Chip Roy was a DeSantis guy too.

The very unpopular “Congressman” from Texas, Chip Roy, is getting in the way, as usual, of having yet another Great Republican Victory - All for the sake of some cheap publicity for himself. Republican obstructionists have to be done away with. The Democrats are using them, and…

— Donald J. Trump Posts From His Truth Social (@TrumpDailyPosts) December 19, 2024

Trumps pettiness is the worst. But this is just him trying to push chip closer to being a trumpster than he is.

nortex97 said:

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The usual TDS and Democrats 'worried' Trump looks/sounds like a liberal is unsurprising.

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Yeah, we knew they'd show up. It's all they have left.

I'm not sure trumps debt ceiling complain is especially democrat.

Iirc, Republicans yelled about it as well, since it serves almost no purpose except to bring about chaos every so often. It's clear neither dems nor Republicans care much about exceeding any particular dent limit.

I love Roy and think he'd be a great guy to primary Cornyn, but this time, Trump is correct. If Roy refuses to vote for an ACTUAL date-changing clean CR plus suspension of the debt limit, then Roy is grasping defeat from the jaws of victory.

The debt limit REALLY needs to be killed. The Uniparty uses a fear of breach to jam through all kinds of bull***** No one's actually afraid of a government shutdown, but the whole world fears the US breaching it's debt limit.

nortex97 said:

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The usual TDS and Democrats 'worried' Trump looks/sounds like a liberal is unsurprising.

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Believe the word is concerned moderates

Yay 4 years of this after they ignored 12 years of the disaster that is Democrats

Who?mikejones! said:

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I'm not sure trumps debt ceiling complain is especially democrat.

Iirc, Republicans yelled about it as well, since it serves almost no purpose except to bring about chaos every so often. It's clear neither dems nor Republicans care much about exceeding any particular dent limit.

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The debt ceiling was the only leverage Rs had to stem Dem spending. Now we want to get rid of it? Unlimited credit card for government.

President-elect Trump is a mad king. You just have to hope that the king's madness is a net positive for you in the end. The sum total of benefits to conservatives in the federal judiciary in his first term and what will be his second term will be a generational transformation to the federal judiciary in favor of conservatives. Additionally Pam Bondi is like a 5/10 for AG but compare that to Keith Ellison who would be a -10000000000000/10. Kamala had promised Keith Ellison AG behind doors.

They clearly didn't use the leverage to reduce any debt.

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Who?mikejones! said:

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I'm not sure trumps debt ceiling complain is especially democrat.

Iirc, Republicans yelled about it as well, since it serves almost no purpose except to bring about chaos every so often. It's clear neither dems nor Republicans care much about exceeding any particular dent limit.

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The debt ceiling was the only leverage Rs had to stem Dem spending. Now we want to get rid of it? Unlimited credit card for government.

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You're ignoring that Trump is now for it... that makes it conservative.

Typical kind of bad Trump

Who?mikejones! said:

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They clearly didn't use the leverage to reduce any debt.

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John Boehner did. Only period there were actual spending cuts. Then they ran him off.

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nortex97 said:

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The usual TDS and Democrats 'worried' Trump looks/sounds like a liberal is unsurprising.

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Believe the word is concerned moderates

Yay 4 years of this after they ignored 12 years of the disaster that is Democrats

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Oh there are conservatives out there who also suffer from TDS. Never on TA though.

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Who?mikejones! said:

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They clearly didn't use the leverage to reduce any debt.

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John Boehner did. Only period there were actual spending cuts. Then they ran him off.

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The Rs used it last time to get an agreement from the Dems to reduce spending by 1%. Johnson then flinched once it got to the point of implementing the cuts because he's owned by defense contractors.

Also, those cuts you are talking about ended because the Rs and Ds made a deal.

I see the typical Orange Man Bad posters are in full form.

Drahknor03 said:

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I love Roy and think he'd be a great guy to primary Cornyn, but this time, Trump is correct. If Roy refuses to vote for an ACTUAL date-changing clean CR plus suspension of the debt limit, then Roy is grasping defeat from the jaws of victory.

The debt limit REALLY needs to be killed. The Uniparty uses a fear of breach to jam through all kinds of bull***** No one's actually afraid of a government shutdown, but the whole world fears the US breaching it's debt limit.

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So how long will it take for the debt to hit a billion dollars per citizen?

Drahknor03 said:

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I love Roy and think he'd be a great guy to primary Cornyn, but this time, Trump is correct. If Roy refuses to vote for an ACTUAL date-changing clean CR plus suspension of the debt limit, then Roy is grasping defeat from the jaws of victory.

The debt limit REALLY needs to be killed. The Uniparty uses a fear of breach to jam through all kinds of bull***** No one's actually afraid of a government shutdown, but the whole world fears the US breaching it's debt limit.

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That makes it NOT a clean CR.

Dan Scott said:

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Chip Roy was a DeSantis guy too.

The very unpopular “Congressman” from Texas, Chip Roy, is getting in the way, as usual, of having yet another Great Republican Victory - All for the sake of some cheap publicity for himself. Republican obstructionists have to be done away with. The Democrats are using them, and…

— Donald J. Trump Posts From His Truth Social (@TrumpDailyPosts) December 19, 2024

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If you look up "pot calling the kettle black" in the dictionary - this is what you should get. Holy lack of self-awareness, Batman!

