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This is where I am at.... you aren't protecting sources as they are almost all dead. If it pointed to Castro or the Soviet Union, those leaders are dead and gone. If it pointed to the mob, all of those individuals are dead and any remaining 'families' are heavily incapacitated. Even if it was to cover up gross incompetence in our intelligence or agents, none of those people are even in those positions, let alone alive.

The only thing this could be covering up is part of our government and/or government agencies were complicit or involved. That is the only scenario where any level of retribution would occur.

Seriously, what else could it be?

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I'm going with aliens. It's a more credible explanation. Or maybe underwear gnomes.

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If Trump is reelected, those files will magically disappear before January 20th.

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Pretty much expecting this. At this point, it obviously stinks to high heavens. They'll condemn you as batsh** crazy for claiming the CIA could have "possibly" had anything to do with the JFK assassination. While in the next breath fighting tooth and nail to keep those files from ever being revealed to the public. What could they possibly be hiding? And why?

The only damaging news would be federal involvement in his killing. Nothing else would even register as important (foreign actors etc etc) at this point. The ONLY thing worth hiding would be US govt involvement.

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That LBJ had JFK killed?

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Of all the crazy-ass conspiracy theories around JFK, this is the one that becomes more believable all the time. If he didn't have it done, he probably knew it was coming.

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Well, there was a good reason why he was 2-3 cars BEHIND in the motorcade.

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And that was day 3 or 4 of the Dallas visit. The prior days the media flatbed with all the cameras always drove in front of the president's limo. But not that day.

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Yep.

The whole thing starting at Love just had a "there's something wrong here" feel to it when you look at all the videos up until he gets to Dealey Plaza. Everything from where everyone was in the motorcade to the SS agents standing down under protest at Love when wondering why they weren't riding on JFK's limo.

Its clear that people were told where to go and what to do/not to do that day, almost all of it out of the ordinary.

I think lone nut conspiracy theorists (and that's what they are to believe Oswald acted "alone") are not only going to be proven wrong in a short time (within a decade or two) but are going to end up looking very foolish for trying to deny things that are/were right in front of their face that put all this together in the first few days -- things like the Katzenbach memo and other things.

The truth behind JFK coming to light pulls the plug on the CIA period and it will likely never be revealed to preserve the shield.

Many have long believed that when it comes to international intelligence it should be left up to the Military 100%. The CIA is a rogue organization that was invented to replace the need to pull military warriors AGOs and tags before sending them over the fence, because if your caught you're on your own and the DOD can claim plausible deniability. The original spooks main objectives were instigating change in foreign governments, to benefit US presence internationally. But just like Hoover established at the FBI they turned the weapon meant to never operate on US soil, was directed inward and *******ized to what it is today. JFK sealed his fate when he wanted to do away with the CIA and never escalate Vietnam. Ike warned him and they used cutouts to protect the shield.

The CIA has a history where they do something that the govt later has to hide to protect our reputation and the safety of our citizens and troops abroad.

I don't think the organization was officially involved in JFKs assassination but I believe they helped to bury the investigation as the CIA was tied to individuals that may have been involved. Which leads to the CIA having to continually lie about the assassination and subsequent investigations. Coverup the coverup.

Never made sense: (Still doesn't)
1. How did LHO know in advance that he had to become employed somewhere (??) along the parade route?
2. Zapruder (Russian immigrant) personally knew the Oswalds, and he too knew EXACTLY where to be to capture the ONLY film of the entire event. (Surprisingly in the same area as LHO).
3. Parkland Dr's who refute Bethesda Dr's autopsy as to entry versus exit wounds and met together after the Warren Rpt. and even videoed their conference to discuss same.
4. Records remain secret after their 50 yr. deadline for release.

Just my opinion...but given their history of assassination...reeks of a certain 3 letter agency.

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Never made sense: (Still doesn't)
1. How did LHO know in advance that he had to become employed somewhere (??) along the parade route?
2. Zapruder (Russian immigrant) personally knew the Oswalds, and he too knew EXACTLY where to be to capture the ONLY film of the entire event. (Surprisingly in the same area as LHO).
3. Parkland Dr's who refute Bethesda Dr's autopsy as to entry versus exit wounds and met together after the Warren Rpt. and even videoed their conference to discuss same.
4. Records remain secret after their 50 yr. deadline for release.

Just my opinion...but given their history of assassination...reeks of a certain 3 letter agency.

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I've never heard that zapruder knew Oswald, or even hinted at it until your post. Wikipedia tells me zapruder immigrated out of Russia as the communists took over and was in America by 1920 when he was 15.

Not to mention that Oswald was employed at the TSBD weeks before Kennedy even decided to go to Texas.

He didn't. The Reddit level nonsense.

