HTownAg98 said:

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Tom Fox said:

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Cry harder. If there was anything there, he would be facing criminal charges.

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Statute of limitations may have expired, witnesses may not want to cooperate, witnesses have their own checkered past and may not be reliable, there's plenty of reasons criminal charges may not be brought.

Most professionals organizations won't stop an ethics investigation just because you resign. I guess Congress is (D)iffe(R)ent.

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may may may may may

Facts: Charges WERE NOT brought.

93MarineHorn said:

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Why wouldn't the uni-party want to release a report that would harm a MAGA nominee? If anything, it sends a message that what they have on Gaetz is a bunch of nothing.

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I see it more as they are protecting themselves and each other. The haves and the have nots.

If there is nothing there - they should release.

If it's inconclusive - they should release it.

If it nails Gaetz to the wall - they should release it.

Tom Fox said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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Tom Fox said:

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Cry harder. If there was anything there, he would be facing criminal charges.

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Statute of limitations may have expired, witnesses may not want to cooperate, witnesses have their own checkered past and may not be reliable, there's plenty of reasons criminal charges may not be brought.

Most professionals organizations won't stop an ethics investigation just because you resign. I guess Congress is (D)iffe(R)ent.

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They had plenty of time to bring charges prior to the SOL. As far as the rest, that means they did not have the evidence.

Case closed.

I am a criminal attorney and understand the nuances of the system.

Innocent until proven guilty. The government's case, unlike fine wine, does not get better with age.

This stuff is old news now and just smear material at this point.

Time to move on to another attack.

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Agreed.

Gaetz is to the point of boring already, and this just makes everything being brought up just sad at their desperation to nail a guy who, to the non politic wonks like is, is as known as that guy from that district in that state.

Move on, FFS.

Tom Fox said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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Tom Fox said:

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Cry harder. If there was anything there, he would be facing criminal charges.

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Statute of limitations may have expired, witnesses may not want to cooperate, witnesses have their own checkered past and may not be reliable, there's plenty of reasons criminal charges may not be brought.

Most professionals organizations won't stop an ethics investigation just because you resign. I guess Congress is (D)iffe(R)ent.

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They had plenty of time to bring charges prior to the SOL. As far as the rest, that means they did not have the evidence.

Case closed.

I am a criminal attorney and understand the nuances of the system.

Innocent until proven guilty. The government's case, unlike fine wine, does not get better with age.

This stuff is old news now and just smear material at this point.

Time to move on to another attack.

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If there is nothing there, what's the harm in releasing it to the public? It just looks like the same old politics.

Heineken-Ashi said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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Tom Fox said:

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Cry harder. If there was anything there, he would be facing criminal charges.

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Statute of limitations may have expired, witnesses may not want to cooperate, witnesses have their own checkered past and may not be reliable, there's plenty of reasons criminal charges may not be brought.

Most professionals organizations won't stop an ethics investigation just because you resign. I guess Congress is (D)iffe(R)ent.

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may may may may may

Facts: Charges WERE NOT brought.

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What's your point? Just because charges weren't brought doesn't mean a crime didn't happen. You think Al Capone's only crime was tax evasion?

TexasAggie73 said:

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Tom Fox said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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Tom Fox said:

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Cry harder. If there was anything there, he would be facing criminal charges.

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Statute of limitations may have expired, witnesses may not want to cooperate, witnesses have their own checkered past and may not be reliable, there's plenty of reasons criminal charges may not be brought.

Most professionals organizations won't stop an ethics investigation just because you resign. I guess Congress is (D)iffe(R)ent.

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They had plenty of time to bring charges prior to the SOL. As far as the rest, that means they did not have the evidence.

Case closed.

I am a criminal attorney and understand the nuances of the system.

Innocent until proven guilty. The government's case, unlike fine wine, does not get better with age.

This stuff is old news now and just smear material at this point.

Time to move on to another attack.

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If there is nothing there, what's the harm in releasing it to the public? It just looks like the same old politics.

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Seriously?

Selacious allegations are the sweetest food for the MSM sharks to feed on. It's not whether or not they're true, it's the seriousness of the allegations...

Surely you know this.

93MarineHorn said:

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Why wouldn't the uni-party want to release a report that would harm a MAGA nominee? If anything, it sends a message that what they have on Gaetz is a bunch of nothing.

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Disagree. I think the bigger issue is the precedent this would send to those who fear their own skeletons. I personally think those with skeletons that have been covered up should be rooted out....but apparently character isn't as important as saying all the right things and voting correctly for various things.

Even if the report isn't released, the confirmation will detract from more important aspects of lining up Trump's policies and get things in place. The effort to force this guy into the AG role is not worth the headaches it will seemingly continued to create. Another reason is that the left is actually hoping he does get confirmed because they anticipate him being a dumpster fire and a distraction from Trump trying to get things done.

