RINO Dustin Burrows wins TX House Speaker

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Hey Frisco Ags. Your boy voted with the Democrats.





Jared Patterson is one of the most hard right Republicans in the TX House. His voting record in the 88th placed him 15 of 150 on the most conservative chart.

He's also the top LT for the current regime and would've lost a large swathe of legislative power with Cook as the Speaker. He's arguably second or third most influential member in the House with Burrows as Speaker
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So when school choice does not happen we will revisit this and will you still defend Patterson's Democrat vote? An no mistake about it, that is exactly what this is because the democrats do not align with Republicans for free.



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How many of you voted for Lacey Hull? I would have if in my district.

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https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/state/2025/01/15/dustin-burrows-texas-legislature-2025-house-speaker-how-each-member-voted/77723850007/
above is who voted for who.
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Stan Gerdes just lost my vote and his primary opponent next year will have my vote and my financial support.
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CrackerJackAg said:


Go listen to the podcast with Ken Paxton after his charges were dropped, and they lifted the gag order on him being able to publicly speak

I think it was on Tucker

He explains all of it there

Edit:
Hi, Ken!


I love that he's calling Phelan "Drunk Dade." Still mind-blowing that Drunk Dade has never apologized for his extreme intoxication on the floor of the House.
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IndividualFreedom said:

How many of you voted for Lacey Hull? I would have if in my district.

- Never Again, do not forget.

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https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/state/2025/01/15/dustin-burrows-texas-legislature-2025-house-speaker-how-each-member-voted/77723850007/
above is who voted for who.

Voted against her in the primary. She should have a much better primary challenger this go round.
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Here is a your voting guide for the next house primary election. I see a few reps near me that voted for burrows... not mine, he is a freshman and voted for the people.

I'll be sure to donate to their challengers.

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aggiese72 said:

My representative who represents Fayette County, Stan Kitzman '88 and former BQ, voted for Burrows. Too bad!!

I've known Stan and Cecil Bell for years. Have been big supporters of theirs. I'm very surprised by their votes for Burrows.

They need to be primaried.
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The Texas GOP needs to nut up and expel them. Plain and simple. The county GOPs also need to censure them under rule 44 of the Texas GOP rule book.

This **** pisses me off more than the democrats in DC. Damned treasonous *******s.
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You can expel them, censure, do whatever you want to them, but there's no way to stop them from filing in a Republican primary and running again.
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So, when do the censures actually happen? You'd think the RPoT would've at least had a statement ready to go the moment the vote was finalized, but so far not a peep.
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HTownAg98 said:

You can expel them, censure, do whatever you want to them, but there's no way to stop them from filing in a Republican primary and running again.
A candidate wishing to file with a State or County Chairman for a position on a Republican Primary ballot shall include the following statement on his or her application: "I swear or affirm, under penalty of perjury, that I have not been censured under Rule No. 44 of the Republican Party of Texas by the SREC, or a state convention in the preceding twenty-four (24) months prior to this application." A State or County Chairman shall declare any application without this statement as incomplete and refuse to accept said application, and follow the prescribed process to notify the candidate for a chance to cure the defect, when applicable. If no timely correction is made, the applicable chairman shall reject the application.

https://texasgop.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/RPT-General-Rules-As-Amended-2024-05-24.pdf
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And that's also illegal. If they meet the requirements as outlined in the state election code, the party chair shall include them on a primary ballot. Period. It's up to the voters to decide if that candidate best represents the ideals of the party. If someone challenges this, it will be overturned.
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Jeff Barry, from Pearland, as expected....a rino.
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HTownAg98 said:

And that's also illegal. If they meet the requirements as outlined in the state election code, the party chair shall include them on a primary ballot. Period. It's up to the voters to decide if that candidate best represents the ideals of the party. If someone challenges this, it will be overturned.


It is not illegal and it won't be overturned. You should crack open the US constitution sometime, specifically the 1st amendment.
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Logos Stick said:

HTownAg98 said:

And that's also illegal. If they meet the requirements as outlined in the state election code, the party chair shall include them on a primary ballot. Period. It's up to the voters to decide if that candidate best represents the ideals of the party. If someone challenges this, it will be overturned.


It is not illegal and it won't be overturned. You should crack open the US constitution sometime, specifically the 1st amendment.

