It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
Well, she did brag about having 30% women in the SS by 2030 instead of bragging about improved training or competence of officers or agents.Ramdiesel said:one safe place said:
DHS playing the victim card as you might expect.
This is what is crazy about these Liberals. I guess they are mad that they don't get a participation trophy for completely sucking at the most basic and elementary parts of their job. That Cheatle lady should just admit she's way out of her element and resign, people would have more respect for her.
Wow what an idiotic, simplistic statement. Care to add some detail. or is this another of your drive by trollsPumpkinhead said:
It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
ttu_85 said:Wow what an idiotic, simplistic statement. Care to add some detail. or is this another of your drive by trollsPumpkinhead said:
It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
NEW: Pennsylvania Democrat Sen. Bob Casey says he’s “not concerned” at all about the Secret Service and its leadership following the near-assassination of President Trump.
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Pumpkinhead said:
It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
Pumpkinhead said:ttu_85 said:Wow what an idiotic, simplistic statement. Care to add some detail. or is this another of your drive by trollsPumpkinhead said:
It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
What more detail is needed? It is what is is.
But here is a little more since you asked. The FAILURE in this case was the shooter getting into position to take a shot. Not that one of the several agents surrounding Trump AFTER he got shot happened to be a woman. That was irrelevant. The shot happening at all was the FAILURE. So as soon as I see ANYONE making a big deal about that particular female agent…I know that is just your typical political agenda jabs.
So I am a citizen who wants to know how the shot was able to happen. Who planned the security. Why were there apparently issues with communications. If specific folks are determined to be a fault by the investigations, man or woman, then fire or demote them. I also think the SS Director (who yes happens to be a woman) should resign because clearly there was a major breakdown.
Though I noticed the SS Director who was the same man in charge when both Ford AND Reagan got shot wasn't forced to resign. TWO POTUS shot on his watch and he kept his job, so
I guess there is historical precedence that an SS Director can skate through clean on this sort of things.
HarryJ33tamu said:Pumpkinhead said:
It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
No, but it's people like you that elected and support this regime. You are the reason our nation is now the laughing stock of the world.
You should be embarrassed for supporting this trash.
Pumpkinhead said:Ford got shot? I think I would have remembered that...ttu_85 said:Wow what an idiotic, simplistic statement. Care to add some detail. or is this another of your drive by trollsPumpkinhead said:
It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
What more detail is needed? It is what is is.
But here is a little more since you asked. The FAILURE in this case was the shooter getting into position to take a shot. Not that one of the several agents surrounding Trump AFTER he got shot happened to be a woman. That was irrelevant. The shot happening at all was the FAILURE. So as soon as I see ANYONE making a big deal about that particular female agent…I know that is just your typical political agenda jabs.
So I am a citizen who wants to know how the shot was able to happen. Who planned the security. Why were there apparently issues with communications. If specific folks are determined to be a fault by the investigations, man or woman, then fire or demote them. I also think the SS Director (who yes happens to be a woman) should resign because clearly there was a major breakdown.
Of course maybe this thread isn't about what went actually wrong last Saturday and is just an excuse to complain about women in law enforcement regardless of whether that was relevant in any way to specifically that Butler rally Fail.
Though I noticed the SS Director who was the same man in charge when both Ford AND Reagan got shot wasn't forced to resign. TWO POTUS shot on his watch and he kept his job!? so
I guess there is historical precedence that an SS Director can skate through clean on these sort of things. But IMO her head needs to roll.
They aren't watching it burn, they are watching it bloom.Quote:
Some people just want to watch the world burn
no, but the fact they had women as the front line protectors of the President when they were 1 foot shorter, looked confused as hell, couldn't holster their gun and were asking "what do we do, what do we do!" is indicative of a poorly run department that has lost its main focus, protecting the lives of our leaders at all costs not focusing on DEI.....Pumpkinhead said:
It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
HarryJ33tamu said:Pumpkinhead said:ttu_85 said:Wow what an idiotic, simplistic statement. Care to add some detail. or is this another of your drive by trollsPumpkinhead said:
It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
What more detail is needed? It is what is is.
