RFKJr to drop out and endorse Trump??

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ArcticPenguin said:

Ag87H2O said:

Having the Kennedy name supporting Trump would be such a slap in the face to the Democrats.

I think more than a few Democrats are in the same boat. Even for Democrats, Harris is so far left and so unlikable, they would rather have Trump for four years and hope a legitimate Democrat runs in 2028 than to have to face the prospect of eight years of cackling Kamala.
I don't know a single democrat that feels this way. 90% of the party is behind her. The fundraising is off the charts with 100 days to go (better than Obama numbers, hell better than any candidate in history). This feels like 2008, no 3rd party candidate is pulling votes from Kamala and the Trump folks know that. That is why they must have promised RJK something to drop out of the race. Based on the momentum (and especially if Trump debates her) it won't matter. She is going to win, and it isn't going to be close.

The irony that the GOP would have had at least half of the white women backing Harris backing Nikki Haley if she was the nomination shows they can't get out of their own way. Abortion is THE issue, and Nikki had a common sense approach to it. 55% of white women voted for Trump in 2020 pre-Dobbs. If that number drops to 51 or 52% (which seems like a layup, it will likely be more) it is a bloodbath. Dobbs also means it is highly likely the Dems take the house back with more cushion the GOP had in the last two years. Women are angry very angry, which is why even in places like Kansas a woman's rights to their own body and reproductive health won in a landslide.

The next 100 days are going to be wild, but the DNC has gone from worry and anxiety to outright LFG in the span of a week and the base is ready to run through a brick wall for her. Get out of your echo chamber and pay attention. The DNC Convention is going to be a huge party and celebration. Just hide and watch.
Have you been watching Kamala the last 4 years? You'd run thru a brick wall for her? Ha! I get that you'd vote for any D with a pulse, but spare the fake rah rah stuff.
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You don't believe that 90% of democrats are behind Kamala? Then you really aren't paying attention. Because that is not opinion. You don't believe she raised more money in a single week than any presidential candidate in history? Then once again you aren't paying attention. Because that too is fact, not opinion. She raised $81M from small money donors in 24 hrs and got another $150M from large donors. These are easily verifiable facts.
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ArcticPenguin said:

You don't believe that 90% of democrats are behind Kamala? Then you really aren't paying attention. Because that is not opinion. You don't believe she raised more money in a single week than any presidential candidate in history? Then once again you aren't paying attention. Because that too is fact, not opinion. She raised $81M from small money donors in 24 hrs and got another $150M from large donors. These are easily verifiable facts.


Well it does prove there are more idiots than I thought.
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GE said:

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Texas velvet maestro said:

He not only needs to stay in, he needs a bump or endorsement or a news worthy happening, desperately.
Because everything that can be done to make him invisible or over, will be done.

his treatment thus far is rock solid proof that the system is rigged and this "democracy" the dems talk about saving, is a joke.


He's a nut job and has been for a lot longer than the last few years when he gained some prominence. He's not getting any real endorsements from important people because no one wants to tie their wagon to someone like him and that includes his entire family.

His lack of endorsements isn't some kind of conspiracy. It's evidence of him being a whack job
Any more substantive "whack job" examples outside of entrenched democrat partisans not endorsing?
He believes that COVID was developed to target Caucasians and Blacks, but Chinese and some Jews are immune to it. https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/07/17/democrats-revolt-against-rfk-jr-over-reprehensible-anti-semitic-and-anti-asian-comments/?sh=c1218e06e0c3


Mass shootings are caused by Prozac. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/us/politics/robert-f-kennedy-jr-twitter-2024.html


Bush stole the 2004 election from Kerry: https://people.csail.mit.edu/rivest/voting/press/WasThe2004ElectionStolen.pdf

RFJ Jr doesn't think Sirhan Sirhan killed his dad. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/05/26/who-killed-bobby-kennedy-his-son-rfk-jr-doesnt-believe-it-was-sirhan-sirhan/

WiFi is radiation that causes cancer and "opens up your blood brain barrier." https://www.mediaite.com/politics/rfk-jr-completely-caves-when-joe-rogan-asks-him-to-explain-his-claim-wifi-causes-cancer/


1. That's not what he said on COVID. He was using it as a recent example of an illness that disparately impacts populations saying someone COULD make a racial bio weapon not that Rona IS that.

