Ayatollahs made some comment they would make Tisha B'av the date for their attack as it is a holy day which memorializes the destruction of the First and Second Temples to the Greeks and Romans

so symbolic. It's not for another week.

Russia is trying to come in to convince Iran not to attack Israel. End game is Russia gets the American Jews to force congress not to send more weapon systems to Ukraine.

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The longer this draws out, the more chance it's just a shart. Picking a couple of remote locations so they can puff out their little bird chests.

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Agreed.


The problem with Iran is they may be fundamentalists and irrational, but they are just practical enough to know starting a huge war for "the cause" will mean their total destruction. They have just a tad too much survival instinct to take the plunge, and their bluff gets called fairly often.

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says the same people who claimed Hamas understands any mass invasion and massacre would lead to the destruction of Hamas...

says the same people who claimed Hitler understood a World War would lead to the destruction of Germany

says the same people who claimed the Japanese understood any attack on the United States would lead to their destruction

says the same people who claimed Saddam Hussein understood taking out Kuwait would lead to the end of his regime

says the same people who claimed Osama Bin Laden would never risk the destruction of Al Qaeda by attacking the United States directly

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FrioAg 00 said:

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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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The longer this draws out, the more chance it's just a shart. Picking a couple of remote locations so they can puff out their little bird chests.

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Agreed.


The problem with Iran is they may be fundamentalists and irrational, but they are just practical enough to know starting a huge war for "the cause" will mean their total destruction. They have just a tad too much survival instinct to take the plunge, and their bluff gets called fairly often.

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says the same people who claimed Hamas understands any mass invasion and massacre would lead to the destruction of Hamas...

says the same people who claimed Hitler understood a World War would lead to the destruction of Germany

says the same people who claimed the Japanese understood any attack on the United States would lead to their destruction

• Japan knew their plan hinged on taking out our carriers and so significantly hindering our capability to obstruct their activities that they could achieve their goals.

says the same people who claimed Saddam Hussein understood taking out Kuwait would lead to the end of his regime

• Very interesting book I read a while back, called Debriefing the President, written by the CIA guy that interrogated him and got him to open up Saddam acknowledged that his invasion of Kuwait was a serious tactical error. He did not understand our return under Bush. He told the CIA that while he wasn't a perfect man, he was without a doubt a stabilizing force in the region.

says the same people who claimed Osama Bin Laden would never risk the destruction of Al Qaeda by attacking the United States directly

• Did we destroy Al Qaeda? Or are they, via the Taliban, as strong as ever. I'm not 100% on all those relationships....

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Just nit-picking.

So what are chances White House told Iran to issue NOTAM, do nothing, get check from White House and celebrate Kamala for stopping WWIII?

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So what are chances White House told Iran to issue NOTAM, do nothing, get check from White House and celebrate Kamala for stopping WWIII?

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Kamala left the meeting in the Situation room early this week. Some pundits think she may have been kicked out but I have another take. She left for plausible deniability. She was not in the room when the appeasement plan was being discussed. So that cannot be hung around her neck.

Egypt has issued a curious NOTAM instructing Egyptian airlines avoid Iranian airspace between 0100-0400 UTC on 8 Aug. We say curious as Egyptian carriers route around Iran already as normal procedure. 🕵️‍♂️ @_opsgroup pic.twitter.com/hnR8q0Jrz1

— Flightradar24 (@flightradar24) August 7, 2024

flight radar still showing a bunch of planes over Iraq and Iran but not many over israel/jordan and zero over Lebanon and Syria

my buddy says he heard Egypt has until 0300 Cairo Time to have their planes out of Iraqi airspace. who knows if this is accurate

UK issue new NOTAM recommending UK operators to not enter Beirut FIR "due to potential risk to aviation from military activity"

NOTAM is in effect from today until November 4th. https://t.co/5bfnGmTgVD pic.twitter.com/rVDoGb07kF

— Faytuks News (@Faytuks) August 7, 2024

not a single plane in the eastern Mediterranean is now heading to Tel Aviv,

just 4 of them to Amman

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not a single plane in the eastern Mediterranean is now heading to Tel Aviv,

just 4 of them to Amman

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On FlightRadar24 there are at least 7 right now heading to Tel Aviv.

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And now the latest rumor from Iran is that the new president has explicitly asked Ayatollah Khamenei to cancel the retaliation in order for him to pursue better ties to the West:

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Iran's president, Masoud Pezeshkian, has reportedly asked the Islamic Republic's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, to refrain from attacking Israel, according to a report by Iran International on Wednesday.

