People are tired of being lied to

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There is a clip floating around of Jordan Peterson explaining this to a feminist reporter and you can see the horror in her face when she realizes he is right. I think more and more people are waking up to the idea to your career is not the most important thing in your life. We are all replaceable cogs in the corporate wheel. Where you are non-replaceable is in your family. That is where the joy and love exists that will sustain you.
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The problem wirh progressivism is that it starts with the premise that we are smarter and better than past generations. Well, since that's a wrong assumption, every decision made from that lense is going to end up worse. Hopefully some are waking up.
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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rocky the dog said:


All the hate is from their physical, mental and spiritual shortcomings.
They want us to be miserable like them.
pdc093
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That's so incredibly sad.
Yukon Cornelius
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"I wAnT To Be TrEatEd JUsT LiKe MeN"

Gets treated like men.

"ThIS SUcKs"
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Quote:

There is a clip floating around of Jordan Peterson explaining this to a feminist reporter and you can see the horror in her face when she realizes he is right.
I would like to see that if anyone has a link...
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Owlagdad said:

rocky the dog said:


All the hate is from their physical, mental and spiritual shortcomings.
They want us to be miserable like them.
No Spin Ag
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There's always examples of failures in life, and that woman is one of them.

There's plenty of women in her exact situation living their dream, and they all have their internal happy meter as high as the most 50s living counterpart.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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Owlagdad said:

rocky the dog said:


All the hate is from their physical, mental and spiritual shortcomings.
They want us to be miserable like them.


Gets far more ancient than that.
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No Spin Ag said:

There's always examples of failures in life, and that woman is one of them.

There's plenty of women in her exact situation living their dream, and they all have their internal happy meter as high as the most 50s living counterpart.
On a societal scale its just not true, otherwise, depression rates in women, single women, and working women, wouldn't be significantly higher than that period.
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This isn't something an election or two has any hope of fixing. This is part of the modern American ethos and it's going to require massive against-the-grain cultural turnaround, as the oligarchs of our country will be trying their damndest to convince everyone of the opposite.
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Link to the JP clip?
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Owlagdad said:

rocky the dog said:


All the hate is from their physical, mental and spiritual shortcomings.
They want us to be miserable like them.
I think Leftist leadership drives this because they know that as long as they aren't blamed directly for it, miserable people are more likely to vote for them. It's that simple. Lonely, single women vote for them in huge numbers, so how do they create more lonely, single women? Tear down the family, marginalize and delegitimize men in relationships and allow full abortion rights.
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No Spin Ag said:

There's always examples of failures in life, and that woman is one of them.

There's plenty of women in her exact situation living their dream, and they all have their internal happy meter as high as the most 50s living counterpart.
BS...and you showed your cards when you tagged her as a failure. But goodness what a stupid comment. That's like saying "there are plenty of people doing fine right now, so inflation isn't a problem."

Show me one stat that shows women's mental health on the aggregate has been improving over time.
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Heineken-Ashi said:

No Spin Ag said:

There's always examples of failures in life, and that woman is one of them.

There's plenty of women in her exact situation living their dream, and they all have their internal happy meter as high as the most 50s living counterpart.
On a societal scale its just not true, otherwise, depression rates in women, single women, and working women, wouldn't be significantly higher than that period.


I didn't say they're a majority, just that they haven't failed at life.

I would want a closer look at the demographics of the women self reporting. Typically, it's extremely common for single women in college to report depression if they're being polled in school, and I'd want to know if they get factored in those polls, which could skew results.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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Yukon Cornelius said:

Owlagdad said:

rocky the dog said:


All the hate is from their physical, mental and spiritual shortcomings.
They want us to be miserable like them.


Gets far more ancient than that.
No Spin Ag
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tk111 said:

No Spin Ag said:

There's always examples of failures in life, and that woman is one of them.

There's plenty of women in her exact situation living their dream, and they all have their internal happy meter as high as the most 50s living counterpart.
BS...and you showed your cards when you tagged her as a failure. But goodness what a stupid comment. That's like saying "there are plenty of people doing fine right now, so inflation isn't a problem."

Show me one stat that shows women's mental health on the aggregate has been improving over time.


I thing this thread was to show how Feminists are wrong? If they're wrong, then they didn't do things "the right way," and if you do something wrong you didn't do it right. How off is the use of "failure" in that context?
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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Bro you're normally more clear headed then this.

Millions of years of evolution placing women with their babies has been upended and everyone is suffering the consequences of this duplicitous decision forced down our throats by a bunch of bitter evil women.
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No Spin Ag said:

There's always examples of failures in life, and that woman is one of them.

There's plenty of women in her exact situation living their dream, and they all have their internal happy meter as high as the most 50s living counterpart.


women have a much higher propensity for mental illness which is sky rocketing over the last 4-5 decades maybe it is because they have shunned what god created them to do.

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BusterAg said:

Link to the JP clip?


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pdc093 said:

That's so incredibly sad.
I have all kinds of thoughts about how this woman is right in her assessment........ but I also think that her honesty is so greatly needed and appreciated. It just makes me want to pray for her. It's not too late to get married. It might not be everything she wanted at her age, but there are Godly, good, single older men out there that would be perfectly happy with her. Our churches should help facilitate matchmaking for single women who want husbands.
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She looks like she makes excellent sandwiches.
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For those of us with daughters here -- what is preferable -- be honest:

1) Daughter with great career and 0-1 children to carry on your legacy

2) Daughter with an avg career and 2-4 kids, but that is more focused on raising children than work. But good chance of your legacy being carried on.