2. Mass shootings correlate closely enough with antidepressants that many people see a causal link, especiallly if you look at them before and after antidepressants become ubiquitous.

3. Lots of democrats think the election was stolen every time their side loses. It's bull**** but they do think that. Not "nutty", just wrong.

4. Strange one to include here given that it's probably the majority view of people that have looked into it that Sirhan didn't fire the shots that killed him.

5. A lot of people are concerned about WiFi radiation and potential health impacts. He overstated the case but it's not a crazy thing to be concerned about or look into.
Bolded is the only thing worth replying to, because you have to be a complete nut job to think that, and it certainly isn't the majority view of people that have looked into it. It has been investigated multiple times and there is no evidence of anyone other than Sirhan Sirhan shooting RFK. Sirhan even admits that he killed RFK for supporting Israel "with 20 years malice aforethought." 1968 was obviously 20 years from the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, and Sirhan was a Palestinian from Jerusalem. NFL All-Pro Rosie Greer ripped the gun out of Sirhan's hands and held him until he was arrested. We have the confessed killer tackled, literal smoking gun pulled from his hands at the scene, and no evidence of shots from anyone else ever produced, and people still believe that someone else did it, despite ZERO evidence ever produced that anyone else was involved.

Not strange at all to me that if you would believe completely unsubstantiated nonsense like Sirhan not killing RFK, that you would believe other nutjob conspiracies with no evidentiary support.
To say zero evidence is just wrong. Eyewitnesses saying Sirhan standing in front of RFK and autopsy showing burns from point blank shot from behind is evidence. It's not conclusive evidence but it is evidence. Nobody disputes that Sirhan tried to shoot him and was taken down, the question is only if he fired the shot that killed RFK.

It's perfectly fair to say the official story and preponderance of the evidence points to Sirhan acting alone. It's intellectually dishonest to claim that is the only possible explanation for what happened.


There is no evidence that anyone was working with Sirhan. He admitted guilt multiple times over multiple decades, he planned it and told people about his plans, he journaled about his plans, he had motive, opportunity, the weapon, a plan, and there is no evidence for a second shooter or any other conspiracy.

There are witnesses that have changed their accounts decades later, but none of them testified or made their testimony at the time that someone else other than Sirhan was a gunman.

Most of the conflicting testimony has to do with number of gunshots heard in that small room. There were four people that gave in their report that they heard "5 to 10" shots, "up to 10 shots" or something other than the eight known shots.. that's the closest thing to evidence there is for a second shooter. Out of dozens of people that witnessed it, that's all there is.

The guy admits he did it. It's a case long ago closed, except for some nut jobs that want to grab on to things and twist them to serve their own purposes.



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ArcticPenguin said:

You don't believe that 90% of democrats are behind Kamala? Then you really aren't paying attention. Because that is not opinion. You don't believe she raised more money in a single week than any presidential candidate in history? Then once again you aren't paying attention. Because that too is fact, not opinion. She raised $81M from small money donors in 24 hrs and got another $150M from large donors. These are easily verifiable facts.


Uh huh, I'm sure none of that was rolled over from Biden's war chest. None at all

The person who was the first to drop out of the 2020 primary just can't stop people from opening their wallets for her.
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ArcticPenguin said:

You don't believe that 90% of democrats are behind Kamala? Then you really aren't paying attention. Because that is not opinion. You don't believe she raised more money in a single week than any presidential candidate in history? Then once again you aren't paying attention. Because that too is fact, not opinion. She raised $81M from small money donors in 24 hrs and got another $150M from large donors. These are easily verifiable facts.
I believe 90% of Dems support Kamala. I believe that 80% of that group REALLY wishes they had a much better candidate.
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MookieBlaylock said:

put him on the cabinet to and watch with 1 job - Faucci


Make him CDC director.
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ArcticPenguin said:

You don't believe that 90% of democrats are behind Kamala? Then you really aren't paying attention. Because that is not opinion. You don't believe she raised more money in a single week than any presidential candidate in history? Then once again you aren't paying attention. Because that too is fact, not opinion. She raised $81M from small money donors in 24 hrs and got another $150M from large donors. These are easily verifiable facts.