Pezeshkian warned Khamenei of the potential attack's effects on his presidency, with Iran International quoting sources familiar with the development.

The new Iranian president cautioned that an Israeli retaliatory attack could cripple Iran's economy, infrastructure, and even lead to the country's collapse.

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That ... sounds a bit out of character for the kind of 'leadership' the ayatollahs usually allow to emerge. So does the reported reaction from Khamenei, which the source describes as "noncommittal" during Pezeshkian's presentation. His fears are hardly irrational, since Israel demonstrated pretty clearly after Iran's prior retaliation that they can hit anything they want if Iran escalates, and Israel has made clear that they won't hesitate now to respond on scale.

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But still, this sounds a little too good to be true. Or is it? WaPo nat-sec columnist David Ignatius claims that the White House believes that they may have dissuaded the Iranians from anything other than a token attack. And they have also leaned on the prospects for Pezeshkian to do so:

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The Iranian response has been complicated by seeming confusion over the circumstances of Haniyeh's death. Tehran at first claimed he was killed by an Israeli missile, requiring a similar Iranian response. But officials say that Tehran has concluded privately that he was instead eliminated by a concealed bomb, perhaps prompting a different response. The Iranian regime is said to have conducted similar targeted attacks in third countries.

Tehran may also be dissuaded by the U.S. show of force this week, and secret White House communications passed via the Swiss embassy in Tehran and the Iranian mission at the United Nations. "Iran understands clearly that the United States is unwavering in its defense of our interests, our partners and our people. We have moved a significant amount of military assets to the region to underscore that principle," a senior administration official messaged me.

U.S. messages to Iran have also made clear that the risk of a major escalation is extremely high, with serious consequences for the stability of the new government of President Masoud Pezeshkian.

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Via Hot Air.

Any more question there is appeasement happening with Iran by the Biden administration?

https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-813784

Iranian Presidents asked Iotollah to not attack Israel

1) Joe gets his blue ribbon save the world moment.

1B... Dems don't have to further pick between their Muslim and Jewish supporters

2) The region not going surface of the sun hot doesn't usher in a Trump victory (Xi, Putin, Iran, none of them want to deal with Trump).

3) If it comes crashing down around Kamala, no one in Dem power cares.

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1) Joe gets his blue ribbon save the world moment.

1B... Dems don't have to further pick between their Muslim and Jewish supporters

2) The region not going surface of the sun hot doesn't usher in a Trump victory (Xi, Putin, Iran, none of them want to deal with Trump).

3) If it comes crashing down around Kamala, no one in Dem power cares.

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I was roasted for posting a tweet that suggested sanctions relief for Iran was possibly on the table to leverage the Iranians into not attacking Israel but sure does appear that seems to be happening

{The Israeli army said it had hit "a Hezbollah operational command center in the area of Mansouri", a village a few kilometres (miles) from Majdal Zoun. "As a result of the presence of Hezbollah weapons and ammunition within the command center, a large explosion occurred..}.

— Phoeli𝕏 (@sunmynd) August 7, 2024

Trying to neutralize Hezbollah before the Iranian attack?

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I was roasted for posting a tweet that suggested sanctions relief for Iran was possibly on the table to leverage the Iranians into not attacking Israel but sure does appear that seems to be happening

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The tweet you posted implied that a deal was done where sanctions would be lifted in Iran didn't attack.

And I don't feel you were roasted for the content, it was the source you used as it seemed clear it was not a reliable account.

There's conventional war on three continents and all anybody care about is Trump.

A new war every 14-months doesn't even move the needle. It's all about Trump and what he might do to us.

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There's conventional war on three continents and all anybody care about is Trump.

A new war every 14-months doesn't even move the needle. It's all about Trump and what he might do to us.

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More than anything Trump is viewed as a very real threat to the conventional power base within the Democrat party for sure, and to a lesser extent the Republican party (the swampy RINO uniparty wing)

BREAKING: The Washington Post reports that Iran's attack could be 'more sudden, larger in scale and longer — possibly lasting several days instead of several hours' and could involve a 'coordinated barrage from multiple directions' involving Tehran's proxies in Lebanon, Yemen,…

— The Spectator Index (@spectatorindex) August 8, 2024

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BREAKING: The Washington Post reports that Iran's attack could be 'more sudden, larger in scale and longer — possibly lasting several days instead of several hours' and could involve a 'coordinated barrage from multiple directions' involving Tehran's proxies in Lebanon, Yemen,…

— The Spectator Index (@spectatorindex) August 8, 2024

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I hope the mullahs are in a tunnel about 500 ft underground...