But here is a little more since you asked. The FAILURE in this case was the shooter getting into position to take a shot. Not that one of the several agents surrounding Trump AFTER he got shot happened to be a woman. That was irrelevant. The shot happening at all was the FAILURE. So as soon as I see ANYONE making a big deal about that particular female agent…I know that is just your typical political agenda jabs.
So I am a citizen who wants to know how the shot was able to happen. Who planned the security. Why were there apparently issues with communications. If specific folks are determined to be a fault by the investigations, man or woman, then fire or demote them. I also think the SS Director (who yes happens to be a woman) should resign because clearly there was a major breakdown.
Though I noticed the SS Director who was the same man in charge when both Ford AND Reagan got shot wasn't forced to resign. TWO POTUS shot on his watch and he kept his job, so
I guess there is historical precedence that an SS Director can skate through clean on this sort of things.
The Director of SS is a DEI hire that was only hired because she is good friends with Jill Biden.
At best she is unbelievably incompetent in all aspects of her role.
But continue to be a good little leftist sheep and defend this incompetence.
A woman or a "woman", anyway.Artorias said:
100% that statement was written by one of the women at DHS
Nice detail and fair questions. See you can do it.Pumpkinhead said:ttu_85 said:Wow what an idiotic, simplistic statement. Care to add some detail. or is this another of your drive by trollsPumpkinhead said:
It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
What more detail is needed? It is what is is.
But here is a little more since you asked. The FAILURE in this case was the shooter getting into position to take a shot. Not that one of the several agents surrounding Trump AFTER he got shot happened to be a woman. That was irrelevant. The shot happening at all was the FAILURE. So as soon as I see ANYONE making a big deal about that particular female agent…I know that is just your typical political agenda jabs.
So I am a citizen who wants to know how the shot was able to happen. Who planned the security. Why were there apparently issues with communications. If specific folks are determined to be a fault by the investigations, man or woman, then fire or demote them. I also think the SS Director (who yes happens to be a woman) should resign because clearly there was a major breakdown.
Of course maybe this thread isn't about what went actually wrong last Saturday and is just an excuse to complain about women in law enforcement regardless of whether that was relevant in any way to specifically that Butler rally Fail.
Though I noticed the SS Director who was the same man in charge when both Ford AND Reagan got shot wasn't forced to resign. TWO POTUS shot on his watch and he kept his job!? so
I guess there is historical precedence that an SS Director can skate through clean on these sort of things. But IMO her head needs to roll.
You are mixing apples and oranges. The Secret Service protection at this event was terrible, on purpose or not. The head of the Secret Service should go. She happens to be a woman but should go even if it was a man. Others should likely go, for example, those responsible for how things were done at the event. Those responsible for how the Secret Service protection was implemented at the event should go, male or female.Pumpkinhead said:ttu_85 said:Wow what an idiotic, simplistic statement. Care to add some detail. or is this another of your drive by trollsPumpkinhead said:
It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
What more detail is needed? It is what is is.
But here is a little more since you asked. The FAILURE in this case was the shooter getting into position to take a shot. Not that one of the several agents surrounding Trump AFTER he got shot happened to be a woman. That was irrelevant. The shot happening at all was the FAILURE. So as soon as I see ANYONE making a big deal about that particular female agent…I know that is just your typical political agenda jabs.
So I am a citizen who wants to know how the shot was able to happen. Who planned the security. Why were there apparently issues with communications. If specific folks are determined to be a fault by the investigations, man or woman, then fire or demote them. I also think the SS Director (who yes happens to be a woman) should resign because clearly there was a major breakdown.
Of course maybe this thread isn't about what went actually wrong last Saturday and is just an excuse to complain about women in law enforcement regardless of whether that was relevant in any way to specifically that Butler rally Fail.
