https://nypost.com/2024/12/19/business/amazon-workers-go-on-strike-in-us-ahead-of-christmas-rush-as-union-seeks-contract-talks/

May not get your packages on time.

Listening to Fox News on Sirius on my drive into work, and they said the strikers were trying to block Amazon vans from entering and leaving the facility.

This is why I hate unions and strikes. If you feel the need to strike to get management to the bargaining table (which my German work ethic does NOT approve of), but if you feel the need to strike, then you lose all moral high ground and credibility when you purposely try to sabotage the work of the employer you are trying to convince to bargain with you.

I ****ing hate strikes, and I hate sabotaging the work even more. If I'm Amazon, the first thing I tell them is there will be NO negotiation at all if you attempt to block our vans or intimidate our employees.

This will be a complete non-event. The IBT is overplaying their hand here. The facilities in question are drops in the bucket for Amazon - but the IBT feels they have to move now - before the new administration comes in.

And to say the IBT 'represents' these workers is a huge overstatement. There has only been one election where a union was voted in - in Staten Island - but that wasn't the IBT. IT was an 'independent' union that imploded with mismanagement and internal strife and was handed to the IBT by Chris Smalls in return for a sweetheart job for him.

Sean O'Brien and the IBT see Amazon as their white whale. It's a pipe dream.

Had an empty package delivered just last night.

Dog barks, See truck in the street, go to door and pick up empty envelope.

The side is open from end to end. Who loads and / or delivers a clearly empty envelope?

I've pretty much ordered everything on Amazon. All of it has been delivered on time and in perfect condition.

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Had an empty package delivered just last night.

Dog barks, See truck in the street, go to door and pick up empty envelope.

The side is open from end to end. Who loads and / or delivers a clearly empty envelope?

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funny you mention that....had the same thing happen to us monday and saw it on the ring camera...

lady drops off a flimsy package with a clean slit cut right at one of the seems and she's got it pinched with her fingers right where that opening is....wife goes out about an hour later picks up and immediately notices it's empty.....

idiots.....

The drivers aren't Amazon employees - FYI.

Aggie Jurist said:

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The drivers aren't Amazon employees - FYI.

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The drivers in the Amazon trucks aren't? Or the ones in regular vehicles delivering on behalf of amazon?

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https://nypost.com/2024/12/19/business/amazon-workers-go-on-strike-in-us-ahead-of-christmas-rush-as-union-seeks-contract-talks/

May not get your packages on time.

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Gifts have been wrapped for weeks. Ergo, zero f*ks given

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https://nypost.com/2024/12/19/business/amazon-workers-go-on-strike-in-us-ahead-of-christmas-rush-as-union-seeks-contract-talks/

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Gifts have been wrapped for weeks. Ergo, zero f*ks given

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The drivers in the Amazon trucks aren't? Or the ones in regular vehicles delivering on behalf of amazon?

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All of the above. Final mile at Amazon is handled by non-employees.

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https://nypost.com/2024/12/19/business/amazon-workers-go-on-strike-in-us-ahead-of-christmas-rush-as-union-seeks-contract-talks/

May not get your packages on time.

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Covering this here in Atlanta.

This only affects about seven Amazon facilities nationwide, which means effects will be minimal.

While I can't speak for how it's going up north in more Union territory, nobody even showed up this morning. We were staged out front of the setup in Alpharetta, and it was crickets.

It was so bland that I switched it off after several hours.

Finished two weeks ago. Everything was delivered on time. Now, time to watch the world burn.

I ordered some gifts yesterday about 1:30 and the packages beat me home from work. I love and hate Amazon.

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The drivers aren't Amazon employees - FYI.

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The drivers in the Amazon trucks aren't? Or the ones in regular vehicles delivering on behalf of amazon?

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Trucks owned by 3rd party, drivers work for them.

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Aggie Jurist said:

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The drivers aren't Amazon employees - FYI.

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The drivers in the Amazon trucks aren't? Or the ones in regular vehicles delivering on behalf of amazon?

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Trucks owned by 3rd party, drivers work for them.

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Ha crazy, never knew that. Amazon probably wouldn't be too happy with the loud music some of our delivery drivers be blarin.

This kind of stuff will just push amazon to deliver via drone to a secure drop location near your house, or even at your house. Now now one has a job delivering packages.

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The drivers aren't Amazon employees - FYI.

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The drivers in the Amazon trucks aren't? Or the ones in regular vehicles delivering on behalf of amazon?

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Trucks owned by 3rd party, drivers work for them.

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Ha crazy, never knew that. Amazon probably wouldn't be too happy with the loud music some of our delivery drivers be blarin.

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Fed Ex is the same way.

Amazon trucks owned by DSPs and Fed Ex is ISPs.

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Trucks owned by 3rd party, drivers work for them.

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Incorrect. The drivers are 3rd party.

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Trucks owned by 3rd party, drivers work for them.

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Incorrect. The drivers are 3rd party.

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Thats what I said.

This is a good way for them to hasten their own jobs being lost to automation.

Sorry - the statement was a bit ambiguous. The 'them' you were referring to was the third-party owners of the trucks.

They better figure something out pretty quickly. The theft is getting worse, no matter who is doing the stealing.

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Sorry - the statement was a bit ambiguous. The 'them' you were referring to was the third-party owners of the trucks.

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Yes sir.

Fire the strikers and don't let them come back. It'll suck now but there won't be another strike.

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Fire the strikers and don't let them come back. It'll suck now but there won't be another strike.

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Not quite that easy. There are protections for non-economic strikes (that's why the signs reference "Unfair Labor Practices) and if recent history is any indicator, the IBT is paying these people to strike. Nevertheless, this is all for show and will have zero impact on the operations of Amazon.

From what I read, the Teamsters do not represent the workers. There is no CBA with the workers. If that is the case, I think their employment should be terminated due to job abandonment. Get rid of the troublemakers and not be on the hook for unemployment since the workers quit.

It's true there are no CBAs. The IBT has demanded recognition under the new rules that require an employer to seek an election (expect those rules to be gone in short order). The only election where a union was selected occurred in Staten Island with a union called ALU - a crowd-sourced union that imploded earlier this year. Still, a ULP strike is a protected activity.