BenFiasco14 said:FL_Ag1998 said:BenFiasco14 said:FL_Ag1998 said:
Bottom line
1) WFH works fine for some, not for all. Not every situation is the same and it doesn't come down to just age and fear driving the back to work push, despite what Infinity Ag says.
2) if there is constant grab-assing and screwing around in your office that's just a plain and simple lack of leadership in your branch. Totally different issue.
3) yes IT nerds, there is tremendous value in actual face to face social time amongst team members. I don't mean hours long chit chats and it doesn't need to be every day. But yes it is important for a functioning team.
4) no one forces you to live where you live nor take a job hours from there. Your choice in both of those. Live with your choice.
On Point 4, I find this attitude odd coming from this board that generally and rightfully so warns against the dangers of living in the city. It's considered virtue around here to live "in the country" away from all the liberals and failed democrats policies. Yet at the same time we want to discourage this and force normal people to live in some blue hellscape so they can be closer to their desk?
Not at all. I've said the whole time that there are plenty of jobs which can be done remotely. But if you don't have one of those jobs, and you need to be in the office for your job to be done effectively, then you have a choice. If you value living remotely, that may require a long commute to work. That's a choice, a sacrifice that you choose to make. And if you value living remotely enough then it'll be a worthwhile sacrifice.
But some people want their cake and wanna eat it too. They want to perform jobs which by their nature require an office presence, but they also want to live remotely an hour and a half from the office and reserve the right to complain about the commute.
I agree with you and should've clarified my response wasn't necessarily directed at you, but more just a general statement to "the board". These threads are always interesting because there's a lot of folks here I agree with on most issues yet they are vehemently anti work from home.
I would like to provide a counter point to the statements in here talking about the impact WFH can have on economies where work centers are (restaurants etc). Couldn't WFH be a blessing in disguise that can maybe decentralize where we have all the activity? In other words, if people aren't coming into Dallas or Houston as often, why not focus more on placing amenities farther away from the city core instead of focusing on high rises and the like? What if this could resurrect formerly dead small towns with small businesses - coffee shops for remote workers to work at and a way to reinvigorate formerly dead local economies.
All very valid points and thoughts worth considering. I just push back on the posters who want to treat every job the same and act like work from home can work for every scenario. I also tend to find from personal experience that the younger and more inexperienced the employee the less likely WFH is appropriate for them. Most want to feel some sort of connection to the team members they're working with and most don't have the personal accountability to be productive working from home.