V8Aggie said:
You been under a rock?
No.
Excuse me for expressing a reflective thought on how far we have fallen as a nation.
Carry on with knowing everything.
Bibi visiting Trump Friday
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No.
Excuse me for expressing a reflective thought on how far we have fallen as a nation.
Carry on with knowing everything.
Until a few weeks ago, I would have said you shouldn't worry, the Secret Service will have it completely locked down...aggiehawg said:
From OP's link:Have to confess a little uneasy about this. Hope Mar A Lago is a fortress for this visit.Quote:
Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump will host Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Friday at his resort in Palm Beach, Florida, Trump said on Tuesday, a sign the two men are looking to improve ties.
"Looking forward to welcoming Bibi Netanyahu at Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida," the former U.S. president said in a post on Truth Social, using Netanyahu's nickname.
The meeting will be their first since the end of Trump's presidency, during which the two forged close ties, and comes at a time of strains also between Netanyahu and Democratic President Joe Biden over Israel's war against Hamas militants in Gaza.
But now???
I hope not. Screw those people.BlueTaze said:
I'm hearing a lot of pundits say "just release the hostages if you want the war to end". I heard BNet say "he won't rest, until hostages are home". But are there really any formal assurances that Israel will stop waging war on Hamas/Palestinians if the hostages are returned?
Until a few weeks ago, I wouldn't have worried. The last vestiges of trust I had in the federal government, in the Secret Service's competency and dedication to their job. That is shattered now.Quote:
Until a few weeks ago, I would have said you shouldn't worry, the Secret Service will have it completely locked down...
But now???
I really hope Trump has some private security spun up. It's not the officers on the ground in the USS that worry me, but the USSS has shown they can't be trusted. So many of the alphabet agencies need to be gutted, I hope DJT gets the opportunity to do that.aggiehawg said:Until a few weeks ago, I wouldn't have worried. The last vestiges of trust I had in the federal government, in the Secret Service's competency and dedication to their job. That is shattered now.Quote:
Until a few weeks ago, I would have said you shouldn't worry, the Secret Service will have it completely locked down...
But now???
DWT (driving while Trump)Tailgate88 said:On what charges?Ellis Wyatt said:Trump should be extremely cautious. I would not be shocked if the FBI raided Mar-a-Lago and arrested he and Netanyahu.Quote:
Have to confess a little uneasy about this. Hope Mar A Lago is a fortress for this visit.
Kamala's hawk tuah is not the iron dome we're looking forPatriotAg02 said:
Probably getting info and expertise about their "iron dome" defense system. Trump wants one for us.
BlueTaze said:
I'm hearing a lot of pundits say "just release the hostages if you want the war to end". I heard BNet say "he won't rest, until hostages are home". But are there really any formal assurances that Israel will stop waging war on Hamas/Palestinians if the hostages are returned?
It is a moot point, since Hamas refuses to release the hostages. However, it is more likely that Israel would stop fighting than Hamas will honor a cease fire agreement.
BlueTaze said:
I'm hearing a lot of pundits say "just release the hostages if you want the war to end". I heard BNet say "he won't rest, until hostages are home". But are there really any formal assurances that Israel will stop waging war on Hamas/Palestinians if the hostages are returned?
Better odds than hamas observing a cease fire...
ETA: Does anyone think there are a significant number of hostages alive to be released?
Schneider Electric said:
Watch Bongino show the last 2 days and you will be even more worried.
The USSS is being run by incompetent political operatives.
Considering the Mossad collaboration with the CIA to remove JFK, I would be on high alert.
It's incredible to me that we have never really seen the exact number of American hostages being held by terrorists overseas from this ordeal plastered across every TV in America.
Schneider Electric said:V8Aggie said:
You been under a rock?
No.
Excuse me for expressing a reflective thought on how far we have fallen as a nation.
Carry on with knowing everything.
How can that thought not be entertained? Do you honestly believe the SS is that incompetent at their primary mission?
Definitely Not A Cop said:
It's incredible to me that we have never really seen the exact number of American hostages being held by terrorists overseas from this ordeal plastered across every TV in America.
It's not even talked about. They don't matter.
A good businessman always talks to the highest person in charge. There's no need to mess around with lower level minions who aren't able/willing to make decisions without the approval of their manager.
Why wouldn't Bibi be meeting with Joe and/or Kamala?
