DHS Releases Statement

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Pumpkinhead
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It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
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Ramdiesel said:

one safe place said:

DHS playing the victim card as you might expect.


This is what is crazy about these Liberals. I guess they are mad that they don't get a participation trophy for completely sucking at the most basic and elementary parts of their job. That Cheatle lady should just admit she's way out of her element and resign, people would have more respect for her.
Well, she did brag about having 30% women in the SS by 2030 instead of bragging about improved training or competence of officers or agents.

Its their own DEI-- 'WHAT you are and not WHO you are', boasting that leads people to doubt the competence of their agencies. Especially when the screw up is of this magnitude.

Sure there are competent woman and there are incompetent ones in jobs/roles they are physically ill suited to perform. But hey they, the Gov, get to brag SPECIFICALLY about those DEI, a.k.a. race/gender based hiring numbers.

They created this monster and now they ***** about the reaction.
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Pumpkinhead said:

It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
Wow what an idiotic, simplistic statement. Care to add some detail. or is this another of your drive by trolls
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Yep. Blame the ones who notice it's crappy by calling them every name in the book
God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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ttu_85 said:

Pumpkinhead said:

It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
Wow what an idiotic, simplistic statement. Care to add some detail. or is this another of your drive by trolls


What more detail is needed? It is what is is.

But here is a little more since you asked. The FAILURE in this case was the shooter getting into position to take a shot. Not that one of the several agents surrounding Trump AFTER he got shot happened to be a woman. That was irrelevant. The shot happening at all was the FAILURE. So as soon as I see ANYONE making a big deal about that particular female agent…I know that is just your typical political agenda jabs.

So I am a citizen who wants to know how the shot was able to happen. Who planned the security. Why were there apparently issues with communications. If specific folks are determined to be a fault by the investigations, man or woman, then fire or demote them. I also think the SS Director (who yes happens to be a woman) should resign because clearly there was a major breakdown.

Of course maybe this thread isn't about what went actually wrong last Saturday and is just an excuse to complain about women in law enforcement regardless of whether that was relevant in any way to specifically that Butler rally Fail.

Though I noticed the SS Director who was the same man in charge when both Ford AND Reagan got shot wasn't forced to resign. TWO POTUS shot on his watch and he kept his job!? so
I guess there is historical precedence that an SS Director can skate through clean on these sort of things. But IMO her head needs to roll.
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A) The Sebate doesn't do appropriations
B) He's the Senator from Pennsylvania where this happened
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Where was Stormy Daniel's when all this went "down?"
zephyr88
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face it, no matter how hard they try to boost them up, women are not alpha material and aren't 'equal' in everything.
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I was hoping they had a 'real' response regarding their failure to protect President Trump.

Instead, their first public response is nothing more than a DEI deflection.
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Pumpkinhead said:

It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board


No, but it's people like you that elected and support this regime. You are the reason our nation is now the laughing stock of the world.

You should be embarrassed for supporting this trash.

Edit - actually it is some woman's fault. And she should've resigned a week ago.
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Pumpkinhead said:

ttu_85 said:

Pumpkinhead said:

It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
Wow what an idiotic, simplistic statement. Care to add some detail. or is this another of your drive by trolls


What more detail is needed? It is what is is.

But here is a little more since you asked. The FAILURE in this case was the shooter getting into position to take a shot. Not that one of the several agents surrounding Trump AFTER he got shot happened to be a woman. That was irrelevant. The shot happening at all was the FAILURE. So as soon as I see ANYONE making a big deal about that particular female agent…I know that is just your typical political agenda jabs.

So I am a citizen who wants to know how the shot was able to happen. Who planned the security. Why were there apparently issues with communications. If specific folks are determined to be a fault by the investigations, man or woman, then fire or demote them. I also think the SS Director (who yes happens to be a woman) should resign because clearly there was a major breakdown.

Though I noticed the SS Director who was the same man in charge when both Ford AND Reagan got shot wasn't forced to resign. TWO POTUS shot on his watch and he kept his job, so
I guess there is historical precedence that an SS Director can skate through clean on this sort of things.


The Director of SS is a DEI hire that was only hired because she is good friends with Jill Biden.

At best she is unbelievably incompetent in all aspects of her role.

But continue to be a good little leftist sheep and defend this incompetence.
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HarryJ33tamu said:

Pumpkinhead said:

It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board


No, but it's people like you that elected and support this regime. You are the reason our nation is now the laughing stock of the world.