Though I noticed the SS Director who was the same man in charge when both Ford AND Reagan got shot wasn't forced to resign. TWO POTUS shot on his watch and he kept his job!? so
I guess there is historical precedence that an SS Director can skate through clean on these sort of things. But IMO her head needs to roll.
Pumpkinhead said:HarryJ33tamu said:Pumpkinhead said:ttu_85 said:Wow what an idiotic, simplistic statement. Care to add some detail. or is this another of your drive by trollsPumpkinhead said:
It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
What more detail is needed? It is what is is.
But here is a little more since you asked. The FAILURE in this case was the shooter getting into position to take a shot. Not that one of the several agents surrounding Trump AFTER he got shot happened to be a woman. That was irrelevant. The shot happening at all was the FAILURE. So as soon as I see ANYONE making a big deal about that particular female agent…I know that is just your typical political agenda jabs.
So I am a citizen who wants to know how the shot was able to happen. Who planned the security. Why were there apparently issues with communications. If specific folks are determined to be a fault by the investigations, man or woman, then fire or demote them. I also think the SS Director (who yes happens to be a woman) should resign because clearly there was a major breakdown.
Though I noticed the SS Director who was the same man in charge when both Ford AND Reagan got shot wasn't forced to resign. TWO POTUS shot on his watch and he kept his job, so
I guess there is historical precedence that an SS Director can skate through clean on this sort of things.
The Director of SS is a DEI hire that was only hired because she is good friends with Jill Biden.
At best she is unbelievably incompetent in all aspects of her role.
But continue to be a good little leftist sheep and defend this incompetence.
I said she should be forced to resign. How am I defending her? She should resign IMO. Why are you calling me a 'leftist'? Because you disagreed some opinion of mine? Ok. To each their own.
Pumpkinhead said:
It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
HarryJ33tamu said:Pumpkinhead said:
It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
No, but it's people like you that elected and support this regime. You are the reason our nation is now the laughing stock of the world.
You should be embarrassed for supporting this trash.
Edit - actually it is some woman's fault. And she should've resigned a week ago.
Tom Fox said:Pumpkinhead said:
It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
Every time a women enters a field that requires the use of physical force, the physical standards are lowered. They are given "extra" chances to demonstrate the minimum weapons proficiency.
Then they promote. They water down and pussify the rules of engagement and make being proactive and aggressive a problem.
I am a former local and federal Leo. I guarded the US Ambassador to Iraq for 2 years.
There shouldn't be a single female anywhere near a badge and gun. Ever.
They have ruined law enforcement's effectiveness in less than two generations.
I fully agree....Hell in the USSS they could be very useful in the financial crimes unit, as snipers, protecting the perimeter or looking for bad actors....But as the prime agents responsible for the protection of the president's body? no, and that is not a sexist thing, it is a size and physics thing....Pumpkinhead said:Tom Fox said:Pumpkinhead said:
It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
Every time a women enters a field that requires the use of physical force, the physical standards are lowered. They are given "extra" chances to demonstrate the minimum weapons proficiency.
Then they promote. They water down and pussify the rules of engagement and make being proactive and aggressive a problem.
I am a former local and federal Leo. I guarded the US Ambassador to Iraq for 2 years.
There shouldn't be a single female anywhere near a badge and gun. Ever.
They have ruined law enforcement's effectiveness in less than two generations.
"There shouldn't be a female anywhere near a badge and gun"
I respectfully disagree. I am sure there are some women in law enforcement who are quite capable and qualified. Law enforcement is not special operations. If we were talking SEALS, Delta, Green Berets, Marines, etc. then I totally agree with you.
But just blanket statement no woman in any law enforcement positions where they need to carry guns, I disagree.
HarryJ33tamu said:Pumpkinhead said:HarryJ33tamu said:Pumpkinhead said:ttu_85 said:Wow what an idiotic, simplistic statement. Care to add some detail. or is this another of your drive by trollsPumpkinhead said:
It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
What more detail is needed? It is what is is.