You should look at SCoTx precedent that says otherwise.
https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11003288982219520028&hl=en&as_sdt=6&as_vis=1&oi=scholarr
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A request made under the provisions of Article 13.12 for a place as a candidate on a party primary ballot imports a present good faith intention of affiliating with the party. Past or present words or conduct may open that intention to doubt and question. But party officers and Executive Committees may not decide the issue against the candidate and so deciding refuse to place his name on the party primary ballot. This Court so held in Love v. Wilcox, 119 Tex. 256, 28 S.W.2d 515, 525, 70 A.L.R. 1484. We there said that "The power to pass on the sincerity of the candidate's pledge and to indorse or condemn his past party record is to be exercised by the party voters." Further, we quoted with approval from an opinion of the Attorney General as follows: "If proper application is made the committee should place the name of the candidate on the ballot and the members of the party the voters themselves would be the best judges of his fidelity to the party and make that decision at the polls."

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Need to clean house of the RINOs. Abbott, Patrick, Paxton would be a good start.
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txwxman said:

Need to clean house of the RINOs. Abbott, Patrick, Paxton would be a good start.
Ummm...sure.

We get it. Your folks got their man in Burrows.
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HTownAg98 said:

Logos Stick said:

HTownAg98 said:

And that's also illegal. If they meet the requirements as outlined in the state election code, the party chair shall include them on a primary ballot. Period. It's up to the voters to decide if that candidate best represents the ideals of the party. If someone challenges this, it will be overturned.


It is not illegal and it won't be overturned. You should crack open the US constitution sometime, specifically the 1st amendment.

You should look at SCoTx precedent that says otherwise.
https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11003288982219520028&hl=en&as_sdt=6&as_vis=1&oi=scholarr
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A request made under the provisions of Article 13.12 for a place as a candidate on a party primary ballot imports a present good faith intention of affiliating with the party. Past or present words or conduct may open that intention to doubt and question. But party officers and Executive Committees may not decide the issue against the candidate and so deciding refuse to place his name on the party primary ballot. This Court so held in Love v. Wilcox, 119 Tex. 256, 28 S.W.2d 515, 525, 70 A.L.R. 1484. We there said that "The power to pass on the sincerity of the candidate's pledge and to indorse or condemn his past party record is to be exercised by the party voters." Further, we quoted with approval from an opinion of the Attorney General as follows: "If proper application is made the committee should place the name of the candidate on the ballot and the members of the party the voters themselves would be the best judges of his fidelity to the party and make that decision at the polls."



You're wrong. That specifically has to do with meeting all the requirements as set out by the party and the state, but the party rejecting it based on their opinion about whether he met the party's requirement. Its not a rejection of the requirement, its a rejection of the completely subjective assessment of that requirement 's fulfillment by the party. Your incorrect reading is that as long as a candidate meets the state requirements, he can't be denied access. That is so absurd that I cant believe you are arguing it. The party has the right, as long as it doesn't violate the rights of the individual, to set their own criteria for appearing as a party candidate. The requirement that they not have been censured by the party is in no, way, shape or form a violation of their individual rights and not addressed by the case you posted. That criteria is based on an observable fact.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

txwxman said:

Need to clean house of the RINOs. Abbott, Patrick, Paxton would be a good start.
Ummm...sure.

We get it. Your folks got their man in Burrows.

Here we go. The age old F16 argument of which conservative is a real conservative. Never gets old. You better toe the tea party line, or you get labeled RINO, leftist, Kamala voter.

I'll save you a few keystrokes….yes the username checks out.
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The System said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

txwxman said:

Need to clean house of the RINOs. Abbott, Patrick, Paxton would be a good start.
Ummm...sure.

We get it. Your folks got their man in Burrows.

Here we go. The age old F16 argument of which conservative is a real conservative. Never gets old. You better toe the tea party line, or you get labeled RINO, leftist, Kamala voter.

I'll save you a few keystrokes….yes the username checks out.
Dude.. if a person gets appointed speaker by more democrat votes than republican, then they are NOT a conservative.

Nobody is buying your BS.
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coconutED said:

So, when do the censures actually happen? You'd think the RPoT would've at least had a statement ready to go the moment the vote was finalized, but so far not a peep.


What exactly does a censure actually accomplish? Do you think it will actually impact a primary election? Or is it purely for show? I know Dade got censured and it didn't really impact his re-election.
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aTmAg said:

The System said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

txwxman said:

Need to clean house of the RINOs. Abbott, Patrick, Paxton would be a good start.
Ummm...sure.

We get it. Your folks got their man in Burrows.

Here we go. The age old F16 argument of which conservative is a real conservative. Never gets old. You better toe the tea party line, or you get labeled RINO, leftist, Kamala voter.

