whatthehey78 said:
Was always a "Pro Lifer". Today, I wish the Republicans would drop the argument altogether and instead:
Turn the matter entirely over to Mom's creator for judgment and her conscience to deal with personally.
Give it time. When the euphoria wears off reason will kick in, by F16 standards at least.unmade bed said:
Pence is not wrong for his concerns on this issue but most everyone's too high on Trump Won Euphoria to care.
Pence finally stood up to Trump and did his constitutional duty. He can be proud that in a pool of many, he kept his integrity in tact.damiond said:
pence is a spineless traitor
Somebody famous once said "elections have consequences". If you like your GOP-e you can keep your GOP-e. We just aren't going to stuff the cabinet positions with GOP-e types working to subvert Trump's agenda this time around.PanzerAggie06 said:Give it time. When the euphoria wears off reason will kick in, by F16 standards at least.unmade bed said:
Pence is not wrong for his concerns on this issue but most everyone's too high on Trump Won Euphoria to care.
PanzerAggie06 said:Jesus Christ.Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:The Kraken said:Spineless? He was a loyal soldier but in the end stood up to Trump's ridiculous requests. He's many times the man you will ever be...if you are even a man, or anything beyond a bot troll.damiond said:
pence is a spineless traitor
is pence your father? i think pence sucks he is a fake. he is a deep state stooge.
Pence is Deep State now. If I had written that on Jan 5th 2021 I would have been permanently banned from F16 for blasphemy. The man stands up to Dear Leader once and its off to the Gulags.
Pence has no reason to open his mouth. He needs to go away. He is not part of this administration. Trump should get his picks confirmed like other presidents do.TJaggie14 said:
I don't get the hate for Pence. As far as I can see he hasn't come out against Trump (like Cheney).
I'll use Jebus anyway I please.Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:PanzerAggie06 said:Jesus Christ.Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:The Kraken said:Spineless? He was a loyal soldier but in the end stood up to Trump's ridiculous requests. He's many times the man you will ever be...if you are even a man, or anything beyond a bot troll.damiond said:
pence is a spineless traitor
is pence your father? i think pence sucks he is a fake. he is a deep state stooge.
Pence is Deep State now. If I had written that on Jan 5th 2021 I would have been permanently banned from F16 for blasphemy. The man stands up to Dear Leader once and its off to the Gulags.
don't use the lords name in vain.
mike pence is a deep state stooge because he voted to pass the Trans Pacific Partnership. he is a deep state stooge because he sold out the american worker. he is a fake because he acts like he cares.
Sharpshooter said:
WTF is wrong with you Indiana?
93MarineHorn said:
Pence needs to go ahead and take a seat next to Liz Cheney in the "people who's opinions are no longer relevant" section.
LMCane said:93MarineHorn said:
Pence needs to go ahead and take a seat next to Liz Cheney in the "people who's opinions are no longer relevant" section.
ADAM KINZINGER!!!
Pence was the in charge of the Covid response. the Covid czar. He does not want Kennedy delving into all that because Pence will come out looking really bad.#Mke said:
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/mike-pence-urges-senate-to-reject-rfk-jr-hhs-nomination-over-pro-abortion-stance/amp/
I assume this will get a range of interesting opinions, so wanted to share here.
What do we think? I'll hang up and listen.
RFK supports abortion including partial birth abortions and he also supports single-payer/universal healthcare from the government.TJaggie14 said:
So Pence does not want RFK to be head of HHS because of RFK's stance on abortion, that correct?
Isn't abortion up to the states? So why does it matter what the HHS says on abortion?
Tea Party said:
Pence is trying to hang onto what little relevance he has left.
That sounds absolutely nothing at all like a "neocon" or a "spineless traitor"Quote:
"For the majority of his career, RFK Jr. has defended abortion on demand during all nine months of pregnancy, supports overturning the Dobbs decision and has called for legislation to codify Roe v Wade. If confirmed, RFK, Jr. would be the most pro-abortion Republican appointed secretary of HHS in modern history," Pence said. "The pro-life movement has always looked to the Republican party to stand for life, to affirm an unborn child has a fundamental right to life which cannot be infringed."