In actuality, its the deputy AG that is the operations person and the more critical one. Why waste political capital on Gaetz when there are significantly more qualified options?

TexasAggie73 said:

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If there is nothing there, what's the harm in releasing it to the public? It just looks like the same old politics.

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Like the dossier, huh?

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In actuality, its the deputy AG that is the operations person and the more critical one. Why waste political capital on Gaetz when there are significantly more qualified options?

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Because a president gets to choose his cabinet. At least democrat presidents do.

TexasAggie73 said:

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Tom Fox said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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Tom Fox said:

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Cry harder. If there was anything there, he would be facing criminal charges.

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Statute of limitations may have expired, witnesses may not want to cooperate, witnesses have their own checkered past and may not be reliable, there's plenty of reasons criminal charges may not be brought.

Most professionals organizations won't stop an ethics investigation just because you resign. I guess Congress is (D)iffe(R)ent.

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They had plenty of time to bring charges prior to the SOL. As far as the rest, that means they did not have the evidence.

Case closed.

I am a criminal attorney and understand the nuances of the system.

Innocent until proven guilty. The government's case, unlike fine wine, does not get better with age.

This stuff is old news now and just smear material at this point.

Time to move on to another attack.

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If there is nothing there, what's the harm in releasing it to the public? It just looks like the same old politics.

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Reputational harm. I do realize this is Congress we're talking about here, where salacious news leaks like a sieve.

HTownAg98 said:

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TexasAggie73 said:

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Tom Fox said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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Tom Fox said:

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Cry harder. If there was anything there, he would be facing criminal charges.

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Statute of limitations may have expired, witnesses may not want to cooperate, witnesses have their own checkered past and may not be reliable, there's plenty of reasons criminal charges may not be brought.

Most professionals organizations won't stop an ethics investigation just because you resign. I guess Congress is (D)iffe(R)ent.

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They had plenty of time to bring charges prior to the SOL. As far as the rest, that means they did not have the evidence.

Case closed.

I am a criminal attorney and understand the nuances of the system.

Innocent until proven guilty. The government's case, unlike fine wine, does not get better with age.

This stuff is old news now and just smear material at this point.

Time to move on to another attack.

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If there is nothing there, what's the harm in releasing it to the public? It just looks like the same old politics.

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Reputational harm. I do realize this is Congress we're talking about here, where salacious news leaks like a sieve.

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It seems to me hiding the report says something is there.

Ethics in America is at an all time low.!

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HTownAg98 said:

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Reputational harm. I do realize this is Congress we're talking about here, where salacious news leaks like a sieve.

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It seems to me hiding the report says something is there.

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Yes. Of course it does.

BigFred said:

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Ethics in America is at an all time low.!

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Don't worry


MAGA is coming to clean up the giant **** show your team created



Ethics will be back soon enough

Can't tell if this is satire or trolling.

Rapier108 said:

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Excuse my ignorance, but if he's accused of a crime why is an ethics committee investigating and not a police detective?

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The FBI did investigate Gaetz and DOJ did not bring charges. I would bet the Senate will subpoena everything from from that investigation.

The House Ethics Committee would be more along the lines of your employer investigating you for conduct that violates your employee agreement. They cannot bring criminal charges, but they could recommend the House hold a vote to kick you out for violating the House rules.

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thanks

HTownAg98 said:

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Can't tell is this is satire or trolling.

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You think open borders to facilitate sex slave trade, drug trade, & commerce of violent criminals is ethical?


You think stealing money from Americans to run it through a war machine money launderer is ethical?



You think men in the bathroom w little girls is ethical?



I could keep going but the point will probably never make it through to you.....

Mr. Fingerbottom said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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Can't tell is this is satire or trolling.

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You think open borders to facilitate sex slave trade, drug trade, & commerce of violent criminals is ethical?


You think stealing money from Americans to run it through a war machine money launderer is ethical?



You think men in the bathroom w little girls is ethical?



I could keep going but the point will probably never make it through to you.....

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Irrelevant. We can have a separate debate if these policies are moral or ethical (in my opinion, they aren't). This discussion is more about if the people that are going to be in charge will be ethical. You'd have to be damn fool if you think that's the case.

93MarineHorn said:

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Why wouldn't the uni-party want to release a report that would harm a MAGA nominee? If anything, it sends a message that what they have on Gaetz is a bunch of nothing.

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We haven't seen Trumps Jan 6 reports either. Kennedy assassination, Epsteins list, Diddys list, the Vegas shooter and many others.

HTownAg98 said:

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Heineken-Ashi said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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Tom Fox said:

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Cry harder. If there was anything there, he would be facing criminal charges.