I'll save you a few keystrokes….yes the username checks out.
Dude.. if a person gets appointed speaker by more democrat votes than republican, then they are NOT a conservative.

Nobody is buying your BS.

So is it just the SoH that's the antifa scum, or is it every GOP rep that voted for him?
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The System said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

txwxman said:

Need to clean house of the RINOs. Abbott, Patrick, Paxton would be a good start.
Ummm...sure.

We get it. Your folks got their man in Burrows.

Here we go. The age old F16 argument of which conservative is a real conservative. Never gets old. You better toe the tea party line, or you get labeled RINO, leftist, Kamala voter.

I'll save you a few keystrokes….yes the username checks out.
Seems pretty straightforward to me really. The guy who broke the rules he helped write for how republicans were supposed to vote for speaker and who got the majority of his votes from democrats is less conservative than the guy who followed the rules and who received the majority of his votes from republicans. There is absolutely no question he made deals with democrats to receive their support like that, and we won't know what those deals were until major republican priorities (like school choice) suddenly "run into procedural hurdles" or "die in committee due to the lack of a floor vote", etc. When those things happen, we will find out what parts of the republican party platform Dustin Burrows bargained away in return for his own grasp on the levers of power.

There is a time and place for "bipartisanship" and "reaching across the aisle to get things done". And that time is when we as conservatives collectively get something in return for what we gave away. In this case, what Texans who voted for conservative governance are receiving in return for giving away major parts of our agenda is a big fat zero. What Dustin Burrows got was a continuation of the Dennis Bonnen/Dade Phelan power cabal holding the levers of power and deciding which pieces of legislation get the opportunity to see the light of day.
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The System said:

aTmAg said:

The System said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

txwxman said:

Need to clean house of the RINOs. Abbott, Patrick, Paxton would be a good start.
Ummm...sure.

We get it. Your folks got their man in Burrows.

Here we go. The age old F16 argument of which conservative is a real conservative. Never gets old. You better toe the tea party line, or you get labeled RINO, leftist, Kamala voter.

I'll save you a few keystrokes….yes the username checks out.
Dude.. if a person gets appointed speaker by more democrat votes than republican, then they are NOT a conservative.

Nobody is buying your BS.

So is it just the SoH that's the antifa scum, or is it every GOP rep that voted for him?
Every GOP person who voted for him is a scumbag and should be primaried. Does that clear it up?
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txags92 said:

The System said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

txwxman said:

Need to clean house of the RINOs. Abbott, Patrick, Paxton would be a good start.
Ummm...sure.

We get it. Your folks got their man in Burrows.

Here we go. The age old F16 argument of which conservative is a real conservative. Never gets old. You better toe the tea party line, or you get labeled RINO, leftist, Kamala voter.

I'll save you a few keystrokes….yes the username checks out.
Seems pretty straightforward to me really. The guy who broke the rules he helped write for how republicans were supposed to vote for speaker and who got the majority of his votes from democrats is less conservative than the guy who followed the rules and who received the majority of his votes from republicans. There is absolutely no question he made deals with democrats to receive their support like that, and we won't know what those deals were until major republican priorities (like school choice) suddenly "run into procedural hurdles" or "die in committee due to the lack of a floor vote", etc. When those things happen, we will find out what parts of the republican party platform Dustin Burrows bargained away in return for his own grasp on the levers of power.

There is a time and place for "bipartisanship" and "reaching across the aisle to get things done". And that time is when we as conservatives collectively get something in return for what we gave away. In this case, what Texans who voted for conservative governance are receiving in return for giving away major parts of our agenda is a big fat zero. What Dustin Burrows got was a continuation of the Dennis Bonnen/Dade Phelan power cabal holding the levers of power and deciding which pieces of legislation get the opportunity to see the light of day.

Should we maybe wait and actually see who is appointed as committee chairs? Or what legislation makes it out of committee? Does their prior legislative history and voting record mean anything?
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Oh good - looks like someone is back from a ban to clutter the thread again.
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aTmAg said:

The System said:

aTmAg said:

The System said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

txwxman said:

Need to clean house of the RINOs. Abbott, Patrick, Paxton would be a good start.
Ummm...sure.

We get it. Your folks got their man in Burrows.

Here we go. The age old F16 argument of which conservative is a real conservative. Never gets old. You better toe the tea party line, or you get labeled RINO, leftist, Kamala voter.

I'll save you a few keystrokes….yes the username checks out.
Dude.. if a person gets appointed speaker by more democrat votes than republican, then they are NOT a conservative.

Nobody is buying your BS.

