policywonk98 said:

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We are a nation of 50 member states.

31 of those 50 member states voted for Donald Trump and their constitutionally apportioned Electoral College votes equalling 312 are being certified and cast for Donald J Trump. This is 58% of the EC votes allocated to those 31 states.

That's the end of the story. The popular vote does not matter. We are a constitutional Republic of 50 member states.

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Correction. The popular vote only matters when it favors the Dems.

reagan '84 was a mandate, trump '24 was more like a mild preference

Clinton barely got over 40% of the vote and very likely would have lost if not for Perot, but the media claimed that his win was a mandate.

Its kind of sad, really

Old McDonald said:

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reagan '84 was a mandate, trump '24 was more like a mild preference

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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

OMG where is the eye roll emoji?

zb008 said:

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Clinton barely got over 40% of the vote and very likely would have lost if not for Perot, but the media claimed that his win was a mandate.

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Democrat win = mandate

Republican win = resistance

Remember it's (D)ifferent

They still can't admit that they ran an empty suit and probably the worst candidate in the history If this country. They are still writing articles about how Steph is the electorate is - which is comically pointing out who the stupid ones are.

whatthehey78 said:

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3rd party??? Everyone KNOWS = wasted votes by nerds and weirdos. Don't count...nothing's changed.

Sorry if I offend...but facts ARE facts.

ETA - actually, I wish there were a "serious/viable" 3rd party.

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Not nerds, just weirdos.

But as long as the US continues to use plurality ("first past the post") voting and single-seat legislative districts, we're stuck with a two-party system. Duverger's Law.

eric76 said:

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The popular vote doesn't matter.

Why do some people think that it does matter?

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Because people are dumb and don't understand that "X won the popular vote" and "X would have won the election if it were done by popular vote" are not equivalent statements. Because nomination and campaigning strategies are based around the electoral college.

whatthehey78 said:

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3rd party??? Everyone KNOWS = wasted votes by nerds and weirdos. Don't count...nothing's changed.

Sorry if I offend...but facts ARE facts.

ETA - actually, I wish there were a "serious/viable" 3rd party.

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Voting 3rd party is dumb and narcissistic unless it hurts the dems then it's a good thing.

ts5641 said:

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whatthehey78 said:

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3rd party??? Everyone KNOWS = wasted votes by nerds and weirdos. Don't count...nothing's changed.

Sorry if I offend...but facts ARE facts.

ETA - actually, I wish there were a "serious/viable" 3rd party.

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Voting 3rd party is dumb and narcissistic unless it hurts the dems then it's a good thing.

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This is a sad opinion. We spend 1460 days lamenting the broken two party system and how neither party is willing to do the right things by the American people. Then on election day we vote for the least ****ty of those two parties so we can spend the next 1460 days *****ing about how the winning party is doing nothing to fix what's broken.

I voted Trump because he seems hell bent on fixing some of this disaster by rooting out and destroying the corruption. If he fails it'll be because the establishment is simply too powerful and his own party railroaded his reform agenda. Then in 2028 you can tell me again how I have to vote Republican so the Democrats don't turn us into the USSA. If Trump makes no progress I'm going to tell you we already are the USSA.

It's like tennis, it's how you measure, not what. You can lose a tennis match badly scoring more points than your opponent, even winning more games. Doesn't matter.

cecil77 said:

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It's like tennis, it's how you measure, not what. You can lose a tennis match badly scoring more points than your opponent, even winning more games. Doesn't matter.

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If there was only a constitution, which we all can agree on, that would tell us how to pick our presidents....
The MSM is leading an insurgency against our constitution....

For liberals ... "If the facts are with your case... pound on the facts.... If the law is with your case.... pound on the law and if neither facts or law is on your side.... pound on the table" My apologies to Carl Sandburg

quoted wrong post

zb008 said:

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Clinton barely got over 40% of the vote and very likely would have lost if not for Perot, but the media claimed that his win was a mandate.

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eric76 will be here in 5,4,3,2,...

ToddyHill said:

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MSN Article

The title of the article is misleading. He still is ahead by 2.5 million votes. But adding third party votes brings him slightly below 50%.

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On Election Night, with characteristic modesty, Donald Trump claimed an "unprecedented and powerful mandate." He certainly won the contest legitimately, if more narrowly than many observers initially thought. His popular-vote margin over Kamala Harris has dropped from around 3 percent on the evening of November 5 (or about two-thirds of Joe Biden's margin in 2020) to 1.62 percent today. That's about a half-percent smaller than Hillary Clinton's national popular-vote margin over Trump in 2016. To make some other comparisons: Barack Obama won the popular vote by 3.9 percent in 2012 and 7.2 percent in 2016, and George W. Bush won the popular vote by 2.4 percent in the very close 2004 election.

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I suppose the only thing the Dems can do now is to show how close the vote was.

They just can't recognize their candidate was terrible.

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Dukakis wasn't as horrible as Kamala. Then again, he actually stood for things. Yes, they were unpopular things, but at least he had his own views and convictions.

Trump having fewer percentage points doesn't change the fact that he won. Yes, his number was less than those other presidents in this category, but only an idiot cares about such things. In the real world, the only thing that counts is whether you win or lose. No one in the real world cares by how much.

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zb008 said:

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Clinton barely got over 40% of the vote and very likely would have lost if not for Perot, but the media claimed that his win was a mandate.

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eric76 will be here in 5,4,3,2,...

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He had more votes than anyone else… then he in fact won the popular vote.

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Dukakis wasn't as horrible as Kamala. Then again, he actually stood for things. Yes, they were unpopular things, but at least he had his own views and convictions.

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Oh I don't know about that. He was unable to answer questions well, either.