Well, that.Not Coach Jimbo said:
Toyotas $10,000 truck.
Not available in the US due to regulations, this problem is almost completely caused by the goverment.
And there's also that it looks like dog**** and Americans won't buy it.
Well, that.Not Coach Jimbo said:
Toyotas $10,000 truck.
Not available in the US due to regulations, this problem is almost completely caused by the goverment.
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Dr. Jurachart Jongusuk, the chief engineer for Toyota's IMV platform, described the truck to Road & Track as "70 percent finished," with the customer completing the final 30 percent.
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The truck's rear deck features bolt holes so customers can attach whatever they want. Toyota Motor Thailand will also direct owners to over 100 accessory manufacturers who can upfit the Hilux Champ.
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It comes with a just flat deck when unequipped, with prices ranging from 459,000 to 577,000 baht ($13,200 to $16,600 at today's exchange rate). That cost will grow depending on what's put on the back.
Ag with kids said:Well, that.Not Coach Jimbo said:
Toyotas $10,000 truck.
Not available in the US due to regulations, this problem is almost completely caused by the goverment.
And there's also that it looks like dog**** and Americans won't buy it.
Seriously. I much dislike driving my wife's G80... it's a spy machine with nannies in all the unoccupied seats. Living room on wheels, I tell her.Sims said:
Cars also used to get you from point a to point b.
Now the car drives itself while you watch a movie with 7.1 surround and your heated massaging seat melts your cares away.
Maybe they need a lower end vehicle that accomplishes a task in a pragmatic way.
Throw in AC on these things and I would buy one for every family member, just to have a truck around when I need it. Or people don't need to use mine. This is what we need, more fit for purpose.Ag with kids said:Well, that.Not Coach Jimbo said:
Toyotas $10,000 truck.
Not available in the US due to regulations, this problem is almost completely caused by the goverment.
And there's also that it looks like dog**** and Americans won't buy it.
But the IMS bearing....kaboom!JamesPShelley said:Seriously. I much dislike driving my wife's G80... it's a spy machine with nannies in all the unoccupied seats. Living room on wheels, I tell her.Sims said:
Cars also used to get you from point a to point b.
Now the car drives itself while you watch a movie with 7.1 surround and your heated massaging seat melts your cares away.
Maybe they need a lower end vehicle that accomplishes a task in a pragmatic way.
My '98 986... PS and ABS. Now, that's pragmatic.
I have no idea what brand you're talking about.VitruvianAg said:Damien Thorn said:They are good cars.AggieDruggist89 said:
Used Toyota for the win.
Ahh, no, Toyota quality has been on a downturn the last 5-7 years...best car, world wide, is not a Toyota, and you all know who makes them...they also happen to be the only manufacturer that is driving down cost, increasing quality and profits and reducing the price of automobiles simultaneously...and the leader in innovation...
But then, I've never liked Toyotas in general, though they have a couple models I could be forced to buy, non are cars and definitely not sport cars. Maybe an FJ, drove one for a long weekend a few weeks ago...meh ride!
This, a Nissan Hardbody, or a damn Kei Truck are literally all I'm asking for. These current minivans with a truck bed, (Ram, Silverado, F-150), are ridiculous.Not Coach Jimbo said:
Toyotas $10,000 truck.
Not available in the US due to regulations, this problem is almost completely caused by the goverment.
Can Toyota remedy those issues in near future? Most likely.numetalbizkitaggie said:
To be fair, the new generation Tundra has a big transmission issue and the new generation Tacoma has a big engine issue. New Toyota's aren't quite the same.
Sure, but it took them two years to figure out the Tundra issue and haven't solved it yet. I'm expecting the same issues with the new 4runner since it's mostly just a Tacoma.AggieDruggist89 said:Can Toyota remedy those issues in near future? Most likely.numetalbizkitaggie said:
To be fair, the new generation Tundra has a big transmission issue and the new generation Tacoma has a big engine issue. New Toyota's aren't quite the same.
I am a Toyota fan, so I'm not trying to spread fake news. The Tundra and Tacoma do make up approximately 15-20% of Toyota USA's sales year over year. Lexus USA sold 224,308 last year total. The Tundra and Tacoma alone sold 272,369. We are talking about a significant amount of their sales here.Quote:
Do those 2 trucks define the entire Toyota line? Should the quality issues in those 2 trucks be enough reasons to stay away from other Toyotas?? It's almost like fake news.
The GR Corolla has issues, I'll give the new gen Prius props (so far), and the Camry, Rav haven't been re-designed like that yet AFAIK. The newly designed Toyota's are having issues; that's what we are saying.Quote:
How about Corolla, Camry, Rav4, Highlanders, Prius, Lexus lines...
Most American MEN would rather drive this truck than that one...Not Coach Jimbo said:Ag with kids said:Well, that.Not Coach Jimbo said:
Toyotas $10,000 truck.
Not available in the US due to regulations, this problem is almost completely caused by the goverment.