But here is a little more since you asked. The FAILURE in this case was the shooter getting into position to take a shot. Not that one of the several agents surrounding Trump AFTER he got shot happened to be a woman. That was irrelevant. The shot happening at all was the FAILURE. So as soon as I see ANYONE making a big deal about that particular female agent…I know that is just your typical political agenda jabs.
So I am a citizen who wants to know how the shot was able to happen. Who planned the security. Why were there apparently issues with communications. If specific folks are determined to be a fault by the investigations, man or woman, then fire or demote them. I also think the SS Director (who yes happens to be a woman) should resign because clearly there was a major breakdown.
Though I noticed the SS Director who was the same man in charge when both Ford AND Reagan got shot wasn't forced to resign. TWO POTUS shot on his watch and he kept his job, so
I guess there is historical precedence that an SS Director can skate through clean on this sort of things.
The Director of SS is a DEI hire that was only hired because she is good friends with Jill Biden.
At best she is unbelievably incompetent in all aspects of her role.
But continue to be a good little leftist sheep and defend this incompetence.
I said she should be forced to resign. How am I defending her? She should resign IMO. Why are you calling me a 'leftist'? Because you disagreed some opinion of mine? Ok. To each their own.
You're a conservative? Lol. There isn't a single conservative that isn't sick of all this DEI bullsh**.
You mock us with this statement: "It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board"
But you agree it was her fault?
How does that make sense?
Pumpkinhead said:HarryJ33tamu said:Pumpkinhead said:HarryJ33tamu said:Pumpkinhead said:ttu_85 said:Wow what an idiotic, simplistic statement. Care to add some detail. or is this another of your drive by trollsPumpkinhead said:
It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
What more detail is needed? It is what is is.
But here is a little more since you asked. The FAILURE in this case was the shooter getting into position to take a shot. Not that one of the several agents surrounding Trump AFTER he got shot happened to be a woman. That was irrelevant. The shot happening at all was the FAILURE. So as soon as I see ANYONE making a big deal about that particular female agent…I know that is just your typical political agenda jabs.
So I am a citizen who wants to know how the shot was able to happen. Who planned the security. Why were there apparently issues with communications. If specific folks are determined to be a fault by the investigations, man or woman, then fire or demote them. I also think the SS Director (who yes happens to be a woman) should resign because clearly there was a major breakdown.
Though I noticed the SS Director who was the same man in charge when both Ford AND Reagan got shot wasn't forced to resign. TWO POTUS shot on his watch and he kept his job, so
I guess there is historical precedence that an SS Director can skate through clean on this sort of things.
The Director of SS is a DEI hire that was only hired because she is good friends with Jill Biden.
At best she is unbelievably incompetent in all aspects of her role.
But continue to be a good little leftist sheep and defend this incompetence.
I said she should be forced to resign. How am I defending her? She should resign IMO. Why are you calling me a 'leftist'? Because you disagreed some opinion of mine? Ok. To each their own.
You're a conservative? Lol. There isn't a single conservative that isn't sick of all this DEI bullsh**.
You mock us with this statement: "It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board"
But you agree it was her fault?
How does that make sense?
I was talking about the female agent at Trump's rally seemingly getting excessively criticized for pretty much…being a woman (oh, and because of a few seconds of video clips even though nobody literally knows exactly how qualified or not the woman is, her background and experience, etc.) but she is getting dog piled on, seemingly.
The SS Director on the other hand should resign or be fired IMO.
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President Trump was nearly killed last weekend and they're more upset about and still pushing the woke DEI bull*****
Complete failure.
Female agents assigned to the spouse or kids need to be able to access everywhere including the bathrooms of their assigned protectee. So having one or two able to do that makes some sense.Quote:
I fully agree....Hell in the USSS they could be very useful in the financial crimes unit, as snipers, protecting the perimeter or looking for bad actors....But as the prime agents responsible for the protection of the president's body? no, and that is not a sexist thing, it is a size and physics thing....
