Pence Urges Senate to Vote Against RFK Jr. for HHS

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3:14p, 11/15/24
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https://www.nationalreview.com/news/mike-pence-urges-senate-to-reject-rfk-jr-hhs-nomination-over-pro-abortion-stance/amp/

I assume this will get a range of interesting opinions, so wanted to share here.

What do we think? I'll hang up and listen.
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3:14p, 11/15/24
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Who?
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3:14p, 11/15/24
pence is a spineless traitor
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3:15p, 11/15/24
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Mike Pence…where good conversation goes to die.
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3:15p, 11/15/24
One of the best outcomes of Trump's loss in 2020 was that traitor pence is now a nobody.
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3:16p, 11/15/24
Pence is trying to hang onto what little relevance he has left.
Learn about the Texas Nationalist Movement
https://tnm.me
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3:16p, 11/15/24
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Pence is a neocon.

Absolutely only cares what he says.

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3:17p, 11/15/24
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So Pence does not want RFK to be head of HHS because of RFK's stance on abortion, that correct?

Isn't abortion up to the states? So why does it matter what the HHS says on abortion?
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3:17p, 11/15/24
Unless RFK is advocating for government funded abortions, his stance on abortion doesn't matter. It's a states issue now.
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In reply to damiond • 3:24p, 11/15/24
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damiond said:
pence is a spineless traitor
And very irrelevant.........
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In reply to The Banned • 3:24p, 11/15/24
The Banned said:
Unless RFK is advocating for government funded abortions, his stance on abortion doesn't matter. It's a states issue now.


Wrong! HHS has a ton of sway on abortion policy.

RFK must disavow his past positions on abortion!

I'm Gipper
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3:24p, 11/15/24
Pence was likely a necessary part of Trump's victory in 2016. His relevance to the 2024 Republican party is limited, at best.
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In reply to Im Gipper • 3:25p, 11/15/24
Im Gipper said:
The Banned said:
Unless RFK is advocating for government funded abortions, his stance on abortion doesn't matter. It's a states issue now.


Wrong! HHS has a ton of sway on abortion policy.

RFK must disavow his past positions on abortion!


Like what? How do they impact Texas, for example
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In reply to texagbeliever • 3:27p, 11/15/24
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texagbeliever said:
One of the best outcomes of Trump's loss in 2020 was that traitor pence is now a nobody.
Remember the spineless losers on F16 that said he was a respectable patriot and was just doing his duty?

Absolute clowns. The guy is a turn coat swamp sucking scumbag. Glad he is irrelevant.
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In reply to The Banned • 3:29p, 11/15/24
One example:

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2022/08/26/hhs-takes-action-strengthen-access-reproductive-health-care-including-abortion-care.html

RFK just needs to say he's "team Trump" on this issue!

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In reply to Im Gipper • 3:29p, 11/15/24
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Im Gipper said:
The Banned said:
Unless RFK is advocating for government funded abortions, his stance on abortion doesn't matter. It's a states issue now.


Wrong! HHS has a ton of sway on abortion policy.

RFK must disavow his past positions on abortion!


You think a trump admin is going to let RFK jr dictate abortion policy?
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In reply to Tom Kazansky 2012 • 3:30p, 11/15/24
Let's hope not!

Whats wrong with wanting him to disavow his previous positions?

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3:31p, 11/15/24
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WTF is wrong with you Indiana?
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In reply to #Mke • 3:31p, 11/15/24
I'm quite confident that Pence voted for Harris. He has no stroke whatsoever.
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3:31p, 11/15/24
Pence needs to go ahead and take a seat next to Liz Cheney in the "people who's opinions are no longer relevant" section.
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In reply to Im Gipper • 3:33p, 11/15/24
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Im Gipper said:
Let's hope not!

Whats wrong with wanting him to disavow his previous positions?
It is unnecessary. If it was needed for him to do his job, or if there was campaigning still going on then maybe he would need to.

