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As for the appointments I think he made a real mistake with Wiles as his Chief of Staff. She is a great campaign manager but she isn't a governance person and she holds serious grudges against anyone associated with DeSantis because he fired her for leaking to the press. That takes out a LOT of talent in the GOP that is very good at executing policy because she is including anyone that supported DeSantis

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Chief of Staff is a real important position, and you want someone with real inside insight, a regular Merlin to Arthur, for a Chief of Staff. Someone who knows the ins and outs of the West Wing and Beltway both. Not sure campaign managing directly translates to that.

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As for the appointments I think he made a real mistake with Wiles as his Chief of Staff. She is a great campaign manager but she isn't a governance person and she holds serious grudges against anyone associated with DeSantis because he fired her for leaking to the press. That takes out a LOT of talent in the GOP that is very good at executing policy because she is including anyone that supported DeSantis

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Chief of Staff is a real important position, and you want someone with real inside insight, a regular Merlin to Arthur, for a Chief of Staff. Someone who knows the ins and outs of the West Wing and Beltway both. Not sure campaign managing directly translates to that.

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Pretty much all her experience outside of campaigns has been in Florida and not national. She spent a little time working for a House Rep in the '90s. She's very good at campaigns but a job like this is just not something she has experience with. As for the DeSantis stuff that's been evident, there are no DeSantis people or supporters among the choices so far. A few have been rumored but not selected. I really hope that changes as that is just a lot of talent to leave out.

I want this to succeed though and I'll give Trump and Wiles the benefit of the doubt. When some of these folks end up being disappointments though just realize there were a lot of other choices they could have made. Love to be proven wrong. I'd love it even more if Trump would reach out to DeSantis and Reynolds (and Roy and Massie and Cruz and Lee) and get them on the team instead of kicking them to the curb. They are the brightest minds in the GOP and they know how to do the dirty work. Hey but if he can get it done without them that's fine too, I care about winning a lot more than I care about who gets the credit.

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which ones are you baffled about?

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I'm not crazy about this woman. Now maybe she's changed her views on masks and such.

Dr. Janette Nesheiwat supported masking kids in school. DEALBREAKER.

https://t.co/3ERoCD7tBR

— Liz Wheeler (@Liz_Wheeler) November 23, 2024

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I have read that Waltz is married to her sister. I really think this is a 'circle of trust' type of situation. I'm not defending her, and certainly would prefer she wasn't picked, but that's my theory on it.

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I also think there should be a blanket pardon for the J6 people not by case. They were all persecuted and prosecuted unfairly, regardless of crime.

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Including ones that attacked cops?

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Sure, in any other city illegals can beat the **** out of cops and be set free on cashless bail. What makes these people worse than illegal gangs?

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So you'd undo a "right" because other unrelated cases got it wrong? That doesn't sound like the party of law and order to me.

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Give me a break. Zero punishment vs 4 years? Terrible point.

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I'm not crazy about this woman. Now maybe she's changed her views on masks and such.

Dr. Janette Nesheiwat supported masking kids in school. DEALBREAKER.

https://t.co/3ERoCD7tBR

— Liz Wheeler (@Liz_Wheeler) November 23, 2024

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Sec DOD nominee interviews Surgeon General nominee.... weird.

I'm surprised Hegseth hasn't been mentioned yet as a WTF nomination.

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I'm surprised Hegseth hasn't been mentioned yet as a WTF nomination.

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That one is baffling to me.
Combat experience: Check
MAGA: Check
Management experience: Zero

Trump's appointments are historically awesome and significant.

Loyalty >

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I thiik a lot of people here read into Trump what they wanted to see. What we will end up seeing is a lot lIke his first term. Some of the good from the 2017-2019 years, but also some of bad, and some of 2020 thrown in to boot. Prepare to be at least slightly underwhelmed

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Kinda like you just did?

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I also think there should be a blanket pardon for the J6 people not by case. They were all persecuted and prosecuted unfairly, regardless of crime.

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Including ones that attacked cops?

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After cops intentionally fired cans of tear gas outta a bazooka directly in the crowd. Any reactions of an innocent mind are understandable.

Oh and the paid rabble rousers understood the reactions were the goal.

Loyalty and trusty are important in the cabinet; more so in the executive staff.

But there needs to be more examination of qualifications and vetting of background than the standard reality TV show.

I'm sure in Trumpworld, banging a bunch of bottled blondes and younger women is proof that the guy is a winner, but any normal person is going to have questions about his stability.

I'm going to give the don the benefit of the doubt here… he and his family have already spoken about and know how their cabinet picks boned them in 2016 so I expect them to have learned from that. I'm also sure it wasn't easy to get elected, so I bet he had to give some favors along the way, some probably in the form of cabinet picks. I'm going to withhold judgment till I see everything in action, but I'm sure many of you will be right and some will end up not panning out, but let's wait and see.

I guess the solace here is that Trump is usually quick on the trigger to get incompetent or useless people out. He wont ride a bad nom out for as long as, say, any establishment candidate in American history.

The turnover in the WH during his tenure was used as a negative trait, but I think it's actually a strength of his.

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I guess the solace here is that Trump is usually quick on the trigger to get incompetent or useless people out. He wont ride a bad nom out for as long as, say, any establishment candidate in American history.

The turnover in the WH during his tenure was used as a negative trait, but I think it's actually a strength of his.

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You have a point. Remember the rightful meltdown after the midterms by Gingrich at W for causing the loss of the whole Hill in 2006 by not firing some of the Iraq gang sooner? That's an example of what you mean by staying the course to ruin. Trump at least does not do that---they are booted quickly in most cases. (Fauci an unfortunate outlier)

He's used to being an executive. If you dont get the results that you demand and need to change direction, sometimes that means saying "You're Fired" and getting a new guy.