So is it just the SoH that's the antifa scum, or is it every GOP rep that voted for him?
Every GOP person who voted for him is a scumbag and should be primaried. Does that clear it up?

If I threw a rock into a big group of politicians, I'd hit a scumbag. It's pretty much a prerequisite for the position.
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The System said:

txags92 said:

The System said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

txwxman said:

Need to clean house of the RINOs. Abbott, Patrick, Paxton would be a good start.
Ummm...sure.

We get it. Your folks got their man in Burrows.

Here we go. The age old F16 argument of which conservative is a real conservative. Never gets old. You better toe the tea party line, or you get labeled RINO, leftist, Kamala voter.

I'll save you a few keystrokes….yes the username checks out.
Seems pretty straightforward to me really. The guy who broke the rules he helped write for how republicans were supposed to vote for speaker and who got the majority of his votes from democrats is less conservative than the guy who followed the rules and who received the majority of his votes from republicans. There is absolutely no question he made deals with democrats to receive their support like that, and we won't know what those deals were until major republican priorities (like school choice) suddenly "run into procedural hurdles" or "die in committee due to the lack of a floor vote", etc. When those things happen, we will find out what parts of the republican party platform Dustin Burrows bargained away in return for his own grasp on the levers of power.

There is a time and place for "bipartisanship" and "reaching across the aisle to get things done". And that time is when we as conservatives collectively get something in return for what we gave away. In this case, what Texans who voted for conservative governance are receiving in return for giving away major parts of our agenda is a big fat zero. What Dustin Burrows got was a continuation of the Dennis Bonnen/Dade Phelan power cabal holding the levers of power and deciding which pieces of legislation get the opportunity to see the light of day.

Should we maybe wait and actually see who is appointed as committee chairs? Or what legislation makes it out of committee? Does their prior legislative history and voting record mean anything?
We already know who will be appointed to the key committee chairs...the loyal little sycophants who banded together with the democrats to vote for Burrows. The democrats will play pretend at being upset when they don't get to chair any committees, but Burrow will make sure that whatever things he agreed to with them (no school choice, no bans on public funded employee lobbying, etc.) don't make it to the floor for a vote. Or that they contain poison pills that will keep them being acceptable to the senate and will hamstring the negotiations over the differences so he can run out the clock on the session. We don't need to wait to see what he is going to do. He is going to do exactly what Dennis Bonnen and Dade Phelan did before him, because that is where his power comes from.
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The System said:

aTmAg said:

The System said:

aTmAg said:

The System said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

txwxman said:

Need to clean house of the RINOs. Abbott, Patrick, Paxton would be a good start.
Ummm...sure.

We get it. Your folks got their man in Burrows.

Here we go. The age old F16 argument of which conservative is a real conservative. Never gets old. You better toe the tea party line, or you get labeled RINO, leftist, Kamala voter.

I'll save you a few keystrokes….yes the username checks out.
Dude.. if a person gets appointed speaker by more democrat votes than republican, then they are NOT a conservative.

Nobody is buying your BS.

So is it just the SoH that's the antifa scum, or is it every GOP rep that voted for him?
Every GOP person who voted for him is a scumbag and should be primaried. Does that clear it up?

If I threw a rock into a big group of politicians, I'd hit a scumbag. It's pretty much a prerequisite for the position.
But at least the non-RINOs would actually be conservative and give a rats ass about the state as much as their own "careers".
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Voting history means almost nothing, as the the outcome of every meaningful vote that is allowed to be taken is already known by the time it reaches the floor.

All that really matters is the rules, who chairs the committees, and who is on the committees.

In fact, for many of these "Republicans" who always end up siding with the Democrats' choice for speaker (Straus, Bonnen, Phelan, Burrows), touting their voting history is one of the main tricks they use to disguise from their own voters the fact that they're the ones who are actually getting in the way of enacting the Republican agenda.

They can say, "See... look how conservative I am... I voted the right way on all the bills," drawing attention away from the very fact that it was those same "conservative" legislators who conspired with the Democrats to ensure that major parts of the conservative agenda never got to the floor in the first place (or where "watered down" to appease the Democrats/establishment when they did get to the floor for a vote, or had "poison pills" inserted into them).
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aTmAg said:

The System said:

aTmAg said:

The System said:

aTmAg said:

The System said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

txwxman said:

Need to clean house of the RINOs. Abbott, Patrick, Paxton would be a good start.
Ummm...sure.

We get it. Your folks got their man in Burrows.

Here we go. The age old F16 argument of which conservative is a real conservative. Never gets old. You better toe the tea party line, or you get labeled RINO, leftist, Kamala voter.