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Statute of limitations may have expired, witnesses may not want to cooperate, witnesses have their own checkered past and may not be reliable, there's plenty of reasons criminal charges may not be brought.

Most professionals organizations won't stop an ethics investigation just because you resign. I guess Congress is (D)iffe(R)ent.

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may may may may may

Facts: Charges WERE NOT brought.

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What's your point? Just because charges weren't brought doesn't mean a crime didn't happen. You think Al Capone's only crime was tax evasion?

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It's the seriousness of the charge - right?

I guarantee you if they had anything they would have taken Gaetz out a long time ago.



We know the playbook now.

BigFred said:

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Ethics in America is at an all time low.!

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Yes, but Gaetz is going to fix that once he is confirmed.

Ag87H2O said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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Heineken-Ashi said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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Tom Fox said:

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Cry harder. If there was anything there, he would be facing criminal charges.

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Statute of limitations may have expired, witnesses may not want to cooperate, witnesses have their own checkered past and may not be reliable, there's plenty of reasons criminal charges may not be brought.

Most professionals organizations won't stop an ethics investigation just because you resign. I guess Congress is (D)iffe(R)ent.

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may may may may may

Facts: Charges WERE NOT brought.

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What's your point? Just because charges weren't brought doesn't mean a crime didn't happen. You think Al Capone's only crime was tax evasion?

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It's the seriousness of the charge - right?

I guarantee you if they had anything they would have taken Gaetz out a long time ago.



We know the playbook now.

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The post you responded to is about as moronic as it gets. SMH

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https://www.wsj.com/politics/ethics-committee-meets-to-consider-releasing-matt-gaetz-report-4632931b?mod=hp_lead_pos1

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WASHINGTONThe bipartisan House panel probing sexual-misconduct allegations against former Rep. Matt Gaetz declined Wednesday to release its report on President-elect Donald Trump's pick for attorney general, setting the stage for an effort by Democrats to force a vote on the matter.

"There was no agreement by the committee to release the report," said Rep. Michael Guest (R., Miss.), the chairman of the secretive panel, after a two-hour meeting. Other members of the panel left the meeting without talking to reporters.

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THIS is the uniparty in action - as a group these congress critters are protecting themselves. They don't want us, they people they serve, to know what goes on behind closed doors.

This should piss you off - regardless who you support.

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Good, 3 years investigation by the Department of Justice, a DEMOCRAT DoJ has not filed charges. Catch up

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Why wouldn't the uni-party want to release a report that would harm a MAGA nominee? If anything, it sends a message that what they have on Gaetz is a bunch of nothing.

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I see it more as they are protecting themselves and each other. The haves and the have nots.

If there is nothing there - they should release.

If it's inconclusive - they should release it.

If it nails Gaetz to the wall - they should release it.

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The ethics report are regurgitation of what DOJ declined to charge Gaetz with sex trafficking because the "witnesses" were deemed not remotely credible.

These are the same "witnesses" in the Ethics complaint.

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Many Americans are sick and tired of elected officials and media pundits doing nothing as DOJ attempted to destroy the country with its abuse of the rule of law. Among the many powerful figures in Washington, D.C. opposed to the Gaetz nomination are some who are attempting to thwart it by releasing a report from the House Ethics Committee that will attempt to tie Gaetz to salacious allegations involving child sex trafficking.

The report comes years after DOJ dropped its investigation into the same claims on the grounds that the two central witnesses had serious credibility issues. Yet these are the same two central witnesses the House Ethics Committee has relied on for its critical report of Gaetzthe same report it is leaking to compliant reporters as part of a coordinated effort to thwart his nomination as President-elect Donald Trump's next attorney general.

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Genesis of Gaetz probe

Read Hemmingway's article to see how much this so called "Ethics Report" is merely a political smear campaign against a non-swamp dweller. It all is based on the allegations of a convicted felon Greenberg who is in jail for falsely accusing an innocent man of sexual relationship with a minor and turns around to accuse Gaetz of the same thing when Gaetz won't intervene with Trump to get a pardon.

By all means, let's try this case in the court of the biased MSM, where actual facts do not matter.

Shoefly! said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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Why wouldn't the uni-party want to release a report that would harm a MAGA nominee? If anything, it sends a message that what they have on Gaetz is a bunch of nothing.

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We haven't seen Trumps Jan 6 reports either.

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Those were so legitimate that the libs and their "republican" comrades destroyed all the evidence, illegally.

HTownAg98 said:

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Mr. Fingerbottom said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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Can't tell is this is satire or trolling.

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You think open borders to facilitate sex slave trade, drug trade, & commerce of violent criminals is ethical?


You think stealing money from Americans to run it through a war machine money launderer is ethical?



You think men in the bathroom w little girls is ethical?



