zag213004 said:Wyoming Aggie said:zag213004 said:Wyoming Aggie said:texagbeliever said:Danny Vermin said:
It doesn't happen very often but the last time someone said something to me about a Trump hat I was wearing, I took a different approach.
I was at store a while back and this woman and her husband were next to me and she something like I can't believe you support a man like Trump. I replied that I can't believe you are supporting someone who slept her way to the top and has the IQ of driftwood. This went on for a couple minutes and I finally said if you say another word , im going to beat your husband's ass right here and now. His eyes got big and he grabbed her hand walked off. Hopefully that guy will keep her ignorant trap shut from now on.
1. This didn't happen
2. This is dumb.
3. This response shows how insecure you are. Who cares if some woman gives you grief. She isn't a threat. Make your points and move on with life. If she follows and harrasses that is a different story.
Apparently you're insecure if you stand up for yourself when you're being intimidated for simply existing.
This is why our country has gone the direction it has gone. The left uses intimidation tactics with impunity.
You know what that lady learned that day? She learned to shut her ****ing mouth. I promise she'll never do it again.
We need more people standing their ground when unhinged leftists feel the need to intimidate.
Your Political opinions are not exempt from criticism. As you express yourself politically so can people that disagree with you. The line is crossed when one threatens to silence the other with violence. THAT is intimidation.
As wrong as it is for Danny to threaten an associate of the person expressing political criticism with violence, it is equally wrong for someone to say to Danny "put that hat away if I see that hat again I'm going to punch your wife"
It's ironic that you say the left uses intimidation tactics when you turn right around explained how Danny used intimidation (via a threat) to shut her up.
Nobody has a right to come up to you and get in your personal space. If someone came up to me unsolicited and started going off about who I'm voting for, I am going to assume that they are crazy and will look to diffuse the situation.
I'm not saying popping off and throwing punches immediately is the best course of action. That being said, merely threatening to them that you will stand your ground is usually enough to diffuse the situation.
Serious question, if some random person came up to you and started going off on you, would you not assume the person is mentally unstable?
Given that, I think threatening violence and that you will stand your ground is a perfectly acceptable response.
Why? Because sane people don't verbally assault random people.
I don't see how this is such a weird response to some of you people. NOBODY has a right to get in my face and confront me. I don't know the person's motives, if they have a weapon and/or intend to do harm. I don't know them from Adam. You're damn right I will threaten to do harm if I am confronted by a random mentally unstable person.
He said a woman and her husband were next to him in a store. So to me that means they were shopping in the same area or they were line checking out. There was NO indication she "came up to him" and got in his physical space as you stated. She started expressing herself after seeing him express himself politically. And he engaged back. During that exchange he never indicated she was threatening him and/or using fighting words, in his personal space within the store, impeding his ability to move or express himself politically (even though it was within the confines of a private business). All he said was she was next to him, started a conversation that he engaged in for a few minutes which was ended by him saying if she said one more word that he would physically assault her husband (which based on the story had not engaged in the political exchange between the woman and Danny)
What ground did he need to defend. She wasn't pushing him out physically, nor did she make physical contact with him or made threats to committing physical violence. she was challenging his political speech (the hat) with her own political speech.
Did she make contact with him? How did she verbally assault him.
Texas Penal Code, Title 5, Section 22.01
ASSAULT. (a) A person commits an offense if the person:
(2) intentionally or knowingly threatens another with imminent bodily injury, including the person's spouse;
Did she do that to him? It seems from his own testimony that HE committed this offense. (I understand he could live in a different state and thus the Texas penal code does not apply but many other states have similar statutes)
I was speaking more in terms of leftists going out of their way to confront random Republicans. Like the OP, this stuff happens ALL THE TIME from the left. And again, I'm not a Republican. But I particularly despise leftists as they are the ones being hateful and aggressive almost 100% of the time.
Just because someone is wearing political paraphernalia or has a yard sign supporting a candidate doesn't give anyone the right to engage that person in what is obviously a combative manner. They are looking for a fight. Political expression does NOT equal open season to call out a person.
Let me be clear in how I would handle the situation...
I would tell them politely that I am not interested in debating. If they proceed, I would ask them to back the **** off. If that doesn't work, threatening physical violence would be my next and last option. Because at that point, they ARE harassing you.
Again, nobody has a RIGHT to confront you in what is obviously a combative nature. You are looking for an argument/fight at that point. People have a right to be left TF alone.