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TRD-Ferguson said:

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Sounds like the CEO at my first job. If meeting time was 8am you had better be there at 7:45AM or you were fired. He called it "Lombardi Time". Apparently that was the way Coach Lombardi did things. Always be 15 minutes early. Served me well over a 45 year career.

One day a lady in our file room told him that no one with a managers title or above would say good morning to her if she said good morning. Next day no one had a title including him. Another lesson learned. Never think too highly of yourself.

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The first point is crap. If a meeting starts at 8:00, and you're ready at 8:00, then there shouldn't be a problem. Having people show up 15 minutes early to sit around and wait for the meeting to start is a waste of everyone's productivity. If you need to be there early to prepare for a meeting, then do it.

A_Gang_Ag_06 said:

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TRD-Ferguson said:

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Sounds like the CEO at my first job. If meeting time was 8am you had better be there at 7:45AM or you were fired. He called it "Lombardi Time". Apparently that was the way Coach Lombardi did things. Always be 15 minutes early. Served me well over a 45 year career.

One day a lady in our file room told him that no one with a managers title or above would say good morning to her if she said good morning. Next day no one had a title including him. Another lesson learned. Never think too highly of yourself.

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Regarding your second point. Always take care of the people who take care of you. In 18 years of O&G I have learned that you always take care of the ladies in the office. They get their Christmas presents first and your ass better always treat them nicely and with respect. If not, prepare for your invoice to be be buried at the bottom of the stack and your company is waiting 90 days for payment.

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Great thoughts.
You are or will be a great manager whom people want to work for.

Treat people right. Be a good human. Why is this so hard for people to understand?

It is not about getting fired/laid off that is the problem, it is about how these "leaders" do it. They treat people like trash which is unacceptable. Shocking that some here see no problem with that. Maybe some kind of corporate masochism.

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Muktheduck said:

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I always try to avoid people like that when possible.

Tell me what time you need me there. I'm an adult, I can show up on time, I don't need the grandstanding. I can't remember the last time I was even a minute late but having me get there 20 minutes early instead of 5 and just stand around waiting is a petty power display, not good advice.

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I purposely log in to Teams meetings about a minute late so I can avoid the small talk/chit-chat. Sometimes it will tell me how many people are already logged in. If there are four or five, chances are they already have some gossip going. I can just hit mute and keep working on what I was doing before the meeting.

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haha I do exactly the same!
On Teams, it lets you know who starts the meeting and in Google Meet, you can the names of 5 people in the meeting. I don't want to join a worthless meeting and find a stranger to make small talk with.

HTownAg98 said:

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TRD-Ferguson said:

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Sounds like the CEO at my first job. If meeting time was 8am you had better be there at 7:45AM or you were fired. He called it "Lombardi Time". Apparently that was the way Coach Lombardi did things. Always be 15 minutes early. Served me well over a 45 year career.

One day a lady in our file room told him that no one with a managers title or above would say good morning to her if she said good morning. Next day no one had a title including him. Another lesson learned. Never think too highly of yourself.

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The first point is crap. If a meeting starts at 8:00, and you're ready at 8:00, then there shouldn't be a problem. Having people show up 15 minutes early to sit around and wait for the meeting to start is a waste of everyone's productivity. If you need to be there early to prepare for a meeting, then do it.

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As someone earlier said it is just a boss power-play. To show who is boss.
And the boot-lickers fall in line and lick the boss's boots by showing up 15 minutes early and wasting their time, just to be seen.

What is worse is they perpetuate this kind of corporate bullying by expecting their underlings to do the same and punish those who don't. Even the high achievers who couldn't be bothered to lick boots (which in these offices are more important than production).

TRD-Ferguson said:

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Sounds like the CEO at my first job. If meeting time was 8am you had better be there at 7:45AM or you were fired. He called it "Lombardi Time". Apparently that was the way Coach Lombardi did things. Always be 15 minutes early. Served me well over a 45 year career.

One day a lady in our file room told him that no one with a managers title or above would say good morning to her if she said good morning. Next day no one had a title including him. Another lesson learned. Never think too highly of yourself.

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But what if you're already in a client meeting from 7-8, does the boss expect that you walk out on a client early just so you can sit in a conference/Teams room waiting him to get there at 8am? Why not just say the meeting starts at 7:45 if that is what he wants?

This really doesn't make any sense to me. If a meeting ends at 5pm (or any time) does he expect you to stay an extra 15 minutes in the conf room before moving onto the next task?

Comes across like a power move when it's really serves no purpose. Bet everyone was glad when he eventually died.

Keep in mind this was in the 70's. He was in his 50's. Total power move.

I'm not suggesting he was right or that I agreed. It did shape the early part of my career though. If anything I was never late for a meeting, appointment, etc. if showing up was within my control.

TRD-Ferguson said:

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Keep in mind this was in the 70's. He was in his 50's. Total power move.

I'm not suggesting he was right or that I agreed. It did shape the early part of my career though. If anything I was never late for a meeting, appointment, etc. if showing up was within my control.

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Makes sense.

I think a good takeaway is if there is an important 8 AM meeting, you don't need to be in the meeting room at 7:45. However, maybe plan your morning drive so you arrive at the office by 7:45 in case there is a traffic delay of some sort. Give yourself a little buffer.