I could keep going but the point will probably never make it through to you.....

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Irrelevant. We can have a separate debate if these policies are moral or ethical (in my opinion, they aren't). This discussion is more about if the people that are going to be in charge will be ethical. You'd have to be damn fool if you think that's the case.

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You could not be wrong


The end solution for the American middle class is what counts here.... not what politicians do behind closed doors




Although libs out-duel the gop in that category as well

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Ag87H2O said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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Heineken-Ashi said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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Tom Fox said:

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Cry harder. If there was anything there, he would be facing criminal charges.

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Statute of limitations may have expired, witnesses may not want to cooperate, witnesses have their own checkered past and may not be reliable, there's plenty of reasons criminal charges may not be brought.

Most professionals organizations won't stop an ethics investigation just because you resign. I guess Congress is (D)iffe(R)ent.

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may may may may may

Facts: Charges WERE NOT brought.

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What's your point? Just because charges weren't brought doesn't mean a crime didn't happen. You think Al Capone's only crime was tax evasion?

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It's the seriousness of the charge - right?

I guarantee you if they had anything they would have taken Gaetz out a long time ago.



We know the playbook now.

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The post you responded to is about as moronic as it gets. SMH

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Nm. Read it wrong.

How many years did Epstein get away what he was doing how many people knew? Didn't he get a slap on the hand previously? Diddy how long? How many people knew?
Lot of people here being intentionally dense. Nothing to see hear, no need to release any reports. Anyone hear of Alex Acosta...

Geminiv said:

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How many years did Epstein get away what he was doing how many people knew? Didn't he get a slap on the hand previously? Diddy how long? How many people knew?
Lot of people here being intentionally dense. Nothing to see hear, no need to release any reports. Anyone hear of Alex Acosta...

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Your tears are delicious.

HTownAg98 said:

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Heineken-Ashi said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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Tom Fox said:

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Cry harder. If there was anything there, he would be facing criminal charges.

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Statute of limitations may have expired, witnesses may not want to cooperate, witnesses have their own checkered past and may not be reliable, there's plenty of reasons criminal charges may not be brought.

Most professionals organizations won't stop an ethics investigation just because you resign. I guess Congress is (D)iffe(R)ent.

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may may may may may

Facts: Charges WERE NOT brought.

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What's your point? Just because charges weren't brought doesn't mean a crime didn't happen. You think Al Capone's only crime was tax evasion?

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It's the only one they could prove.

Technically, he's not guilty of anything else...

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Gaetz should absolutely go Ape **** on anyone who mentions the allegations now. He should demand the report be released, or that the people giving advice and consent should STFU about it.

You can't make unsubstantiated allegations, spend millions investigating the truth, and then hide behind confidentiality of your investigations and still lob allogations.

I was not a big fan of Gaetz before this. But, as of now, I firmly disbelieve anything anyone has to say about him, since the truth won't be out there.

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You think Gaetz wants it released? I'm sure he's relieved.

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How are you sure? Pure speculation.

TexasAggie73 said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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TexasAggie73 said:

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Tom Fox said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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Tom Fox said:

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Cry harder. If there was anything there, he would be facing criminal charges.

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Statute of limitations may have expired, witnesses may not want to cooperate, witnesses have their own checkered past and may not be reliable, there's plenty of reasons criminal charges may not be brought.

Most professionals organizations won't stop an ethics investigation just because you resign. I guess Congress is (D)iffe(R)ent.

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They had plenty of time to bring charges prior to the SOL. As far as the rest, that means they did not have the evidence.

Case closed.

I am a criminal attorney and understand the nuances of the system.

Innocent until proven guilty. The government's case, unlike fine wine, does not get better with age.

This stuff is old news now and just smear material at this point.

Time to move on to another attack.

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If there is nothing there, what's the harm in releasing it to the public? It just looks like the same old politics.

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Reputational harm. I do realize this is Congress we're talking about here, where salacious news leaks like a sieve.

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It seems to me hiding the report says something is there.

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Or, hiding the report gives permission to insinuate something is there that is not, without proof. This is the government that shut me into my home over a cold, that printed money away to cover over their graft, and lied their arses off over the health of the POTUS. They get zero benefits of the doubt from me.

This all smacks of typical elitist ballcrap.

Us little, sad, stupid pleabs shouldn't be privy to the actual facts of the issue to decide for ourselves. We need an ivory tower leadership to tell us what is right and what is wrong. Trust the experts. Trust the science. Trust the politicians.

BULL*****

Do the math. Show your work. The American public, together, is smart enough to get down to the very brass tacks of the issue, and form an opinion.

I trust zero people in DC.

Probably smart. If you're going to start coming after the soon-to-be AG, you'd better make damn sure it derails the confirmation.