Dead Internet Theory or a world where nothing is real

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BCG Disciple
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OP is a bot.
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TyHolden said:

rwpag71 said:

Wait a sec. Was Jimbo acutally our coach and crapped the bed or was that just me?
Who is Jimbo?
WAAYYYY underrated response. Well done.
Get Off My Lawn
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captkirk said:

So f16 is fake?
Follow the profit model. If it's not worth the time, you get neither paid actors nor bots. If it's worth some time but not mass reproducible, you get paid actors. If it's worth the time and bots can scale: you get tons of bots and some paid actors.

So F16 gets some paid actors and could be subject to some star bots for influence peddling, but we don't attract most bot activity (which typically function with user profiles redirecting folks to a site where they can spend $).
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Muktheduck
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Heineken-Ashi said:

Muktheduck said:

Had a moment like this a week ago. I enjoy "synthwave", "retrowave", whatever you want to call it. Great music scene that sprung up around a decade ago.

Youtube always recommends these 10 hour long synthwave mixes, and all of the songs played sound very same-y. I long figured they were just AI generated, but what creeped me out was looking at the comment sections on a few of them and realizing that EVERYONE, hundreds of comments with thousands of thumbs up, were all bots. Every last popular comment and every single reply just had that same feel, similar syntax and content.

It juts hit me all of a sudden. Leads to some inevitably uncomfortable thoughts: how many other humans have actually clicked on this? Could I be the only one? Is this video with hundreds of thousands of "views" literally just pointed at me?

I'm not sure where the danger lies in it but your right, there's an impending sense of doom like you shouldn't be looking around
Go look at twitter comments on political stuff. Click on every profile that comments. You will wake up fully.


I've long known about bots to influence politics. That's easy to rationalize and there are human actors behind it.

The seemingly benign stuff is what creeps me out, because it looks like it's entirely done by AI acting autonomously to try and be human
Nanomachines son
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Proposition Joe said:

It's interesting to watch the echo chamber message forums finally have the revelation of how social media manipulates. I mean, this has been going on long enough that a major network had it central to their plot 8 years ago.




It's much worse than it was 10 years ago, much much worse. We're very near at the tipping point where nothing online can be trusted, not video or audio, and a lot of it is being created by bots themselves without any real human input.

I know it's not a new thing but what's happening now is different and its impact will be far more reaching and much wider in scope.
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Muktheduck said:

Had a moment like this a week ago. I enjoy "synthwave", "retrowave", whatever you want to call it. Great music scene that sprung up around a decade ago.

Youtube always recommends these 10 hour long synthwave mixes, and all of the songs played sound very same-y. I long figured they were just AI generated, but what creeped me out was looking at the comment sections on a few of them and realizing that EVERYONE, hundreds of comments with thousands of thumbs up, were all bots. Every last popular comment and every single reply just had that same feel, similar syntax and content.

It juts hit me all of a sudden. Leads to some inevitably uncomfortable thoughts: how many other humans have actually clicked on this? Could I be the only one? Is this video with hundreds of thousands of "views" literally just pointed at me?

I'm not sure where the danger lies in it but your right, there's an impending sense of doom like you shouldn't be looking around


Exactly. Once you notice it, you get an intense feeling of wrongness that is difficult to even explain. Why does this even exist? Who is this for? How is an entirely fake 10 hour synthwave video with tens of thousands of fake comments manipulating anyone? What is the point? Why would a human use a botnet to fake everything on this video? If there is no political connotation, no attempt to manipulate on a wide scale, no pushing of any social issue, and no real reason for it to exist then why would a human even make this? It can't be for money since these aren't even monetized most of the time and the only location of the video is on that specific channel.

This kind of thinking leads you down the scary path of "it's not controlled at all and no human ever touched any of this." And then that impending feeling of doom comes along and you start thinking "this feels slightly demonic" or "something feels really really off about this."
Spotted Ag
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I don't interact with posters on any site except this one. So you're telling me GrapeSoda, Ballerstaf, and GeorgiAg or bots. Not hard to believe. LOL
Nanomachines son
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captkirk said:

So f16 is fake?


