy the will of the majority of the voters in a state with a proud FAFO persona. I get that we're no longer the men of action that our forefathers were… but its like they're openly searching for one man of conviction and opportunity in a pool of 10M…