The Democratic Party, the party who has claimed "Donald Trump is a threat to democracy!!", just subverted the will of the people by deposing their democratically-chosen nominee. They deposed Biden not because he's done something unforgivable or unamerican, but because they're terrified he (and by extension, they) will lose the election to Trump.

Anyone who doubts the Democrats would steal an election to gain power, you've just been exposed to the truth.

We are watching a bloodless coup because the Democrats are terrified of losing power.

Bloodless in the first :25 into the game. Its gonna be a long game.

Can't imagine they will ever let Biden speak publicly again.

Recall the infamous thread on here in early 2019 called "Let's call a spade a spade ..."

The thread was lost to time but we now seeing reverberations of the analysis contained therein.

Like Marty McFly and those in attendance at the enchantment under the sea dance ... y'all just weren't ready for that yet.

Two elections in a row where the Democrats have taken the choice for POTUS away from their registered voters.

For a party constantly whining about protecting the democratic process, the Democrats sure do have a funny way of denying that process to their own base voters.

Next 4 months are going to be exciting.

Is there another Seth Rich lurking out there? Not referencing the murder but any young person in the DNC or staff that thinks everything that is going on is BS has some tech skills and a pile of emails.

I agree with your point but I think it is actually 3 in a row.

1. This DNC went all in for Hillary in 2016 to keep The Burn from winning the nomination if it were a level playing field.
2. The DNC cleared the primary field for Biden after the South Carolina primary in 2020 - once again to keep the Bernie from winning the nomination.
3. And a political coup was just orchestrated in 2024 to euthanize the primary winner (Biden) and the DNC will Devine a process on the fly to select a nominee before the end of August.

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I agree with your point but I think it is actually 3 in a row.

1. This DNC went all in for Hillary in 2016 to keep The Burn from winning the nomination if it were a level playing field.
2. The DNC cleared the primary field for Biden after the South Carolina primary in 2020 - once again to keep the Bernie from winning the nomination.
3. And a political coup was just orchestrated in 2024 to euthanize the primary winner (Biden) and the DNC will Devine a process on the fly to select a nominee before the end of August.

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And you make a great point. They did anoint Hillary and prevented their voters real alternatives.

This is called doubling down. Last election voter fraud occurred during election. This time we got it once already and will get it again in a few months!

The democrats have to run a snap primary. A presidential nominee can not be selected by a politburo in a democratic republic.

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The Democratic Party, the party who has claimed "Donald Trump is a threat to democracy!!", just subverted the will of the people by deposing their democratically-chosen nominee. They deposed Biden not because he's done something unforgivable or unamerican, but because they're terrified he (and by extension, they) will lose the election to Trump.

Anyone who doubts the Democrats would steal an election to gain power, you've just been exposed to the truth.

We are watching a bloodless coup because the Democrats are terrified of losing power.

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It's not the "will of the people".

At most it's the will of some percentage of democrats.

And it absolutely isn't a "coup".

there is always one.....

Mmmk

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The democrats have to run a snap primary. A presidential nominee can not be selected by a politburo in a democratic republic.

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We did it that way for about 150 years. Certainly would be different to have a candidate selected with no pledged delegates compared to living memory for most adults, but it's hardly unprecedented.

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The democrats have to run a snap primary. A presidential nominee can not be selected by a politburo in a democratic republic.

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Claverack said:

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Two elections in a row where the Democrats have taken the choice for POTUS away from their registered voters.

For a party constantly whining about protecting the democratic process, the Democrats sure do have a funny way of denying that process to their own base voters.

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Three.

They shoehorned Hillary in there and screwed Bernie out of it by colluding with the DNC giving Hillary control of their finances and press releases while the contest was still a tossup.

Then they sabotaged Bernie. Joe had lost several states and they paid off all the other Dems to drop out and throw their endorsement to Biden before Super Tuesday.

Now Joe earned it and they subverted him complictly with the media to force him out.

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Two elections in a row where the Democrats have taken the choice for POTUS away from their registered voters.

For a party constantly whining about protecting the democratic process, the Democrats sure do have a funny way of denying that process to their own base voters.

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The democrats haven't had a primary that wasn't managed by their elites since 2008.

Going backwards from where you left off, in 2016, they cleared the field for Hillary keeping Biden and Elizabeth Warren out. All that remained was Bernie who they weren't going to let win.

2012 was Obama's reelection.

So you have to go back to 2008 with Obama, Hillary, Bill Richardson, John Edwards, Biden, Evan Bayh, Chris Dodd, and Dennis Kucinich.

Since Obama won in 2008, the democrats have not had a single open primary where the voters decided instead of the unnamed party politburo.