That is complete nonsense. Those donations were laundered donations via Act Blue and others. It's Soros money. Small donors my ass.

You mean to tell me all those small donors refused to give to Biden before the debate and before he dropped out?!?! They were just waiting in the wings until Kamala was annointed. Lololololololol
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93MarineHorn said:


I believe 90% of Dems support Kamala. I believe that 80% of that group REALLY wishes they had a much better candidate.
well, they don't get a better candidate. kamala was groomed to be the one, beat the old white man and carry out their agenda.

We should all wish RFK jr the best. May he stay in the race and mess with their convention, and prove their lack of democracy. AND may his spirit of questioning establishment narratives, live forever.
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rgag12 said:

ArcticPenguin said:

You don't believe that 90% of democrats are behind Kamala? Then you really aren't paying attention. Because that is not opinion. You don't believe she raised more money in a single week than any presidential candidate in history? Then once again you aren't paying attention. Because that too is fact, not opinion. She raised $81M from small money donors in 24 hrs and got another $150M from large donors. These are easily verifiable facts.


Uh huh, I'm sure none of that was rolled over from Biden's war chest. None at all

The person who was the first to drop out of the 2020 primary just can't stop people from opening their wallets for her.
I wouldn't trust any lying Dem or msm type to be honest about anything regarding this election. Arctic, believe whatever you want, but please don't insult our intelligence by saying that Dems are fired up about Kamala. I'm sure they're greatly relieved that Biden stepped aside. Watching all the libs on TV shed tears over Biden like he was some great statesman and not a pitiful old man forced out by the party was high comedy.
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ArcticPenguin said:

Ag87H2O said:

Having the Kennedy name supporting Trump would be such a slap in the face to the Democrats.

I think more than a few Democrats are in the same boat. Even for Democrats, Harris is so far left and so unlikable, they would rather have Trump for four years and hope a legitimate Democrat runs in 2028 than to have to face the prospect of eight years of cackling Kamala.
I don't know a single democrat that feels this way. 90% of the party is behind her. The fundraising is off the charts with 100 days to go (better than Obama numbers, hell better than any candidate in history). This feels like 2008, no 3rd party candidate is pulling votes from Kamala and the Trump folks know that. That is why they must have promised RJK something to drop out of the race. Based on the momentum (and especially if Trump debates her) it won't matter. She is going to win, and it isn't going to be close.
The irony that the GOP would have had at least half of the white women backing Harris backing Nikki Haley if she was the nomination shows they can't get out of their own way. Abortion is THE issue, and Nikki had a common sense approach to it. 55% of white women voted for Trump in 2020 pre-Dobbs. If that number drops to 51 or 52% (which seems like a layup, it will likely be more) it is a bloodbath. Dobbs also means it is highly likely the Dems take the house back with more cushion the GOP had in the last two years. Women are angry very angry, which is why even in places like Kansas a woman's rights to their own body and reproductive health won in a landslide.

The next 100 days are going to be wild, but the DNC has gone from worry and anxiety to outright LFG in the span of a week and the base is ready to run through a brick wall for her. Get out of your echo chamber and pay attention. The DNC Convention is going to be a huge party and celebration. Just hide and watch.
Bookmarked.

I have no doubt the DNC will be a lie filled celebration praising Biden/Harris and annointing her the nominee. But it will be short lived as reality sets in as to how bad a candidate she really is. I said it on another thread, there isn't enough lipstick on the planet to make this figurative pig look good.

After the disaster of the last 3-1/2 years, Americans aren't getting fooled again.
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Her argument makes no sense. Biden is 1000% pro unlimited abortion. He's says he wants to make Roe the law of the land. Abortion is the reason she says it will be a bloodbath. If so, there was no reason to replace him. Lol.

The Dems seem to think the candidate matters.

Kamal is a terrible candidate. She could still win because of the complete idiots on the left, but to act like she has energized the left is simply ******ed.
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why are women angry?

And Kumala is not going to win.
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Edward_Colston said:

why are women angry?

And Kumala is not going to win.