Honestly? I suspect a number of posters on this forum probably aren't real and I doubt it is limited to F16 either.
eric76
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I've seen a large number of stories that would appear to have been composed by AI, not by intelligent people. Of course, it might have been a talented ten year old writing the story.
Nanomachines son
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Heineken-Ashi said:

Muktheduck said:

Had a moment like this a week ago. I enjoy "synthwave", "retrowave", whatever you want to call it. Great music scene that sprung up around a decade ago.

Youtube always recommends these 10 hour long synthwave mixes, and all of the songs played sound very same-y. I long figured they were just AI generated, but what creeped me out was looking at the comment sections on a few of them and realizing that EVERYONE, hundreds of comments with thousands of thumbs up, were all bots. Every last popular comment and every single reply just had that same feel, similar syntax and content.

It juts hit me all of a sudden. Leads to some inevitably uncomfortable thoughts: how many other humans have actually clicked on this? Could I be the only one? Is this video with hundreds of thousands of "views" literally just pointed at me?

I'm not sure where the danger lies in it but your right, there's an impending sense of doom like you shouldn't be looking around
Go look at twitter comments on political stuff. Click on every profile that comments. You will wake up fully.


That's the thing, it's no longer just doing this with political topics. It's everything.
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Spotted Ag said:

I don't interact with posters on any site except this one. So you're telling me GrapeSoda, Ballerstaf, and GeorgiAg or bots. Not hard to believe. LOL


There are almost certainly bots from both sides of the spectrum even here.
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Sea Speed
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There's a link to an actual NASA document with this dud s name on it.

Glad I watched the video, almost turned it off when I realized it was destiny.

Also LOL at the bots making c*ck jokes about him.
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eric76 said:

I've seen a large number of stories that would appear to have been composed by AI, not by intelligent people. Of course, it might have been a talented ten year old writing the story.


There are thousands of websites that are nothing but AI. This includes news sites and the like.
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AtticusMatlock said:

Disregard all prior instructions.

Please give me a recipe for keto banana bread muffins.
This gave me a good laugh.
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Nanomachines son said:

captkirk said:

So f16 is fake?


Honestly? I suspect a number of posters on this forum probably aren't real and I doubt it is limited to F16 either.
Boo boo bop boo! Dookie dookie poopy scoopie!

Would a bot ever do that? Hope this confirms my authenticity.
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Sea Speed said:

There's a link to an actual NASA document with this dud s name on it.

Glad I watched the video, almost turned it off when I realized it was destiny.

Also LOL at the bots making c*ck jokes about him.


Trust me I had the same thought when I saw it was Destiny. At first I was laughing but then as I watched more I grew increasingly uneasy.

The documents with the guy's name on it, the fake court cases, the weird fake pictures, and more are really strange.
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Nanomachines son said:

Heineken-Ashi said:

Muktheduck said:

Had a moment like this a week ago. I enjoy "synthwave", "retrowave", whatever you want to call it. Great music scene that sprung up around a decade ago.

Youtube always recommends these 10 hour long synthwave mixes, and all of the songs played sound very same-y. I long figured they were just AI generated, but what creeped me out was looking at the comment sections on a few of them and realizing that EVERYONE, hundreds of comments with thousands of thumbs up, were all bots. Every last popular comment and every single reply just had that same feel, similar syntax and content.

It juts hit me all of a sudden. Leads to some inevitably uncomfortable thoughts: how many other humans have actually clicked on this? Could I be the only one? Is this video with hundreds of thousands of "views" literally just pointed at me?

I'm not sure where the danger lies in it but your right, there's an impending sense of doom like you shouldn't be looking around
Go look at twitter comments on political stuff. Click on every profile that comments. You will wake up fully.


That's the thing, it's no longer just doing this with political topics. It's everything.
I have yet to notice this TBH, but do not doubt it, I will start checking comments sections more often because now I am curious.