That kind of deserves a lot more attention and understanding of what is going on.

Ultimately the election for the president will be decided based on a democratically held election (via the electoral college system) on November 5th.

That is how the constitution mandated it would work in the USA. Nothing about the rules of selecting the nominee.

I get that a lot of people don't like it because all of Trump's and the GOP focus has been set on Biden. A lot of those arguments are now moot: Hunter, Age, Biden's Brother, Showers…none of those make sense anymore. Maybe it worked too well for us.

There will be plenty of new arguments for Harris but a lot less time to set those narratives. It still can be won for us Conservatives but it will take a new line of attack.

They don't care. This is what they wanted. Joey Boi had become a liability. So they tossed him


They got what they wanted.

The only problem is that Joe Biden is not/was not the Democratic nominee for president. The official nominee isn't selected until the convention (actually by august 7th via a virtual roll call). Just like Trump was not the official nominee until the RNC vote.

The DNC delegates still have the ability to select just about anyone they want for the nomination. Does it typically happen this way? No not in recent years. But it's not unheard of for delegates to pick a nominee on the convention floor. Delegates aren't bound to vote for any specific candidate and they will do as many rounds of ballots as needed until a nominee is selected. You saw a similar version of this in the Speaker of the House vote to replace McCarthy. All someone needs to get onto the ballot is 600 signatures of DNC delegates of which there are about 4K. Harris is likely the most convenient pick as she has nation wide name recognition and access to all of the campaign funds and infrastructure of the Biden/Harris ticket. But that doesn't mean someone couldn't challenge her. She still has to earn the nomination. You might not a like or agree with the process, but it exists to cover situations just like this Republicans has a similar process as well.

Threads like this are always interesting because they tend to highlight who doesn't have a good grasp of how many political processes work.

Bloodless so far, but not for a lack of trying

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Smoochie-Wallace II said:

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The Democratic Party, the party who has claimed "Donald Trump is a threat to democracy!!", just subverted the will of the people by deposing their democratically-chosen nominee. They deposed Biden not because he's done something unforgivable or unamerican, but because they're terrified he (and by extension, they) will lose the election to Trump.

Anyone who doubts the Democrats would steal an election to gain power, you've just been exposed to the truth.

We are watching a bloodless coup because the Democrats are terrified of losing power.

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It's not the "will of the people".

At most it's the will of some percentage of democrats.

And it absolutely isn't a "coup".

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Correct.

Is an elected leader being forcibly removed from office?

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Ultimately the election for the president will be decided based on a democratically held election (via the electoral college system) on November 5th.

That is how the constitution mandated it would work in the USA. Nothing about the rules of selecting the nominee.

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See if you can find any democrat party members who think this is how their party selects a nominee and understands that their primary votes are not a real party of the process.

And it is only managed theatre.

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redseven94 said:

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Ultimately the election for the president will be decided based on a democratically held election (via the electoral college system) on November 5th.

That is how the constitution mandated it would work in the USA. Nothing about the rules of selecting the nominee.

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See if you can find any democrat party members who think this is how their party selects a nominee and understands that their primary votes are not a real party of the process.

And it is only managed theatre.

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Primary votes are part of the process though. They decide how a delegate is to vote at the various conventions. If the person you voted for in the primary withdraws from the race, how would you handle that?

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redseven94 said:

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Ultimately the election for the president will be decided based on a democratically held election (via the electoral college system) on November 5th.

That is how the constitution mandated it would work in the USA. Nothing about the rules of selecting the nominee.

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See if you can find any democrat party members who think this is how their party selects a nominee and understands that their primary votes are not a real party of the process.

And it is only managed theatre.

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Okay so what do you propose they do? You can't force someone to run if he has chosen not to. Not have a candidate?

If you read my full post you see I said I get why we are mad about it but not it is what it is at this point. Arguing democracy doesn't change anything.

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pagerman @ work said:

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Smoochie-Wallace II said:

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The Democratic Party, the party who has claimed "Donald Trump is a threat to democracy!!", just subverted the will of the people by deposing their democratically-chosen nominee. They deposed Biden not because he's done something unforgivable or unamerican, but because they're terrified he (and by extension, they) will lose the election to Trump.

Anyone who doubts the Democrats would steal an election to gain power, you've just been exposed to the truth.

We are watching a bloodless coup because the Democrats are terrified of losing power.

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It's not the "will of the people".

At most it's the will of some percentage of democrats.

And it absolutely isn't a "coup".

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Correct.

Is an elected leader being forcibly removed from office?

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Practically? Yeah, kind of.