Because Trump took away their rights by giving the decision to have an abortion back to the states. LoL

This nation is bound for hell.
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Proof that 90% of democrats will go vote for her.

The woman used sex to get ahead. The woman is t African American. The woman has ancestors that owned slaves. The woman failed on the border. She is not smart. She is a word salad waiting to happen.
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backintexas2013 said:

Proof that 90% of democrats will go vote for her.

The woman used sex to get ahead. The woman is t African American. The woman has ancestors that owned slaves. The woman failed on the border. She is not smart. She is a word salad waiting to happen.


Word salad? More like food processor.
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Captn_Ag05 said:

RFK needs to stay in. He provides a protest vote for the Trump haters that are not on board with all of Kamala's policies but can't bring themselves to vote for Trump.
Needs to stay in because he is superior.
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Hey penguin. In April of this year, just a few months ago, the left on CNN were discussing how Kamala was dragging Biden down.

Can you explain how she turned it around like she has?


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ArcticPenguin said:

You don't believe that 90% of democrats are behind Kamala? Then you really aren't paying attention. Because that is not opinion. You don't believe she raised more money in a single week than any presidential candidate in history? Then once again you aren't paying attention. Because that too is fact, not opinion. She raised $81M from small money donors in 24 hrs and got another $150M from large donors. These are easily verifiable facts.
I don't believe she raised 81 million dollars from small money donors in 24 hours. Easily verify it.
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He should talk with Trump and do what Trump things gives Trump the best chance to win
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Good luck. The spin cycle will be on high.
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Kenneth_2003 said:

William K. Klingaman said:

Give him a cabinet position in an area he has conservative ideas. The only thing I can think of for now is the border.
Health and Human services?
I'd like to see Dr. Ben Carson in that role.
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RFKJr has literally no path.

He knows Kamala is an evil idiot.

Smart thing.
Currently a happy listless vessel and deplorable. #FDEMS TRUMP 2024.
Fight Fight Fight.
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Thought that was 200 millions act blue was sitting in and refusing to let go of Biden didn't step down.
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Trying to fully grasp and understand what all RFK is saying about Bitcoin here.

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Let me guess, he talks about great Bitcoin is without actually explaining anything.
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He would help Trump more by staying on the ballots.
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93MarineHorn said:

ArcticPenguin said:

You don't believe that 90% of democrats are behind Kamala? Then you really aren't paying attention. Because that is not opinion. You don't believe she raised more money in a single week than any presidential candidate in history? Then once again you aren't paying attention. Because that too is fact, not opinion. She raised $81M from small money donors in 24 hrs and got another $150M from large donors. These are easily verifiable facts.
I believe 90% of Dems support Kamala. I believe that 80% of that group REALLY wishes they had a much better candidate.
I'd like to think most people planning to vote for Trump wish they had a much better candidate too
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aglaes said:

Trying to fully grasp and understand what all RFK is saying about Bitcoin here.


I cant sit through 30 min of him talking, but I randomly dropped in and watched a few minutes. He was saying bitcoin, but it sounded like was talking about blockchain.
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I can't get over just how gullible and stupid Arctic Penguin is. Did they take your kids away yet? They should.
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Burdizzo said:

Let me guess, he talks about great Bitcoin is without actually explaining anything.


He said that he wants to do exactly what Trump wants to do, have a Bitcoin strategic reserve, but he has been calling for one much longer than Trump. He basically called Trump a mercenary looking for more votes.
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ArcticPenguin said:

You don't believe that 90% of democrats are behind Kamala? Then you really aren't paying attention. Because that is not opinion.

Did you also believe that 90% of dems were behind Biden after the debate? KJP to Pelosi to Bernie all saying he was their nominee. All dem leaders were told to say that.....then of course, after some time, they started saying other things.

The GOP ran their RNC, and Trump picked his VP, blind to his real challenger. That's why dems held out on the Biden drop out.
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Democrats are the most morally bankrupt people I've ever encountered.
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I would not be against RFK being tasked with inspecting and revamping the CDC and FDA. I don't want a loon running it, but we do need someone willing to ask the harder questions of those agencies. They appear corrupt.
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Forgot about this lady:




Least memorable VP candidate since Stockman?

I'm Gipper
 
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