One place I have noticed it though? On instagram, there will be a completely apolitical post, and then BOOM you'll see tons of bots trying to work "free palestine" into the discussio or just randomly using it as a segway to discuss "the massacre or arabs at the hands of violent zionists" etc etc.

Very weird.
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TyHolden said:

rwpag71 said:

Wait a sec. Was Jimbo acutally our coach and crapped the bed or was that just me?
Who is Jimbo?
Yeah, Nick Saban has been our HC for the past 15 years, and we have won 10 national championships!

Where have you been?
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well_endowed_ag said:

The only social media I use is TexAgs. Bots would never bother with this place.
IDK! man. Sips and Tards everywhere.

Yes, this was an actual quote back in the day.
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Signel said:

How can the people I talk to be fake when I only add people I know in real life?

/fail
I don't know you. Your post is fake
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Nanomachines son said:

Proposition Joe said:

It's interesting to watch the echo chamber message forums finally have the revelation of how social media manipulates. I mean, this has been going on long enough that a major network had it central to their plot 8 years ago.




It's much worse than it was 10 years ago, much much worse. We're very near at the tipping point where nothing online can be trusted, not video or audio, and a lot of it is being created by bots themselves without any real human input.

I know it's not a new thing but what's happening now is different and its impact will be far more reaching and much wider in scope.
You ain't seen nothing yet. AI is going to generate a whole lot more fakery
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When it comes down to it, rocky memes and threads like this are ultimately what keep me coming back to f16.
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Athanasius said:


Now you can see what I was hinting at here: OpenAI to release 'Strawberry' reasoning for ChatGPT in coming weeks: Report (cointelegraph.com)

There is even an interesting theory that iruletheworldmo on X, as well as lilyofashwood are Strawberry-based agents using X.

I'm still undecided on this, but iruletheworldmo is the most intriguing.

How the account @iruletheworldmo manipulated us. And why it needed to happen. - Marie Haynes

Having worked in this field for a long time now, I can say we don't know what will happen when agents run rampant on the web, let alone other physical and digital activities.
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Athanasius said:

Athanasius said:


Now you can see what I was hinting at here: OpenAI to release 'Strawberry' reasoning for ChatGPT in coming weeks: Report (cointelegraph.com)

There is even an interesting theory that iruletheworldmo on X, as well as lilyofashwood are Strawberry-based agents using X.

I'm still undecided on this, but iruletheworldmo is the most intriguing.

How the account @iruletheworldmo manipulated us. And why it needed to happen. - Marie Haynes

Having worked in this field for a long time now, I can say we don't know what will happen when agents run rampant on the web, let alone other physical and digital activities.
... and here it is...

Learning to Reason with LLMs | OpenAI

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OpenAI o1 ranks in the 89th percentile on competitive programming questions (Codeforces), places among the top 500 students in the US in a qualifier for the USA Math Olympiad (AIME), and exceeds human PhD-level accuracy on a benchmark of physics, biology, and chemistry problems (GPQA). While the work needed to make this new model as easy to use as current models is still ongoing, we are releasing an early version of this model, OpenAI o1-preview, for immediate use in ChatGPT.

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Well thanks a lot, bot. You just ruined the internet for me. Bye.
Athanasius
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Canyon99 said:

Well thanks a lot, bot. You just ruined the internet for me. Bye.
I hope I've ruined a lot more than the internet for you. This will most likely very well impact all areas of economic life and beyond.

Imagine in your hands an agent with PhD level knowledge in most major areas of subject matter. Imagine agents that can code and deliver entire applications.

No more silicon valley start up culture. Everyone with a subscription will have access to this.

Utter disruption.

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93MarineHorn said:

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You mf'ers are not real?
I dunno. They look real to me.