Answer - they are useless to him.
Trump is the future.
Why wouldn't Bibi be meeting with Joe and/or Kamala?
Answer - they are useless to him.
Trump is the future.
zephyr88 said:
A good businessman always talks to the highest person in charge. There's no need to mess around with lower level minions who aren't able/willing to make decisions without the approval of their manager.
Why wouldn't Bibi be meeting with Joe and/or Kamala?
Answer - they are useless to him.
Trump is the future.
Except he met with both yesterday. But I think that was thrown together after it was announced he would meet with Trump. They had to save face.
I've been on vacation during this whole circus. Seems like my news cycle remains a bit behind. Bibi knows it's a game… checkers with Joe & Kamala, chess with Trump.
How is this guy still posting??Actual Talking Thermos said:No, quite the opposite.BlueTaze said:
I'm hearing a lot of pundits say "just release the hostages if you want the war to end". I heard BNet say "he won't rest, until hostages are home". But are there really any formal assurances that Israel will stop waging war on Hamas/Palestinians if the hostages are returned?
That's what I'd like to know.
We haven't fallen, we've been drug down with the corruption and politicalization of our agencies and one sided justice system.Schneider Electric said:V8Aggie said:
You been under a rock?
No.
Excuse me for expressing a reflective thought on how far we have fallen as a nation.
Carry on with knowing everything.
BlueTaze said:
I'm hearing a lot of pundits say "just release the hostages if you want the war to end". I heard BNet say "he won't rest, until hostages are home". But are there really any formal assurances that Israel will stop waging war on Hamas/Palestinians if the hostages are returned?
Duh- yes of course there are!
that's the entire reason there have been negotiations and discussions the last six months!
what do you think they have been discussing? who makes the best shwarma?
redcrayon said:How is this guy still posting??Actual Talking Thermos said:No, quite the opposite.BlueTaze said:
I'm hearing a lot of pundits say "just release the hostages if you want the war to end". I heard BNet say "he won't rest, until hostages are home". But are there really any formal assurances that Israel will stop waging war on Hamas/Palestinians if the hostages are returned?
look at the difference between the cold hand shake with Bibi from Kamala at arms length distance...
and THIS. "oh but Kamala is pro-Israel!!" she just happens to regurgitate Hamas propaganda all the time.
and THIS. "oh but Kamala is pro-Israel!!" she just happens to regurgitate Hamas propaganda all the time.
🚨 JUST IN: President Trump greets Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu at Mar-a-Lago
— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) July 26, 2024
I can’t wait for this man to be representing us as President again. pic.twitter.com/8nOz0QIR0p
88planoAg said:I think it is more 'surrender and' rather than just 'release the hostages'. Hamas must surrender also.BlueTaze said:
I'm hearing a lot of pundits say "just release the hostages if you want the war to end". I heard BNet say "he won't rest, until hostages are home". But are there really any formal assurances that Israel will stop waging war on Hamas/Palestinians if the hostages are returned?
this is not correct
the reason that Hamas has not ever agreed to a ceasefire and release of hostages is because they have MANY demands.
Israel must leave the Philadelphi corridor
Israel must have all troops leave populated areas
Israel must release thousands of Hamas terrorists from prison
Israel must agree to not start the war again
I was speaking about the Israelis and their position in answer to the bolded part. Hamas surrendering and returning the hostages. Pfft re: their demands.LMCane said:88planoAg said:I think it is more 'surrender and' rather than just 'release the hostages'. Hamas must surrender also.BlueTaze said:
I'm hearing a lot of pundits say "just release the hostages if you want the war to end". I heard BNet say "he won't rest, until hostages are home". But are there really any formal assurances that Israel will stop waging war on Hamas/Palestinians if the hostages are returned?
this is not correct
the reason that Hamas has not ever agreed to a ceasefire and release of hostages is because they have MANY demands.
Israel must leave the Philadelphi corridor
Israel must have all troops leave populated areas
Israel must release thousands of Hamas terrorists from prison
Israel must agree to not start the war again
This is one that just irritates me. Israel and America want our civilian hostages back. The terrorists want terrorist criminals released from prison.Quote:
Israel must release thousands of Hamas terrorists from prison
Of course the US media obfuscates this distinction and makes it seem as though Israel is holding hostages of their own.
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