Pence, a fierce pro-lifer, also highlighted the multiple pro-life policies enacted under Trump's first administration, including protecting health-care providers from violating their consciences by being forced to perform abortions, and multiple HHS directives and funding reallocations that supported the right to life.
"The Trump-Pence administration was unapologetically pro-life for our four years in office. There are hundreds of decisions made at HHS every day that either lead our nation toward a respect for life or away from it, and HHS under our administration always stood for life," Pence said. "I believe the nomination of RFK Jr. to serve as Secretary of HHS is an abrupt departure from the pro-life record of our administration and should be deeply concerning to millions of Pro-Life Americans who have supported the Republican Party and our nominees for decades."
whatthehey78 said:
Was always a "Pro Lifer". Today, I wish the Republicans would drop the argument altogether and instead:
Turn the matter entirely over to Mom's creator for judgment and her conscience to deal with personally.
He has a very conservative and staunchly pro-life record as a House rep and Governor, but he made the impardonable sin of not supporting Trump once.fat girlfriend said:That sounds absolutely nothing at all like a "neocon" or a "spineless traitor"Quote:
"For the majority of his career, RFK Jr. has defended abortion on demand during all nine months of pregnancy, supports overturning the Dobbs decision and has called for legislation to codify Roe v Wade. If confirmed, RFK, Jr. would be the most pro-abortion Republican appointed secretary of HHS in modern history," Pence said. "The pro-life movement has always looked to the Republican party to stand for life, to affirm an unborn child has a fundamental right to life which cannot be infringed."
Pence, a fierce pro-lifer, also highlighted the multiple pro-life policies enacted under Trump's first administration, including protecting health-care providers from violating their consciences by being forced to perform abortions, and multiple HHS directives and funding reallocations that supported the right to life.
"The Trump-Pence administration was unapologetically pro-life for our four years in office. There are hundreds of decisions made at HHS every day that either lead our nation toward a respect for life or away from it, and HHS under our administration always stood for life," Pence said. "I believe the nomination of RFK Jr. to serve as Secretary of HHS is an abrupt departure from the pro-life record of our administration and should be deeply concerning to millions of Pro-Life Americans who have supported the Republican Party and our nominees for decades."
TJaggie14 said:
So Pence does not want RFK to be head of HHS because of RFK's stance on abortion, that correct?
Isn't abortion up to the states? So why does it matter what the HHS says on abortion?
No he didn't. Someone edited a video to make it look like he did.MelvinUdall said:TJaggie14 said:
So Pence does not want RFK to be head of HHS because of RFK's stance on abortion, that correct?
Isn't abortion up to the states? So why does it matter what the HHS says on abortion?
Didn't Pence endorse Kamala or am I wrong in that remembrance?
Guitarsoup said:No he didn't. Someone edited a video to make it look like he did.MelvinUdall said:TJaggie14 said:
So Pence does not want RFK to be head of HHS because of RFK's stance on abortion, that correct?
Isn't abortion up to the states? So why does it matter what the HHS says on abortion?
Didn't Pence endorse Kamala or am I wrong in that remembrance?
#Mke said:
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/mike-pence-urges-senate-to-reject-rfk-jr-hhs-nomination-over-pro-abortion-stance/amp/
I assume this will get a range of interesting opinions, so wanted to share here.
What do we think? I'll hang up and listen.
BluHorseShu said:Pence finally stood up to Trump and did his constitutional duty. He can be proud that in a pool of many, he kept his integrity in tact.damiond said:
pence is a spineless traitor
He gained nothing and in fact suffered for his actions and he likely knew this when he made his decision. You can hate the decision, but the man did the honorable thing.
People need to think on 1 John 4:6