You should be embarrassed for supporting this trash.


Am voting for Trump and hope he wins. I am conservative who simply doesn't like the all the politcal rhetoric crap. Have tired of it.
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Pumpkinhead said:

ttu_85 said:

Pumpkinhead said:

It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
Wow what an idiotic, simplistic statement. Care to add some detail. or is this another of your drive by trolls
Ford got shot? I think I would have remembered that...

What more detail is needed? It is what is is.

But here is a little more since you asked. The FAILURE in this case was the shooter getting into position to take a shot. Not that one of the several agents surrounding Trump AFTER he got shot happened to be a woman. That was irrelevant. The shot happening at all was the FAILURE. So as soon as I see ANYONE making a big deal about that particular female agent…I know that is just your typical political agenda jabs.

So I am a citizen who wants to know how the shot was able to happen. Who planned the security. Why were there apparently issues with communications. If specific folks are determined to be a fault by the investigations, man or woman, then fire or demote them. I also think the SS Director (who yes happens to be a woman) should resign because clearly there was a major breakdown.

Of course maybe this thread isn't about what went actually wrong last Saturday and is just an excuse to complain about women in law enforcement regardless of whether that was relevant in any way to specifically that Butler rally Fail.

Though I noticed the SS Director who was the same man in charge when both Ford AND Reagan got shot wasn't forced to resign. TWO POTUS shot on his watch and he kept his job!? so
I guess there is historical precedence that an SS Director can skate through clean on these sort of things. But IMO her head needs to roll.

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Some people just want to watch the world burn
They aren't watching it burn, they are watching it bloom.
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Pumpkinhead said:

It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
no, but the fact they had women as the front line protectors of the President when they were 1 foot shorter, looked confused as hell, couldn't holster their gun and were asking "what do we do, what do we do!" is indicative of a poorly run department that has lost its main focus, protecting the lives of our leaders at all costs not focusing on DEI.....
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HarryJ33tamu said:

Pumpkinhead said:

ttu_85 said:

Pumpkinhead said:

It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
Wow what an idiotic, simplistic statement. Care to add some detail. or is this another of your drive by trolls


What more detail is needed? It is what is is.

But here is a little more since you asked. The FAILURE in this case was the shooter getting into position to take a shot. Not that one of the several agents surrounding Trump AFTER he got shot happened to be a woman. That was irrelevant. The shot happening at all was the FAILURE. So as soon as I see ANYONE making a big deal about that particular female agent…I know that is just your typical political agenda jabs.

So I am a citizen who wants to know how the shot was able to happen. Who planned the security. Why were there apparently issues with communications. If specific folks are determined to be a fault by the investigations, man or woman, then fire or demote them. I also think the SS Director (who yes happens to be a woman) should resign because clearly there was a major breakdown.

Though I noticed the SS Director who was the same man in charge when both Ford AND Reagan got shot wasn't forced to resign. TWO POTUS shot on his watch and he kept his job, so
I guess there is historical precedence that an SS Director can skate through clean on this sort of things.


The Director of SS is a DEI hire that was only hired because she is good friends with Jill Biden.

At best she is unbelievably incompetent in all aspects of her role.

But continue to be a good little leftist sheep and defend this incompetence.


I said she should be forced to resign. How am I defending her? She should resign IMO. Why are you calling me a 'leftist'? Because you disagreed some opinion of mine? Ok. To each their own.
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Artorias said:

100% that statement was written by one of the women at DHS
A woman or a "woman", anyway.
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Pumpkinhead said:

ttu_85 said:

Pumpkinhead said:

It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
Wow what an idiotic, simplistic statement. Care to add some detail. or is this another of your drive by trolls


What more detail is needed? It is what is is.

But here is a little more since you asked. The FAILURE in this case was the shooter getting into position to take a shot. Not that one of the several agents surrounding Trump AFTER he got shot happened to be a woman. That was irrelevant. The shot happening at all was the FAILURE. So as soon as I see ANYONE making a big deal about that particular female agent…I know that is just your typical political agenda jabs.

So I am a citizen who wants to know how the shot was able to happen. Who planned the security. Why were there apparently issues with communications. If specific folks are determined to be a fault by the investigations, man or woman, then fire or demote them. I also think the SS Director (who yes happens to be a woman) should resign because clearly there was a major breakdown.