Perhaps they should look at how Israel responded to Hamas attacking them.

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I was roasted for posting a tweet that suggested sanctions relief for Iran was possibly on the table to leverage the Iranians into not attacking Israel but sure does appear that seems to be happening

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The tweet you posted implied that a deal was done where sanctions would be lifted in Iran didn't attack.

And I don't feel you were roasted for the content, it was the source you used as it seemed clear it was not a reliable account.

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And nothing has happened since then to dispel that it very well could be accurate, since that's page out of Obama's playbook for dealing with Iran and even Russia.

We'll see but the fact the new Iranian President is begging the mullahs for restraint based upon economic issues, appears to me to reinforce that possibility. Do you disagree?

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when iran launches their attack, Israel should have their own ready to go and launch a simultaneous counter strike on Iranian soil.

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If they had an attack plan, they would have done it by now.

It was a targeted attack. Not an attack towards Iranian citizens at large. Some need for proportionality there.

Neither Putin nor Xi need additional demands on them to support Iran in a full scale war right now. and that support would also mean monetary assistance if the international community backed even more economic sanctions against Iran.

The Biden administration, just like Obama's, is playing national politics with foreign policy here.

Kamala as Commander in Chief during a hot war is far different optics than Trump as Commander in Chief during the same. TBH, I would have felt more comfortable with Hill and Bill being charge than I ever would Kamala. Even with how wimpy and wobbly our current Joint Chiefs and Sec Def are.

I dont think Iran had the capability to launch a large attack....They have been supplying arms and counter measures with Russia over the last week....

I think they will attack, let Hizbollah/Yemen attack first them launch their barrage....

If they do nothing now, they willl lost too much face in the Middle East......

Chatter yesterday about the new Iranian president trying to convince the Ayatollah to not order a strike on Israel. He favors building Iranian strength through diplomatic channels and developing better relations with Arab and Sunni Muslim countries. Does not want a regional conflict and does not want to harm future relations with other Islamic countries. The Arab states in particular are adamantly against Iran launching any sort of large-scale strike on Israel.

The Ayatollah is the one who makes the ultimate call on everything, though.

There's at least some concern that Hezbollah could go Leroy Jenkins and just try to do something on their own.

The Squadron of F/A-18E “Super Hornet” Multirole Fighters that were Relocated from the USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71) to a “Unnamed Partner-Airbase” in the Middle East is now Confirmed to have been Strike Fighter Squadron 25 (VFA-25) also known as the “Fist of the Fleet” from… pic.twitter.com/RT2PXm16r6

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) August 8, 2024

Israel strikes inside Syria.

Target bombed by Israel tonight is identified: bunkers used as ammo storage in a base in S. outskirts of Shayrat Airbase - S. #Homs. https://t.co/EZafPJVCRp pic.twitter.com/6Vcz0ARLTX

— Qalaat Al Mudiq (@QalaatAlMudiq) August 8, 2024

And continue to hit Lebanon

Several Israeli Airstrikes just now on the Town of Hanaouay in the Tyre District of Southwestern Lebanon, with Fire and Smoke being seen from Miles by Residents. pic.twitter.com/zSpJusnKIy

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) August 8, 2024

Stern warning time.

Sounds like we're in the "events leading up to" part of the book right before the maps with flags and arrows.

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Stern warning time.

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I think "stern warning" comes right before "line in the sand."

No real sense of urgency with any of this but it could pop off at any time. No guarantee what these people might do with the backing of China and Russia. We might wake up one morning with all hell broke loose.

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No real sense of urgency with any of this but it could pop off at any time. No guarantee what these people might do with the backing of China and Russia. We might wake up one morning with all hell broke loose.

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Iran is a yappy toothless Pekineses. They have always talked big and done nothing. And no way Russia and China back them on such an attack unless they see such inept American leadership that they roll the dice.

Their opinion of the resolve, strength, competence of our leadership is the biggest factor in all of this.

This is why you never vote in the McGoverns, Mondales, Clintons, Bidens, and Harris of the world. If you have bad guys on the world stage they become emboldened

Yeah no the last thing russia wants from its biggest supplier of arms is to stop and become the end user.

Lines up with report Iran will attack during Tisha B AV, 9th of AV. Its a thing known to Judaism. https://t.co/9Pr7yY2mwi

— TBlanch (@TBlanch7828) August 9, 2024