3) Daughter whose career revolves around the care of her 4 OR MORE children and the home that her successful husband provides the resources for? An absolute certainty your legacy and progeny lasts generations.

You guys know my preference is 3.
Tswizsle
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most modern western women are trash
William Foster
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No Spin Ag said:

There's always examples of failures in life, and that woman is one of them.

There's plenty of women in her exact situation living their dream, and they all have their internal happy meter as high as the most 50s living counterpart.
I don't know man...I've known A LOT of driven, highly successful boss women in my industry, but I can't think of a single one that comes across nearly as happy and fulfilled as the family woman that is doing the low paying admin or acctg gig at the same company just to help supplement the family income or the avg stay at home mom I know.

I would be very careful about making your career your pursuit of happiness and fulfillment...and I know women who were very clearly tricked into going "all in" in their careers. Eventually that sh** is gonna fade.
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Silent For Too Long said:

Bro you're normally more clear headed then this.

Millions of years of evolution placing women with their babies has been upended and everyone is suffering the consequences of this duplicitous decision forced down our throats by a bunch of bitter evil women.


Okay, on that, I couldn't agree more. My thing is, women can't be forced to live a life that, although was the norm forever, like to said, then the rest of us (society) need to accept it and evolve around it.

Don't get me wrong, modern Feminists about the ever living f*k out of me, but that doesn't mean some are genuinely happy, and those that aren't, that's no one's fault but their own.

What I've learned, and come to agree fully with, with this board is the this country gives everyone an equal opportunity to fulfill their dreams, even if it takes more than one try. That's why I believe that if women, and men (there's more and more every day) that choose to be single, yet say they're depressed, that needs to be looked into. If it's chemical, even being happily married with children wouldn't keep them from being depressed, but if it's do to situations and choices, sorry, but that's on them.

And, hey, thanks for calling me out. I really appreciate and needed that.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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TheEternalOptimist said:

For those of us with daughters here -- what is preferable -- be honest:

1) Daughter with great career and 0-1 children to carry on your legacy

2) Daughter with an avg career and 2-4 kids, but that is more focused on raising children than work. But good chance of your legacy being carried on.

3) Daughter whose career revolves around the care of her 4 OR MORE children and the home that her successful husband provides the resources for? An absolute certainty your legacy and progeny lasts generations.

You guys know my preference is 3.
#3...but not for my sake and my "legacy."
No Spin Ag
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William Foster said:

No Spin Ag said:

There's always examples of failures in life, and that woman is one of them.

There's plenty of women in her exact situation living their dream, and they all have their internal happy meter as high as the most 50s living counterpart.
I don't know man...I've known A LOT of driven, highly successful boss women in my industry, but I can't think of a single one that comes across nearly as happy and fulfilled as the family woman that is doing the low paying admin or acctg gig at the same company just to help supplement the family income or the avg stay at home mom I know.

I would be very careful about making your career your pursuit of happiness and fulfillment...and I know women who were very clearly tricked into going "all in" in their careers. Eventually that sh** is gonna fade.


I've known them too, and I agree, they don't come across in the ways that you and I have come to see, and expect, with family women, but that's the impression they give.

I thought my old boss, and her boss, were like you said, then I caught up with them together at the mall hanging out and they seemed like entirely different people. They reminded me of another boss of mine who was in the military. From 8-5 he presented himself stern and hard to the staff. When he shared some of his Facebook pics, he looked like an entirely different person. I didn't know he even knew how to smile.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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It's funny that young progressives like her will ***** up and down about how boomers had it so easy in the 50's-70's because everything was affordable comparative to wages and pine for it, but they'll flat out reject all of the societal norms and policies that made it that way while also pushing for evermore of the socialist and progressive policies that got us to the exact things they're *****ing about.
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The mystery over why human brains have shrunk over timeThe mystery over why human brains have shrunk over timejeremy said:

The problem wirh progressivism is that it starts with the premise that we are smarter and better than past generations. Well, since that's a wrong assumption, every decision made from that lense is going to end up worse. Hopefully some are waking up.
The mystery over why human brains have shrunk over time
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  • In other words, as smaller and better organized brains were able to perform more complex computations, metabolically expensive larger brains simply became unnecessary.
Maybe their premise above was wrong. Maybe we are rapidly approaching "Idiocracy".
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.โ€
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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FIDO95 said:

BusterAg said:

Link to the JP clip?



I watched the clip. I didn't really see in "horror" in her face. If some women chose career over family, so be it. I think most can manage both if they so choose.
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carry on your legacy

I want my children to have children for their own fulfillment
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We are supposed to have family and a community of people around to support us that share similar beliefs. Sebastian Junger's Tribe goes into how humans have interacted for thousands of years and how in the past 100 we started getting away from what is natural.

My wife, kids, and I have never been happier with our life where my wife does not work, we attend church where we are in a few church groups, and have friends with similar beliefs. We have had several of our friends see how are lives are and the wife has stopped working or started working a job with less hours. Luckily most are in a position to do this and their kids have said how much they prefer their mom not working.

I prefer to be in control of what is being taught to my kids, we live in a conservative district and they do a great job but still trust my wife more than someone else to raise my kids. She takes great pleasure in raising good children as well
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Tswizsle said:

most modern western women are trash

Thanks for your comments Mr Biden.
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