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Drahknor03 said:

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I love Roy and think he'd be a great guy to primary Cornyn, but this time, Trump is correct. If Roy refuses to vote for an ACTUAL date-changing clean CR plus suspension of the debt limit, then Roy is grasping defeat from the jaws of victory.

The debt limit REALLY needs to be killed. The Uniparty uses a fear of breach to jam through all kinds of bull***** No one's actually afraid of a government shutdown, but the whole world fears the US breaching it's debt limit.

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So how long will it take for the debt to hit a billion dollars per citizen?

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If we abolish it? More time than if we don't.

Trump (or more likely Vivek, Musk, and Vought) are looking at the next spending fight in March and realizing it's going to line up with end of extraordinary measures for the debt limit, which means we're going to get royally hosed on the next spending package. No one is going to let the debt limit expire, the Dems know that, and will demand the world for the 150+ votes its going to need to pass both.

OR we can do it now, get a clean CR and take the debt limit off the table for two years and maybe get some wins.

Probably because he was a Democrat until recently.

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Rockdoc said:

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nortex97 said:

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The usual TDS and Democrats 'worried' Trump looks/sounds like a liberal is unsurprising.

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Yeah, we knew they'd show up. It's all they have left.

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Based on your past posting of Trump, he could announce he is now a commie and you'd still lick his boots.

Its never about the man !!! its about policy. Boot lickers will never figure that one out.
If Trump governs from the right, I'll back him. He starts going left he can kiss ass. It's that simple.

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Nah. I don't lick boots. Not his or yours.

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WARREN: AGREE W/ TRUMP THAT CONGRESS SHOULD END THE DEBT LIMIT

— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) December 19, 2024

We like Pocahontas now?

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Wow. This is a toxic endorsement . With friends like this who needs democrats in the presidency. IS Trump losing his mind ?

nortex97 said:

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The usual TDS and Democrats 'worried' Trump looks/sounds like a liberal is unsurprising.

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Uh, If this is true, he's calling for removing the debt ceiling. Thats Trump not sounding liberal ? If Trump or anyone else doesn't want to be tagged as a lib then dont do lib crap.

And, if true, this move is as lib as it gets. Debt will absolutely kill this country's eco if it hasn't already. This issue is the issue of our time. That's totally a Harris-esk move and deserves total condemnation if true.

I am hoping this is lib or media BS.

Dan Scott said:

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WARREN: AGREE W/ TRUMP THAT CONGRESS SHOULD END THE DEBT LIMIT

— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) December 19, 2024

We like Pocahontas now?

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If Warren is in agreement, then it is a hard no. Next 4 years is not looking as promising as I hoped.

Drahknor03 said:

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eric76 said:

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Drahknor03 said:

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I love Roy and think he'd be a great guy to primary Cornyn, but this time, Trump is correct. If Roy refuses to vote for an ACTUAL date-changing clean CR plus suspension of the debt limit, then Roy is grasping defeat from the jaws of victory.

The debt limit REALLY needs to be killed. The Uniparty uses a fear of breach to jam through all kinds of bull***** No one's actually afraid of a government shutdown, but the whole world fears the US breaching it's debt limit.

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So how long will it take for the debt to hit a billion dollars per citizen?

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If we abolish it? More time than if we don't.

Trump (or more likely Vivek, Musk, and Vought) are looking at the next spending fight in March and realizing it's going to line up with end of extraordinary measures for the debt limit, which means we're going to get royally hosed on the next spending package. No one is going to let the debt limit expire, the Dems know that, and will demand the world for the 150+ votes its going to need to pass both.

OR we can do it now, get a clean CR and take the debt limit off the table for two years and maybe get some wins.

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You have a wonderful, but weird imagination.

After the debt limit is gone, what would be holding Congress back from spending without limit? Remember that whatever is passed in a Republican administration will be available to the Democrats the next time they win.

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nortex97 said:

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The usual TDS and Democrats 'worried' Trump looks/sounds like a liberal is unsurprising.

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Uh, If this is true, he's calling for removing the debt ceiling. Thats Trump not sounding liberal ? If Trump or anyone else doesn't want to be tagged as a lib then dont do lib crap.

And, if true, this move is as lib as it gets. Debt will absolutely kill this country's eco if it hasn't already. This issue is the issue of our time. That's totally a Harris-esk move and deserves total condemnation if true.

I am hoping this is lib or media BS.

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If he's calling out the debt ceiling itself as an ineffective tool to limit the growth of the deficit/debt, I don't see that as false. It's a political tool that even if it had good intentions when crafted has failed. Dems (and rino's) use the threat of a shut down over this, and the budget, to drive more spending, period.

He's not starting to sound like a Democrat. He has sounded like a Democrat for years. Look at his views on trade, war, tariffs, even abortion. He's basically a 90s Democrat akin to Bill Clinton.

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There will be no drastic spending cuts in the next 4 years.

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There never was going to be. I don't understand why or how anyone thought there would be.

Greater than 2/3 of our spending is already untouchable. That leaves about 1/3 that will be fought tooth and nail over by the Deep State and Congress.

We are not going to get drastic spending cuts and never were.

People thinking the Trump admin is going to dramatically cut spending are delusional.