And there's also that it looks like dog**** and Americans won't buy it.
Spoken like someone with an 80k pavement princess... makes trucks work vehicles again.
Fleet truck buyers don't care about looks, but they do have some versions that are dressed up a little more for you more delicate types.
Sims said:
Cars also used to get you from point a to point b.
Now the car drives itself while you watch a movie with 7.1 surround and your heated massaging seat melts your cares away.
Maybe they need a lower end vehicle that accomplishes a task in a pragmatic way.
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Do those 2 trucks define the entire Toyota line? Should the quality issues in those 2 trucks be enough reasons to stay away from other Toyotas??
Not the feed or care /husband_of_horse_wife_and_kidHagen95 said:Horses are cheap these days.Tea Party said:Bring back carbs and the only electronics in a vehicle is the AM radio.Sims said:
Cars also used to get you from point a to point b.
Now the car drives itself while you watch a movie with 7.1 surround and your heated massaging seat melts your cares away.
Maybe they need a lower end vehicle that accomplishes a task in a pragmatic way.
I'm only somewhat joking as I would seriously entertain a bare bones vehicle that could survive an EMP .
You are so wrong. If you are saying that Tesla is the best car out there, sure they are cheap. But they are expensive as HELL to repair and you can't buy their parts. They also don't last as long as Toyotas. EV's aren't even in the same class.VitruvianAg said:Damien Thorn said:They are good cars.AggieDruggist89 said:
Used Toyota for the win.
Ahh, no, Toyota quality has been on a downturn the last 5-7 years...best car, world wide, is not a Toyota, and you all know who makes them...they also happen to be the only manufacturer that is driving down cost, increasing quality and profits and reducing the price of automobiles simultaneously...and the leader in innovation...
But then, I've never liked Toyotas in general, though they have a couple models I could be forced to buy, non are cars and definitely not sport cars. Maybe an FJ, drove one for a long weekend a few weeks ago...meh ride!
That Toyota will repair quickly because they have to.numetalbizkitaggie said:
To be fair, the new generation Tundra has a big transmission issue and the new generation Tacoma has a big engine issue. New Toyota's aren't quite the same.
We had a Corolla in our family for 20+ years. Three different drivers. It was still running strong when we finally traded it in.LOYAL AG said:
Now we buy them for six and drive them for 3 when we should buy them for five and drive them for 10.
You left out quicker depreciation, worse reliability and durability.Teslag said:Quote:
Do those 2 trucks define the entire Toyota line? Should the quality issues in those 2 trucks be enough reasons to stay away from other Toyotas??
Like it or not, those two models make a significant part of their domestic sales. I was recently in the market for a mid-size truck. I assumed that meant Tacoma. I drove a few. But their recent engine issues, the dated interior, and the overall cheap feel of it left me choosing a Colorado. The Colorado just offered more of everything. More power, more torque, nicer interior, better ride, better look (subjective), more amenities, and similar price.
so basically you're saying 80% Toyotas are still pretty good then, minus GR Corrolla... too bad about their trucks. Unfortunately/fortunately I don't need/use truck as a DD and will stay away from Toyota truck and truck based SUVs for now. And I never buy new/used first year model vehicles. You know, there are ways to navigate and be smart on shopping for cars.numetalbizkitaggie said:Sure, but it took them two years to figure out the Tundra issue and haven't solved it yet. I'm expecting the same issues with the new 4runner since it's mostly just a Tacoma.AggieDruggist89 said:Can Toyota remedy those issues in near future? Most likely.numetalbizkitaggie said:
5 To be fair, the new generation Tundra has a big transmission issue and the new generation Tacoma has a big engine issue. New Toyota's aren't quite the same.I am a Toyota fan, so I'm not trying to spread fake news. The Tundra and Tacoma do make up approximately 15-20% of Toyota USA's sales year over year. Lexus USA sold 224,308 last year total. The Tundra and Tacoma alone sold 272,369. We are talking about a significant amount of their sales here.Quote:
Do those 2 trucks define the entire Toyota line? Should the quality issues in those 2 trucks be enough reasons to stay away from other Toyotas?? It's almost like fake news.The GR Corolla has issues, I'll give the new gen Prius props (so far), and the Camry, Rav haven't been re-designed like that yet AFAIK. The newly designed Toyota's are having issues; that's what we are saying.Quote:
How about Corolla, Camry, Rav4, Highlanders, Prius, Lexus lines...
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You left out quicker depreciation, worse reliability and durability.
AggieDruggist89 said:
Used Toyota for the win.
Right. This one year and one engine will completely redefine the automobile quality war. Chevy has surpassed Toyota and now they're the best in the world. You go.Teslag said:Quote:
You left out quicker depreciation, worse reliability and durability.
That was true in the past. Not in 2024. Hence why I originally defaulted to the Tacoma. The GM 2.7 Turbo is far more reliable/durable and a better engine than the Toyota 2.4 Turbo in the current Tacoma.