BQRyno said:

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K2-HMFIC said:

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pagerman @ work said:

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Smoochie-Wallace II said:

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The Democratic Party, the party who has claimed "Donald Trump is a threat to democracy!!", just subverted the will of the people by deposing their democratically-chosen nominee. They deposed Biden not because he's done something unforgivable or unamerican, but because they're terrified he (and by extension, they) will lose the election to Trump.

Anyone who doubts the Democrats would steal an election to gain power, you've just been exposed to the truth.

We are watching a bloodless coup because the Democrats are terrified of losing power.

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It's not the "will of the people".

At most it's the will of some percentage of democrats.

And it absolutely isn't a "coup".

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Correct.

Is an elected leader being forcibly removed from office?

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Practically? Yeah, kind of.

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I disagree. He is being forced not to rerun. That not the same thing.

redseven94 said:

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BQRyno said:

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K2-HMFIC said:

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pagerman @ work said:

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Smoochie-Wallace II said:

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The Democratic Party, the party who has claimed "Donald Trump is a threat to democracy!!", just subverted the will of the people by deposing their democratically-chosen nominee. They deposed Biden not because he's done something unforgivable or unamerican, but because they're terrified he (and by extension, they) will lose the election to Trump.

Anyone who doubts the Democrats would steal an election to gain power, you've just been exposed to the truth.

We are watching a bloodless coup because the Democrats are terrified of losing power.

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It's not the "will of the people".

At most it's the will of some percentage of democrats.

And it absolutely isn't a "coup".

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Correct.

Is an elected leader being forcibly removed from office?

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Practically? Yeah, kind of.

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I disagree. He is being forced not to rerun. That not the same thing.

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Let's wait and see how often he's trotted out in the next several months.

BQRyno said:

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redseven94 said:

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BQRyno said:

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K2-HMFIC said:

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pagerman @ work said:

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Smoochie-Wallace II said:

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The Democratic Party, the party who has claimed "Donald Trump is a threat to democracy!!", just subverted the will of the people by deposing their democratically-chosen nominee. They deposed Biden not because he's done something unforgivable or unamerican, but because they're terrified he (and by extension, they) will lose the election to Trump.

Anyone who doubts the Democrats would steal an election to gain power, you've just been exposed to the truth.

We are watching a bloodless coup because the Democrats are terrified of losing power.

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It's not the "will of the people".

At most it's the will of some percentage of democrats.

And it absolutely isn't a "coup".

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Correct.

Is an elected leader being forcibly removed from office?

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Practically? Yeah, kind of.

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I disagree. He is being forced not to rerun. That not the same thing.

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Let's wait and see how often he's trotted out in the next several months.

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I predict very little. Wonder if he will even speak at their convention.

He will be busy pardoning his family.

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Two elections in a row where the Democrats have taken the choice for POTUS away from their registered voters.

For a party constantly whining about protecting the democratic process, the Democrats sure do have a funny way of denying that process to their own base voters.

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To be fair to the democrats, their voting base I am convinced is mostly voting machines running algorithms and dead people so they likely won't complain too loudly.

Gap said:

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redseven94 said:

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Ultimately the election for the president will be decided based on a democratically held election (via the electoral college system) on November 5th.

That is how the constitution mandated it would work in the USA. Nothing about the rules of selecting the nominee.

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See if you can find any democrat party members who think this is how their party selects a nominee and understands that their primary votes are not a real party of the process.

And it is only managed theatre.

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This is the party of the "superdelegates", who selected Hillary and Biden. Democrats don't really care about this sort of thing. Their primary votes haven't counted in at least the last 3 presidential elections.

redseven94 said:

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Gap said:

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redseven94 said:

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Ultimately the election for the president will be decided based on a democratically held election (via the electoral college system) on November 5th.

That is how the constitution mandated it would work in the USA. Nothing about the rules of selecting the nominee.

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See if you can find any democrat party members who think this is how their party selects a nominee and understands that their primary votes are not a real party of the process.

And it is only managed theatre.

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Okay so what do you propose they do? You can't force someone to run if he has chosen not to. Not have a candidate?

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Absolutely. They knew Joe wasn't fit for office and ran him anyway. You knew he wasn't fit for office and you voted for him anyway. He wasn't fit for office 4 years ago and we all knew that, too. The Democrat ticket should be empty at this point.

Whoever replaces Joe was not elected. Just like whoever has been running the country was not elected in 2020.

Last Democratic Party candidate not managed to a conclusion by some behind the scenes politburo was 2008.

Next opportunity in 2028. 20 years during the Information Age where the party is managed from a back room is not an accident. What is going on there is a pretty gigantic story.