TikTok ban on Jan 19,2025

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AggieDruggist89
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Or sell to an American company?

Where will I now get the latest news???
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A federal appeals court panel on Friday unanimously upheld a law that could lead to a ban on TikTok in a few short months, handing a resounding defeat to the popular social media platform as it fights for its survival in the U.S.
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit denied TikTok's petition to overturn the law which requires TikTok to break ties with its China-based parent company ByteDance or be banned by mid-January and rebuffed the company's challenge of the statute, which it argued had ran afoul of the First Amendment.
"The First Amendment exists to protect free speech in the United States," said the court's opinion, which was written by Judge Douglas Ginsburg. (yes, the Doug Ginsburg pass pass give give) "Here the Government acted solely to protect that freedom from a foreign adversary nation and to limit that adversary's ability to gather data on people in the United States."
https://apnews.com/article/tiktok-ban-court-ruling-china-6bfd505295ad44126df0544fc083d6a6

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techno-ag
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Oh no. Whatever will our cellphone addled masses do?
Trump will fix it.
usmcbrooks
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techno-ag said:

Oh no. Whatever will our cellphone addled masses do?



Maybe?
Signel
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Doesn't matter who is in office. It should be banned along with a LOT of other Chinese software companies. Furthermore, ownership of American companies should be banned.

How many times has China been caught stealing IP and acting in their own best interest?
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Tick Tock time to sell TikTok The Chinese Communist Party's #1 propaganda platform !!!!!
You luv to set it.
bonfarr
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Why hasn't an American company launched their own booty shaking app to compete with Tik Tok?
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usmcbrooks
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They have However, Governor Abbot has blocked access to those sites.
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It was once a private Chinese company but the CPP had to steal some capitalism. Now its just a tool of the communist. Get rid of it.
General Jack D. Ripper
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So VPN sales skyrocket?
I wish I was a messenger, and all the news was good. Eddie V.
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Supreme Court to hear challenge on TikTok ban law

https://nypost.com/2024/12/18/us-news/supreme-court-to-hear-challenge-on-tiktok-ban-law/


Consideration of the applications for an injunction pending review presented to The Chief Justice and by him referred to the Court is deferred pending oral argument. Applicants suggested this Court treat the applications as petitions for writs of certiorari; doing so, the petitions are granted. The cases are consolidated, and a total of two hours is allotted for oral argument.

The parties are directed to brief and argue the following question: Whether the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act, as applied to petitioners, violates the First Amendment.

The parties are directed to file electronically simultaneous opening briefs, limited to 13,000 words, and a joint appendix on or before 5 p.m. (EST), Friday, December 27, 2024. Reply briefs, limited to 6,000 words, are to be filed electronically on or before 5 p.m. (EST), Friday, January 3, 2025. Any amicus curiae briefs are to be filed electronically on or before 5 p.m. (EST), Friday, December 27, 2024. Booklet format briefs prepared in compliance with Rule 33.1 shall be submitted as soon as possible thereafter.


The case is set for oral argument on Friday, January 10, 2025.

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General Jack D. Ripper said:

So VPN sales skyrocket?


Considering every influencer, and worse yet, politicians and talking heads, are on there, that's a guarantee.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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usmcbrooks said:

They have However, Governor Abbot has blocked access to those sites.
You mean hardcore p0rn sites? Did he actually block access, or did THEY make it a pain to get to as part of a tantrum for him wanting to restrict access from children?
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In related news, we are considering banning TP Link routers which I had not heard of. They are made in China and have gone from 20% market share in 2019 to 65% market share now.

They apparently have frequent and significant security issues. I simply don't understand why anyone would buy anything from China that connects to anything digitally.

They are cheap which is why everyone has bought them. You can almost guarantee those are shipped with spyware.
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YouBet said:

In related news, we are considering banning TP Link routers which I had not heard of. They are made in China and have gone from 20% market share in 2019 to 65% market share now.

They apparently have frequent and significant security issues. I simply don't understand why anyone would buy anything from China that connects to anything digitally.

They are cheap which is why everyone has bought them. You can almost guarantee those are shipped with spyware.


Crap, my home builder put these ethernet switches on my home network. Can these contain spyware?


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I have a TPlink Deco mesh system and love it. I'd be interested to hear from tech/security folks which alternatives are most secure.
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Thunderstruck xx said:

YouBet said:

In related news, we are considering banning TP Link routers which I had not heard of. They are made in China and have gone from 20% market share in 2019 to 65% market share now.

They apparently have frequent and significant security issues. I simply don't understand why anyone would buy anything from China that connects to anything digitally.

They are cheap which is why everyone has bought them. You can almost guarantee those are shipped with spyware.


Crap, my home builder put these ethernet switches on my home network. Can these contain spyware?



Everything connected to the Internet can contain spyware. That said, those are unmanaged switches with limited features and firmware so they aren't likely to be anyone's primary attack vector.
Signel
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It related news, they own a ton of hollywood, game developers, remote access tools, CC TV systems, alarms, media companies, cell phone production, software companies, and much more....

The list is extremely long, and their history of cheating or espionage is extremely lengthy. I still remember the guy that was arrested for spying at A&M - Zhengdong Cheng.

It is shocking to me that it has taken the US this long to do anything about how bad the CCP has been when they've openly talked about their long term goals in their proclamations.
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Stupidly, the DoD uses TP Link so China has immediate backdoor access straight into Defense.

Good job guys.
AggieIce
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None of y'all have any idea what you're talking about here, supremely brainwashed
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YouBet said:

Stupidly, the DoD uses TP Link so China has immediate backdoor access straight into Defense.

Good job guys.
Link please? I always thought TPLink was a consumer grade brand. Best Buy / Amazon etc.

I believe anything used in the government has to be certified for government use. Cisco, Juniper etc....
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Tailgate88 said:

YouBet said:

Stupidly, the DoD uses TP Link so China has immediate backdoor access straight into Defense.

Good job guys.
Link please? I always thought TPLink was a consumer grade brand. Best Buy / Amazon etc.

I believe anything used in the government has to be certified for government use. Cisco, Juniper etc....


This article is the original one I read. TP Link has since been banned. Announced a few days ago.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/us-ban-china-router-tp-link-systems-7d7507e6?st=tnqrvn&reflink=article_copyURL_share

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The router-manufacturer TP-Link, established in China, has roughly 65% of the U.S. market for routers for homes and small businesses. It is also the top choice on Amazon.com , and powers internet communications for the Defense Department and other federal government agencies.


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AggieIce said:

None of y'all have any idea what you're talking about here, supremely brainwashed

Son, come to my desk for a second. Part of the way the ports work is having a mechanical RJ-45 connector and an electrical 1:1 transformer that isolates DC offset voltage from the peer switch or router. Those two things have been combined in something that is called a "mag Jack". US companies have 100% found tiny WI-FI transceiver built into the mag-jacks that sniff all of the data passing through these ports. The jacks are name brand, but counterfeit. They get installed in switches, routers, etc and the manufacturer has no idea they aren't using devices from the legitimate source. It's actually a big concern now with manufacturing companies that the connector and transformer need to be two separate devices now due to the security risk. I can send pics if you want, but it's probably going to be over your head.
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AggieIce said:

None of y'all have any idea what you're talking about here, supremely brainwashed


Except some do: https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/cybersecurity-advisories/aa23-270a

https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/cybersecurity-advisories/aa24-038a
IIIHorn
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FriscoKid said:

AggieIce said:

None of y'all have any idea what you're talking about here, supremely brainwashed

…. I can send pics if you want, but it's probably going to be over your head.


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