Trump and Trudeau have an amazing conversation

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the context is Canada does not want to be a good neighbor and have out on notice the free ride is over.

Canada is not an ally and shoukd be dealt with as such.

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Maybe we can just take Alberta and let Canada keep the rest.
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Most of their population lives south of the US northern border anyway.
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Like we need another California
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Dems would love adding Canada - republicans would lose the electoral college and senate forever.
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Make it part of Alaska and gerrymander the hell out of it.
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Maybe it's time for some more colonization.
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Both guys smiling at the end made me giggle.
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I'm not up to speed on Us/CAN relations

Where is this 100B number coming from?
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Ag87H2O said:

Maybe we can just take Alberta and let Canada keep the rest.
BC, and Saskatchewan are still overwhelmingly conservative. They've got first nations that are probably more liberal.

It's Ontario, and especially Quebec that rule the whole place... Those two are the equivalent to our coastal California and NYC
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Other posts beat me to it, but thanks, no thanks, I don't want Canadians as new fellow citizens, eh.
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Is the 25% tariff a ploy to get Trudeau to bend to Trump's demands?

I do business with someone in Canada and he's already told me that if the tariffs go into effect he won't do business in the U.S. anymore. It's very much a niche product and it would be extremely difficult to find a similar producer here in the States for the same costs.
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AgCat93 said:

Is the 25% tariff a ploy to get Trudeau to bend to Trump's demands?

I do business with someone in Canada and he's already told me that if the tariffs go into effect he won't do business in the U.S. anymore. It's very much a niche product and it would be extremely difficult to find a similar producer here in the States for the same costs.
Sounds like you've stumbled on an opportunity to manufacture the product here.
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mm98 said:

I'm not up to speed on Us/CAN relations

Where is this 100B number coming from?
I think it's buried somewhere in our regular trading with Canada. We import a lot of oil (export a lot too), timber, and manufactured goods.

Do we pay tariffs on some or a lot of that?

How will Trump do it within the confines of the USMCA agreements?
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Gigem_94 said:

Dems would love adding Canada - republicans would lose the electoral college and senate forever.

Never said they got a vote just said theyd be made a state.
Joking aside, no thanks, we dont need another california to free load.
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Bob and Doug McKenzie could be the first two Senators.
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TxSquarebody said:

Most of their population lives south of the US northern border anyway.
They come here for healthcare too bc their system sucks.
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agracer said:

TxSquarebody said:

Most of their population lives south of the US northern border anyway.
They come here for healthcare too bc their system sucks.

edit to add recent screen grab since the current website now provides the 50% numbers to make the stats look better.
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Gigem_94 said:

Dems would love adding Canada - republicans would lose the electoral college and senate forever.


Who says they get to vote in our elections?

They would just be an owned territory like Northern Ireland
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AgCat93 said:

Is the 25% tariff a ploy to get Trudeau to bend to Trump's demands?

I do business with someone in Canada and he's already told me that if the tariffs go into effect he won't do business in the U.S. anymore. It's very much a niche product and it would be extremely difficult to find a similar producer here in the States for the same costs.


Wouldn't a niche product with few manufacturers be the best sort of product to withstand a tarrif? Just pass the increased cost onto the consumer and because they can't get it anywhere else, they'll pay it.
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waitwhat? said:

AgCat93 said:

Is the 25% tariff a ploy to get Trudeau to bend to Trump's demands?

I do business with someone in Canada and he's already told me that if the tariffs go into effect he won't do business in the U.S. anymore. It's very much a niche product and it would be extremely difficult to find a similar producer here in the States for the same costs.
Sounds like you've stumbled on an opportunity to manufacture the product here.
Thats not an opportunity. It's a forced requirement.
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Trudeau has nothing to negotiate. He's lucky Vladimir isn't our leader, we could just steamroll them and take their resources. Could even go Iran/Lebanon on them and force them to fight proxy wars for us.
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The way that Castro Jr cracked down on truckers during "COVID" should cut them off completely from the money that we probably give them.


I don't actually think we have any of the "money". It's a great Ponzi scheme, but I support cutting Canada off.
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Jeeper79 said:

waitwhat? said:

AgCat93 said:

Is the 25% tariff a ploy to get Trudeau to bend to Trump's demands?

I do business with someone in Canada and he's already told me that if the tariffs go into effect he won't do business in the U.S. anymore. It's very much a niche product and it would be extremely difficult to find a similar producer here in the States for the same costs.
Sounds like you've stumbled on an opportunity to manufacture the product here.
Thats not an opportunity. It's a forced requirement.


Lol, what a typical liberal stance.

Conservative - sees an opportunity in this to grow a new industry here in the U.S., one that could provide jobs and enrich yourself and other fellow Americans.

Liberal - whines that you're being "forced" to work instead of having a foreign-made product handed to you on a silver plate.
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Trudeau was probably mother ****ing his television the night of the election.
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We've invaded Canada what, twice, and it didn't go well, though they are vastly softer than they used to be. Still, that's a population we really don't want to colonize into voting in our elections.

I'd rather negotiate a way to give them coastal Oregon and Washington (SeaTac and Portlandia). There are still some nice medical facilities up that way to help them out, and plenty of fellow commies who will be thrilled to join with their brethren I'd think. I'm also willing to throw in Wayne County in Michigan to sweeten the deal.
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FL_Ag1998 said:

Jeeper79 said:

waitwhat? said:

AgCat93 said:

Is the 25% tariff a ploy to get Trudeau to bend to Trump's demands?

I do business with someone in Canada and he's already told me that if the tariffs go into effect he won't do business in the U.S. anymore. It's very much a niche product and it would be extremely difficult to find a similar producer here in the States for the same costs.
Sounds like you've stumbled on an opportunity to manufacture the product here.
Thats not an opportunity. It's a forced requirement.


Lol, what a typical liberal stance.

Conservative - sees an opportunity in this to grow a new industry here in the U.S., one that could provide jobs and enrich yourself and other fellow Americans.

Liberal - whines that you're being "forced" to work instead of having a foreign-made product handed to you on a silver plate.
Im not a lib, but you miss my point which is totally apolitical.

Canada may prove to be a bit different due to a similar cost and standard or living, but things are generally already made where they're cheapest. Tariffs intentionally disrupt this free market phenomenon. Making something here instead, from a business consumer's perspective does nothing more than raise prices for them. It's a choice that few would entertain, given the alternative.

But by all means, if you want to pay more for things due to government intervention, go for it. I personally can't think of a more liberal position, myself.
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Trump doesn't want tariffs. He's using the threat of tariffs to get what he does want and what is best for America. It feels weird because even Olds like me have a hard time remembering a US president taking a hard line on protecting Americans and American interests.
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HumpitPuryear said:

Trump doesn't want tariffs. He's using the threat of tariffs to get what he does want and what is best for America. It feels weird because even Olds like me have a hard time remembering a US president taking a hard line on protecting Americans and American interests.
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