I'll save you a few keystrokes….yes the username checks out.
Dude.. if a person gets appointed speaker by more democrat votes than republican, then they are NOT a conservative.

Nobody is buying your BS.

So is it just the SoH that's the antifa scum, or is it every GOP rep that voted for him?
Every GOP person who voted for him is a scumbag and should be primaried. Does that clear it up?

If I threw a rock into a big group of politicians, I'd hit a scumbag. It's pretty much a prerequisite for the position.
But at least the non-RINOs would actually be conservative and give a rats ass about the state as much as their own "careers".

Their job is to represent the constituents of their District. It's not to give Texags F16 their wish list.
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1836er said:

Voting history means almost nothing, as the the outcome of every meaningful vote that is allowed to be taken is already known by the time it reaches the floor.

All that really matters is the rules, who chairs the committees, and who is on the committees.

In fact, for many of these "Republicans" who always end up siding with the Democrats' choice for speaker (Straus, Bonnen, Phelan, Burrows), touting their voting history is one of the main tricks they use to disguise from their own voters the fact that they're the ones who are actually getting in the way of enacting the Republican agenda.

They can say, "See... look how conservative I am... I voted the right way on all the bills," drawing attention away from the very fact that it was those same "conservative" legislators who conspired with the Democrats to ensure that major parts of the conservative agenda never got to the floor in the first place (or where "watered down" to appease the Democrats/establishment when they did get to the floor for a vote, or had "poison pills" inserted into them).
I'm trying to leave this maddening topic alone but so much this. Thx.
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The System said:

aTmAg said:

The System said:

aTmAg said:

The System said:

aTmAg said:

The System said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

txwxman said:

Need to clean house of the RINOs. Abbott, Patrick, Paxton would be a good start.
Ummm...sure.

We get it. Your folks got their man in Burrows.

Here we go. The age old F16 argument of which conservative is a real conservative. Never gets old. You better toe the tea party line, or you get labeled RINO, leftist, Kamala voter.

I'll save you a few keystrokes….yes the username checks out.
Dude.. if a person gets appointed speaker by more democrat votes than republican, then they are NOT a conservative.

Nobody is buying your BS.

So is it just the SoH that's the antifa scum, or is it every GOP rep that voted for him?
Every GOP person who voted for him is a scumbag and should be primaried. Does that clear it up?

If I threw a rock into a big group of politicians, I'd hit a scumbag. It's pretty much a prerequisite for the position.
But at least the non-RINOs would actually be conservative and give a rats ass about the state as much as their own "careers".

Their job is to represent the constituents of their District. It's not to give Texags F16 their wish list.
They LIED to their constituents when they joined the Republican party, vowed to support the winner of the GOP caucus, and then refused to do so when their man didn't win.

That is not serving their district.
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The System said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

txwxman said:

Need to clean house of the RINOs. Abbott, Patrick, Paxton would be a good start.
Ummm...sure.

We get it. Your folks got their man in Burrows.

Here we go. The age old F16 argument of which conservative is a real conservative. Never gets old. You better toe the tea party line, or you get labeled RINO, leftist, Kamala voter.

I'll save you a few keystrokes….yes the username checks out.


The poster he was responding to is literally a liberal.
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aTmAg said:

The System said:

aTmAg said:

The System said:

aTmAg said:

The System said:

aTmAg said:

The System said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

txwxman said:

Need to clean house of the RINOs. Abbott, Patrick, Paxton would be a good start.
Ummm...sure.

We get it. Your folks got their man in Burrows.

Here we go. The age old F16 argument of which conservative is a real conservative. Never gets old. You better toe the tea party line, or you get labeled RINO, leftist, Kamala voter.

I'll save you a few keystrokes….yes the username checks out.
Dude.. if a person gets appointed speaker by more democrat votes than republican, then they are NOT a conservative.

Nobody is buying your BS.

So is it just the SoH that's the antifa scum, or is it every GOP rep that voted for him?
Every GOP person who voted for him is a scumbag and should be primaried. Does that clear it up?

If I threw a rock into a big group of politicians, I'd hit a scumbag. It's pretty much a prerequisite for the position.
But at least the non-RINOs would actually be conservative and give a rats ass about the state as much as their own "careers".

Their job is to represent the constituents of their District. It's not to give Texags F16 their wish list.
They LIED to their constituents when they joined the Republican party, vowed to support the winner of the GOP caucus, and then refused to do so when their man didn't win.

That is not serving their district.
 
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