He's on the team, the job is done, time to stfu about positions and work. A disavowel changes nothing.

If he goes out and Trump and Vance allow him to start aborting babies in a ditch on a youtube video, it will be political suicide for all on this admin, so again, it doesn't matter.
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3:34p, 11/15/24
Pence is not wrong for his concerns on this issue but most everyone's too high on Trump Won Euphoria to care.
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In reply to Tom Kazansky 2012 • 3:35p, 11/15/24
It may not matter to you, but it's import for pro life conservatives

I guarantee RFK says he will be anti abortion as Secretary.

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In reply to TJaggie14 • 3:38p, 11/15/24
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TJaggie14 said:
So Pence does not want RFK to be head of HHS because of RFK's stance on abortion, that correct?

Isn't abortion up to the states? So why does it matter what the HHS says on abortion?

Exactly!!
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In reply to texagbeliever • 3:38p, 11/15/24
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texagbeliever said:
One of the best outcomes of Trump's loss in 2020 was that traitor pence is now a nobody.


Add Flake and the other pearl-clutchers too. Homeless eunuchs wandering in the desert.
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In reply to damiond • 3:39p, 11/15/24
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damiond said:
pence is a spineless traitor
Spineless? He was a loyal soldier but in the end stood up to Trump's ridiculous requests. He's many times the man you will ever be...if you are even a man, or anything beyond a bot troll.
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3:54p, 11/15/24
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Nobody cares
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4:00p, 11/15/24
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Pence has had his 15 mins. He is a typical GOP-e uniparty drone who brings nothing of value to any discussion. He can go on CNN now and talk to people who still care what he has to say.
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In reply to The Kraken • 4:03p, 11/15/24
The Kraken said:
damiond said:
pence is a spineless traitor
Spineless? He was a loyal soldier but in the end stood up to Trump's ridiculous requests. He's many times the man you will ever be...if you are even a man, or anything beyond a bot troll.


is pence your father? i think pence sucks he is a fake. he is a deep state stooge.
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In reply to Im Gipper • 4:03p, 11/15/24
So federal funding, which I already noted. If he does that, then yes, he is a failure. Outside of that, not much they can do.
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4:05p, 11/15/24
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I don't get the hate for Pence. As far as I can see he hasn't come out against Trump (like Cheney). I don't see anything in the news where Pence has badmouthed Trump. There is no tell all book about the evil of Trump that Pence has written.

I get they had a falling out over certifying the electorate (Trump believed Pence could throw out the electorates, and Pence believed that was outside the scope of his role/job).
Besides that, Pence was a loyal soldier for Trump and helped bring in the evangelical Christian vote in 2016.

Like I said earlier idk what the head of HHS has to do with abortions because it's a states issue now.
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In reply to Detmersdislocatedshoulder • 4:05p, 11/15/24
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:
The Kraken said:
damiond said:
pence is a spineless traitor
Spineless? He was a loyal soldier but in the end stood up to Trump's ridiculous requests. He's many times the man you will ever be...if you are even a man, or anything beyond a bot troll.


is pence your father? i think pence sucks he is a fake. he is a deep state stooge.
Jesus Christ.

Pence is Deep State now. If I had written that on Jan 5th 2021 I would have been permanently banned from F16 for blasphemy. The man stands up to Dear Leader once and its off to the Gulags.
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4:06p, 11/15/24
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RFK did more to get Trump elected in 2024 than what Pence did in 2020, even though Pence was Trump's running mate.

Pence just needs to sit down and shut up.
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4:08p, 11/15/24
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Was always a "Pro Lifer". Today, I wish the Republicans would drop the argument altogether and instead:

Turn the matter entirely over to Mom's creator for judgment and her conscience to deal with personally.
Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and myself founded empires; but upon what foundation did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force! But Jesus Christ founded His upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him. - Napoleon Bonaparte
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