There are a lot of crazy coincidences and interwoven relationships between the CIA operatives, the mob, businessmen, politicians and Cuban exiles. How is is just coincidence that George de Mohrenschildt knew the Bouviers, George H.W. Bush, several CIA officers and Lee Harvey Oswald among others. That is oddly coincidental.

And he died in Florida on the same day as Nicoletti in Chicago before they were to appear separately before the HCOA.

You mean committed suicide

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You mean committed suicide

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His wife did not believe he (George de Mohrenschildt) committed suicide. Furthermore, she feared for her own safety, and that she might be "suicided" herself, and made it known publicly. Many, many people associated with this "case" met with untimely, early deaths.

And to respond to another poster's comment about Zapruder knowing Oswald; at the time Zapruder had been working with Mrs. de Mohrenschildt for years. So it's very possible he indeed knew Oswald.

The relative few Russian/Poland immigrants in the DFW area at that time were pretty tight and pretty much knew one another. I've read they would meet and try to assist one another with funding, employment etc.

Untimely death?!? de Mohrenschildt was 65, suffering from depression and other mental issues. His death was only untimely because he unloaded both barrels of a 20 gauge in his mouth. If he needed to be silenced, the CIA waited much too long by not offing him until 1977. The man was flamboyant, but he was also mentally unstable. He had made several suicide attempts before succeeding. He had threatened suicide to his daughter at least three times in the month he finally succeeded.

Which wife said he was murdered? The one who was the mother of the daughter he was staying with at the time of his suicide or the one that committed him to the Parkland Hospital psychiatric unit in 1976 after four suicide attempts; twice by overdose, once by slashing his wrists, and once by trying to drown himself in a bathtub ? The man was depressed and hearing voices in his head when he was committed at Parkland for eight weeks, where he was administered heavy shock treatment.

The Palm Beach sheriff and medical examiner ruled it a suicide, did the CIA drag them into the conspiracy as well?

Not directed at you but I must address the Zapruder knew Oswald line. So Zapruder had the inside from Oswald that Kennedy was going to be shot and he needed to film it. If that is the case, why did Zapruder have to go home from work to get his camera, at the urging of his secretary, before the motorcade? I mean, why would you leave your camera at home if your one job in the CIA conspiracy was to record the assassination? And why did the CIA want it recorded? That theory is just pathetic.

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Untimely death?!? de Mohrenschildt was 65, suffering from depression and other mental issues. His death was only untimely because he unloaded both barrels of a 20 gauge in his mouth. If he needed to be silenced, the CIA waited much too long by not offing him until 1977. The man was flamboyant, but he was also mentally unstable. He had made several suicide attempts before succeeding. He had threatened suicide to his daughter at least three times in the month he finally succeeded.

Which wife said he was murdered? The one who was the mother of the daughter he was staying with at the time of his suicide or the one that committed him to the Parkland Hospital psychiatric unit in 1976 after four suicide attempts; twice by overdose, once by slashing his wrists, and once by trying to drown himself in a bathtub ? The man was depressed and hearing voices in his head when he was committed at Parkland for eight weeks, where he was administered heavy shock treatment.

The Palm Beach sheriff and medical examiner ruled it a suicide, did the CIA drag them into the conspiracy as well?

Not directed at you but I must address the Zapruder knew Oswald line. So Zapruder had the inside from Oswald that Kennedy was going to be shot and he needed to film it. If that is the case, why did Zapruder have to go home from work to get his camera, at the urging of his secretary, before the motorcade? I mean, why would you leave your camera at home if your one job in the CIA conspiracy was to record the assassination? And why did the CIA want it recorded? That theory is just pathetic.

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Why go home? - because that's where the camera was...because he wanted more film...because he wanted a different lens...because... because... (Zapruder was a pattern-cutter in the fashion industry...in other words human)
Why did the CIA want it recorded? - because they would need to modify the image to fit a scenario...because there would be some footage they would need to remove that didn't fit the narrative...because it would provide them with images to...eh uhm...distort the truth and convince the unwitting public and satisfy handpicked, pre-surveilled/hand chosen investigators...because...because...

Some are so simply fooled by SCOTUS Warren's pathetic report.

Wait was he a CIA asset or a man in the fashion industry or was it both?

And they modified the film so all the conspiracy theorists would hone in on the head snap and think it was a conspiracy.

When you run down all the rabbit holes the conspiracy theorists dig you can really get lost and not keep the theories straight

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Wait was he a CIA asset or a man in the fashion industry or was it both?

And they modified the film so all the conspiracy theorists would hone in on the head snap and think it was a conspiracy.

When you run down all the rabbit holes the conspiracy theorists dig you can really get lost and not keep the theories straight

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Sorry...just one theory. One agency with the means, motive and yes...opportunity, not to mention plenty of assassination experience and an angry, recently fired head who "surprisingly served on the Warren Commission. Everyone else, LHO, Zapruder, etc., etc., were just simpletons needed/used to fetch and step as directed.

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - "To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he's doing is good..."