Now stop that bull*****Pumpkinhead said:
It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
Raiderjay said:I fully agree....Hell in the USSS they could be very useful in the financial crimes unit, as snipers, protecting the perimeter or looking for bad actors....But as the prime agents responsible for the protection of the president's body? no, and that is not a sexist thing, it is a size and physics thing....Pumpkinhead said:Tom Fox said:Pumpkinhead said:
It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
Every time a women enters a field that requires the use of physical force, the physical standards are lowered. They are given "extra" chances to demonstrate the minimum weapons proficiency.
Then they promote. They water down and pussify the rules of engagement and make being proactive and aggressive a problem.
I am a former local and federal Leo. I guarded the US Ambassador to Iraq for 2 years.
There shouldn't be a single female anywhere near a badge and gun. Ever.
They have ruined law enforcement's effectiveness in less than two generations.
"There shouldn't be a female anywhere near a badge and gun"
I respectfully disagree. I am sure there are some women in law enforcement who are quite capable and qualified. Law enforcement is not special operations. If we were talking SEALS, Delta, Green Berets, Marines, etc. then I totally agree with you.
But just blanket statement no woman in any law enforcement positions where they need to carry guns, I disagree.
yes I saw the full video, and if you did as well you saw 3 confused, scared, disorganized women compared to the dudes who were calculated.......The video doesn't lie, they were not prepared or properly trained/capable of what they were supposed to doPumpkinhead said:Raiderjay said:I fully agree....Hell in the USSS they could be very useful in the financial crimes unit, as snipers, protecting the perimeter or looking for bad actors....But as the prime agents responsible for the protection of the president's body? no, and that is not a sexist thing, it is a size and physics thing....Pumpkinhead said:Tom Fox said:Pumpkinhead said:
It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
Every time a women enters a field that requires the use of physical force, the physical standards are lowered. They are given "extra" chances to demonstrate the minimum weapons proficiency.
Then they promote. They water down and pussify the rules of engagement and make being proactive and aggressive a problem.
I am a former local and federal Leo. I guarded the US Ambassador to Iraq for 2 years.
There shouldn't be a single female anywhere near a badge and gun. Ever.
They have ruined law enforcement's effectiveness in less than two generations.
"There shouldn't be a female anywhere near a badge and gun"
I respectfully disagree. I am sure there are some women in law enforcement who are quite capable and qualified. Law enforcement is not special operations. If we were talking SEALS, Delta, Green Berets, Marines, etc. then I totally agree with you.
But just blanket statement no woman in any law enforcement positions where they need to carry guns, I disagree.
Watch the video. When Trump grabs his ear and ducks, you see like 1 second later two big dudes who were sitting immediately behind Trump jump up and from either side they smother him. Those were clearly the guys whose primary role was to be closest to Trump and be the first to react if the worst happened.
The female agent was one of several other agents from farther away who then piled in as a few more seconds ticked by.
And one of them clearly asked, "What are we doing?" Training would mean she never would ask that. Protection and extraction in that order. Keep him down and covered as long as required.Quote:
The video doesn't lie, they were not prepared or properly trained/capable of what they were supposed to do
Pumpkinhead said:Tom Fox said:Pumpkinhead said:
It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
Every time a women enters a field that requires the use of physical force, the physical standards are lowered. They are given "extra" chances to demonstrate the minimum weapons proficiency.
Then they promote. They water down and pussify the rules of engagement and make being proactive and aggressive a problem.
I am a former local and federal Leo. I guarded the US Ambassador to Iraq for 2 years.
There shouldn't be a single female anywhere near a badge and gun. Ever.
They have ruined law enforcement's effectiveness in less than two generations.
"There shouldn't be a female anywhere near a badge and gun"
I respectfully disagree. I am sure there are some women in law enforcement who are quite capable and qualified. Law enforcement is not special operations. If we were talking SEALS, Delta, Green Berets, Marines, etc. then I totally agree with you.
But just blanket statement no woman in any law enforcement positions where they need to carry guns, I disagree.