Friendly Fire Incident Yemen

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With all the junk the houthis have been slinging into the Red Sea this is not surprising.
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Though very unfortunate, it isn't entirely negative in that it means they are now rather alert and erring on the side of firing and a USS Cole moment is less likely.
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Pilots survived.
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The image you posted left off the important part

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According to U.S. Central Command; a Friendly-Fire Incident occurred earlier tonight over the Red Sea, with a U.S. Navy F/A-18F "Super Hornet" from the USS Harry S. Truman (CVN-75) being Accidentally Shot-Down by the Ticonderoga-Class Guided-Missile Cruiser, USS Gettysburg (CG-64).

Both Pilots were able to Safely Eject over the Water, and have since been Rescued; with one of the Pilots suffering Minor Injuries.
TexAgBolter
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Sorry, not an image, the X imbed cut off that part.
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TexAgBolter said:

Sorry, not an image, the X imbed cut off that part.
I realize that's how X does inbeds on TexAgs.

Probably better to copy the image and post that, save us the trouble of clicking over to X
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SanDiegoAg12 said:

Pilots survived.
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Friendly fire, isn't your friend. Know first hand. Thankful the crew have been recovered safely. I'll be on lookout for the investigation report when it comes out.

Hard to think these things can still happen but also really shows the growing complexity of our ever changing battlespace and the increasing speed at which it moves. Human error still definitely a part of the chain here though for sure somewhere.
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TexAgBolter said:



With all the junk the houthis have been slinging into the Red Sea this is not surprising.



Ah yeah. It is surprising. Someone on the shop effed up bigly. Just glad they didnt a couple of American pilots.
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FTAG 2000 said:


Ah yeah. It is surprising. Someone on the shop effed up bigly. Just glad they didnt a couple of American pilots.

Does the gun crew get to paint an F-18 onto their turret?
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Really really hope it's equipment malfunction and not some idiot in CIC

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some idiot in CIC
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Sea Speed said:

Really really hope it's equipment malfunction and not some idiot in CIC




I know someone who worked extensively on the Aegis system and he's been dead a long, long time.

Time for an upgrade?
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Most likely CIA letting the new administration know the power and manipulation they have.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

SanDiegoAg12 said:

Pilots survived.


This one, too

Yukon Cornelius
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We shot several of our f18s down early Iraq war. If I'm not mistaken two of the pilots were captured and rescued with Jessica.

Story goes bad code identifiers. Pilots and patriot operator reading from different code book pages.
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Chop this one up to a DEI hire.

Surprised it hasn't happened sooner.
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This is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules.
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So the gun crew's radar mistook our F-18 for one of the Houthi air force's many modern fighter jets?
FTAG 2000
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4 said:

So the gun crew's radar mistook our F-18 for one of the Houthi air force's many modern fighter jets?


And five people in chain of command okayed weapons release. Five people who's careers just ended
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Many mistakes were made at Gettysburg in the 19th century too.
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CanyonAg77 said:

FTAG 2000 said:


Ah yeah. It is surprising. Someone on the shop effed up bigly. Just glad they didnt a couple of American pilots.

Does the gun crew get to paint an F-18 onto their turret?
Did the gun crew think the Houthi's had planes???
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CanyonAg77 said:

TexAgBolter said:

Sorry, not an image, the X imbed cut off that part.
I realize that's how X does inbeds on TexAgs.

Probably better to copy the image and post that, save us the trouble of clicking over to X


This is why I use Vine which has seamless integration with TexAgs.
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Chop this one up to a DEI hire.
That would be "chalk" and as much as I hate DEI (having been canned thanks to it) let's wait until we have more information to make that conclusion.
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Story time.
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So the gun crew's radar mistook our F-18 for one of the Houthi air force's many modern fighter jets?
. That's not how it works. Radars simply show an object or in layman's terms a blip giving range and altitude of the object. There are other means to correlate a blip to an aircraft, ship, or submarine. These include IFF transponder (which was most likely off during combat operations) and an Electronic Warfare radar signature from the onboard radar of the F/A-18.

So the EW's saw the radar on the Super Hornet long before the Aegis Radar detected the "blip" of the airframe. It is up to the EW's to call the correlation of radar to platform. That correlation can be friend or foe. Then it is up to the Tactical Action officer to order shootdown if foe and imposing a threat. So someone screwed up and made a bad call.
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No such thing as friendly fire.
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These include IFF transponder (which was most likely off during combat operations)


Uh, the whole point of IFF is to be on during combat operations
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Is the 2 seater hornet a trainer, or do they have a role in theater?
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Yeah, Mode 5 IFF should have been in play and is very much low observable and secure, especially against relatively unsophisticated adversaries in that region.
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flakrat said:

Is the 2 seater hornet a trainer, or do they have a role in theater?


Navy uses about half and half E's and F's. E's are single seat, F's are two seats. Also EA-18G's which have two
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Obligatory.

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Wonder which US squadrons are flying the Saab JAS 39 Gripen?

MFP saw some Swedish fighters during a exercise in Sweden,she was impressed.
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CanyonAg77 said:

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Wonder which US squadrons are flying the Saab JAS 39 Gripen?

MFP saw some Swedish fighters during an exercise in Sweden,she was impressed.



Looks like a Eurofighter. Gripen is single engine.

Oops, after a closer look it's a Rafale
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