Trump picks based on loyalty with a plus for any sort of celebrity status. That's it. Some will just accidentally be good, but trying to find some sort of higher knowledge in trump and cos actions is a fool's errand.

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I also think there should be a blanket pardon for the J6 people not by case. They were all persecuted and prosecuted unfairly, regardless of crime.

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Including ones that attacked cops?

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Those already have immunity as operatives of the CIA.

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Trump picks based on loyalty with a plus for any sort of celebrity status. That's it. Some will just accidentally be good, but trying to find some sort of higher knowledge in trump and cos actions is a fool's errand.

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After all of the backstabbing and cabinet leaks '16-'20, I suppose "loyalty" would be a top qualifying characteristic.

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Anti gun AG for one

the fact that he even considered having mike pompeo on his team tells me he hasnt changed enough from his 1st term

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This is what happens when you elect someone whose main qualification for hiring is how loyal someone is to him.

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Pretty much the only President in history that didn't do that was Trump 45.

This is such a stupid take that truly exposes how illinformed some people are.

Let me help some people out who don't seem to understand how this works.

All presidents prioritize loyalty. Because it's Their agenda. That's literally how this system works. JFK appoints his brother. W appointed college buddies. Etc.

All presidents appoint head scratchers. You just don't generally hear about them as much because our media is awful. Obama hired a physicist as SoD. Biden's primary qualification was how colorful your rainbow was.

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Anti gun AG for one

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Why is it baffling he'd pick someone with same feelings about guns that he has?

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Why is it baffling he'd pick someone with same feelings about guns that he has?

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You think Trump, who spoke last year at the NRA convention about the 2nd amendment being under siege, and campaigned as well on gun owner rights, is anti-gun for some reason? I certainly don't. C'mon, man.

Bondi I think has some 'nuanced' views about background checks but she's going to be vastly better than damn Garland on gun rights as AG, and it's the ATF position (as well as FBI) I am much more interested in on the topic, in any case.

President Trump has dedicated himself to protecting the constitutional rights of Americans to defend themselves and their families. We were proud to give him our full endorsement:

“I have the total endorsement of the NRA — have had it from the beginning.” pic.twitter.com/5jy6vRNmh2

— NRA (@NRA) September 19, 2024

“The NRA endorsed me very powerfully — every time I ran. My sons are members…I’m a member too...our Second Amendment is a very important right and it has to be protected.” - President Trump pic.twitter.com/qh0uidZC7G

— NRA (@NRA) August 8, 2024

Trumps words and actions show he's as "anti-gun" as Bondi. Clearly he's not going to ban guns and I don't think gun owners need to have any great concern. Thats they'll be better than Biden/Garland/Merrixk really is indisputable.

The point is Bondi believes the same things Trump has said. He's for red flag laws on state level just like her. He was for raising the age to buy guns.

. Why should it be baffling he picked her?

Ok, I just think her views about state laws as to background checks/ages (for hand guns as we have in Texas) really won't impact the administration/law/policies at all at the federal level. I guess we agree pretty much. Some of the 'she's anti-gun' stuff just seems misplaced to me.

I do wish any holds placed by states on NICS background checks etc. should be made transparent to the individual but that's a separate topic entirely.

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I'm not crazy about this woman. Now maybe she's changed her views on masks and such.

Dr. Janette Nesheiwat supported masking kids in school. DEALBREAKER.

https://t.co/3ERoCD7tBR

— Liz Wheeler (@Liz_Wheeler) November 23, 2024

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This is the one I don't like. Is she the actual pick or was it just rumored? If pick, hoping done how her views have changed.

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Sure, in any other city illegals can beat the **** out of cops and be set free on cashless bail. What makes these people worse than illegal gangs?

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So you'd undo a "right" because other unrelated cases got it wrong? That doesn't sound like the party of law and order to me.

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If 4 years is the right number, then so be it. I suspect if the circumstance were even slightly different and the crime was the same, you'd be asking for 10. Heck some in here would be asking for life.

Or hangsings, calling it treason. Been a lot of that one floating around lately.

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He started incredibly strong but several of them are a little questionable. I hope these aren't favors owed or anything and that he's learned from his first term.

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I'm not crazy about this woman. Now maybe she's changed her views on masks and such.

Dr. Janette Nesheiwat supported masking kids in school. DEALBREAKER.

https://t.co/3ERoCD7tBR

— Liz Wheeler (@Liz_Wheeler) November 23, 2024

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This is the one I don't like. Is she the actual pick or was it just rumored? If pick, hoping done how her views have changed.

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I give a tad bit of grace to people at the beginning of the covid bull***** What are her thoughts now? Does she still believe masking and vaccines are good or has she changed her mind?

People do forget this. Before the capitol riot started, it was a protest outside in front of the barricades. Then the police decided to "break it up" and starting firing tear gas canisters randomly into the crowd, and that really set them off.

There's plenty of video of it, but it rarely gets talk about. It didn't fit the narrative.

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People do forget this. Before the capitol riot started, it was a protest outside in front of the barricades. Then the police decided to "break it up" and starting firing tear gas canisters randomly into the crowd, and that really set them off.

There's plenty of video of it, but it rarely gets talk about. It didn't fit the narrative.

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It was a bit more that the agent provocateurs (Feds such as Ray Epps) with bullhorns etc. urged folks forward when that happened, and the police removed the barricades/opened some doors to the capitol as well. The FBI helpfully lost count of how many folks they had in the crowd.

It was a Oplan, just not one drawn up by Trump supporters/DC gulag political prisoners.