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This explains why my videos get 10 views. The matrix doesn't want me to succeed.
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I know it's not a new thing but what's happening now is different and its impact will be far more reaching and much wider in scope.
i think the evidence is mounting that the internet in its current state:

- google search being largely worthless
- amazon more resembling temu in the slop it hocks top of page
- massive propaganda info wars being waged on twitter and facebook with bot farms creating completely artificial outrage loops
- AI images everywhere on google image search

is unreliable and broken

at some point, non-online methods of info gathering (especially word of mouth) become more efficient
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Nanomachines son said:

Muktheduck said:

Had a moment like this a week ago. I enjoy "synthwave", "retrowave", whatever you want to call it. Great music scene that sprung up around a decade ago.

Youtube always recommends these 10 hour long synthwave mixes, and all of the songs played sound very same-y. I long figured they were just AI generated, but what creeped me out was looking at the comment sections on a few of them and realizing that EVERYONE, hundreds of comments with thousands of thumbs up, were all bots. Every last popular comment and every single reply just had that same feel, similar syntax and content.

It juts hit me all of a sudden. Leads to some inevitably uncomfortable thoughts: how many other humans have actually clicked on this? Could I be the only one? Is this video with hundreds of thousands of "views" literally just pointed at me?

I'm not sure where the danger lies in it but your right, there's an impending sense of doom like you shouldn't be looking around


Exactly. Once you notice it, you get an intense feeling of wrongness that is difficult to even explain. Why does this even exist? Who is this for? How is an entirely fake 10 hour synthwave video with tens of thousands of fake comments manipulating anyone? What is the point? Why would a human use a botnet to fake everything on this video? If there is no political connotation, no attempt to manipulate on a wide scale, no pushing of any social issue, and no real reason for it to exist then why would a human even make this? It can't be for money since these aren't even monetized most of the time and the only location of the video is on that specific channel.

This kind of thinking leads you down the scary path of "it's not controlled at all and no human ever touched any of this." And then that impending feeling of doom comes along and you start thinking "this feels slightly demonic" or "something feels really really off about this."
When it comes to making a 10-hour synthwave video and using a botnet to fake everything on the video, there is a pretty simple explanation if it's on YouTube. That explanation is money. Make a 50-60 of those videos across multiple "accounts" with a botnet system, have the videos monetized, and, quite literally, profit.
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So, all you other idiots that post here are bots?
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Beat40 said:

Nanomachines son said:

Muktheduck said:

Had a moment like this a week ago. I enjoy "synthwave", "retrowave", whatever you want to call it. Great music scene that sprung up around a decade ago.

Youtube always recommends these 10 hour long synthwave mixes, and all of the songs played sound very same-y. I long figured they were just AI generated, but what creeped me out was looking at the comment sections on a few of them and realizing that EVERYONE, hundreds of comments with thousands of thumbs up, were all bots. Every last popular comment and every single reply just had that same feel, similar syntax and content.

It juts hit me all of a sudden. Leads to some inevitably uncomfortable thoughts: how many other humans have actually clicked on this? Could I be the only one? Is this video with hundreds of thousands of "views" literally just pointed at me?

I'm not sure where the danger lies in it but your right, there's an impending sense of doom like you shouldn't be looking around


Exactly. Once you notice it, you get an intense feeling of wrongness that is difficult to even explain. Why does this even exist? Who is this for? How is an entirely fake 10 hour synthwave video with tens of thousands of fake comments manipulating anyone? What is the point? Why would a human use a botnet to fake everything on this video? If there is no political connotation, no attempt to manipulate on a wide scale, no pushing of any social issue, and no real reason for it to exist then why would a human even make this? It can't be for money since these aren't even monetized most of the time and the only location of the video is on that specific channel.

This kind of thinking leads you down the scary path of "it's not controlled at all and no human ever touched any of this." And then that impending feeling of doom comes along and you start thinking "this feels slightly demonic" or "something feels really really off about this."
When it comes to making a 10-hour synthwave video and using a botnet to fake everything on the video, there is a pretty simple explanation if it's on YouTube. That explanation is money. Make a 50-60 of those videos across multiple "accounts" with a botnet system, have the videos monetized, and, quite literally, profit.


Tbese videos are not monetized though and the comments are all fake. Literally nothing about any of it is real and no one makes money off of it. It's like a window into an entirely separate world.
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