Of course maybe this thread isn't about what went actually wrong last Saturday and is just an excuse to complain about women in law enforcement regardless of whether that was relevant in any way to specifically that Butler rally Fail.

Though I noticed the SS Director who was the same man in charge when both Ford AND Reagan got shot wasn't forced to resign. TWO POTUS shot on his watch and he kept his job!? so
I guess there is historical precedence that an SS Director can skate through clean on these sort of things. But IMO her head needs to roll.
Nice detail and fair questions. See you can do it.

But remember its the left that makes the loudest noises regarding gender. The new SS boss herself was bragging about bringing women to 30% of SS employees by 2030. When they CONSTANTLY shove this stuff around people get tired of it.

Honestly if people looked at merit only, the chips would land were they are supposed to.
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Pumpkinhead said:

ttu_85 said:

Pumpkinhead said:

It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
Wow what an idiotic, simplistic statement. Care to add some detail. or is this another of your drive by trolls


What more detail is needed? It is what is is.

But here is a little more since you asked. The FAILURE in this case was the shooter getting into position to take a shot. Not that one of the several agents surrounding Trump AFTER he got shot happened to be a woman. That was irrelevant. The shot happening at all was the FAILURE. So as soon as I see ANYONE making a big deal about that particular female agent…I know that is just your typical political agenda jabs.

So I am a citizen who wants to know how the shot was able to happen. Who planned the security. Why were there apparently issues with communications. If specific folks are determined to be a fault by the investigations, man or woman, then fire or demote them. I also think the SS Director (who yes happens to be a woman) should resign because clearly there was a major breakdown.

Of course maybe this thread isn't about what went actually wrong last Saturday and is just an excuse to complain about women in law enforcement regardless of whether that was relevant in any way to specifically that Butler rally Fail.

Though I noticed the SS Director who was the same man in charge when both Ford AND Reagan got shot wasn't forced to resign. TWO POTUS shot on his watch and he kept his job!? so
I guess there is historical precedence that an SS Director can skate through clean on these sort of things. But IMO her head needs to roll.
You are mixing apples and oranges. The Secret Service protection at this event was terrible, on purpose or not. The head of the Secret Service should go. She happens to be a woman but should go even if it was a man. Others should likely go, for example, those responsible for how things were done at the event. Those responsible for how the Secret Service protection was implemented at the event should go, male or female.

You should never have a 5'6" agent (even shorter when bent over like she was) guarding a 6'3" person. Matters not if the agent was a 5'6" female, or a 5'6" male. Pretty simple really.

If an investigation turns up there was a decision made to provide less than optimal protection for Trump, in terms of number of personnel, quality of personnel, etc., then those involved should be prosecuted, whether male of female.

Nice try though playing the gender card.

Hope this helps.
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Pumpkinhead said:

HarryJ33tamu said:

Pumpkinhead said:

ttu_85 said:

Pumpkinhead said:

It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
Wow what an idiotic, simplistic statement. Care to add some detail. or is this another of your drive by trolls


What more detail is needed? It is what is is.

But here is a little more since you asked. The FAILURE in this case was the shooter getting into position to take a shot. Not that one of the several agents surrounding Trump AFTER he got shot happened to be a woman. That was irrelevant. The shot happening at all was the FAILURE. So as soon as I see ANYONE making a big deal about that particular female agent…I know that is just your typical political agenda jabs.

So I am a citizen who wants to know how the shot was able to happen. Who planned the security. Why were there apparently issues with communications. If specific folks are determined to be a fault by the investigations, man or woman, then fire or demote them. I also think the SS Director (who yes happens to be a woman) should resign because clearly there was a major breakdown.

Though I noticed the SS Director who was the same man in charge when both Ford AND Reagan got shot wasn't forced to resign. TWO POTUS shot on his watch and he kept his job, so
I guess there is historical precedence that an SS Director can skate through clean on this sort of things.


The Director of SS is a DEI hire that was only hired because she is good friends with Jill Biden.

At best she is unbelievably incompetent in all aspects of her role.

But continue to be a good little leftist sheep and defend this incompetence.


I said she should be forced to resign. How am I defending her? She should resign IMO. Why are you calling me a 'leftist'? Because you disagreed some opinion of mine? Ok. To each their own.


You're a conservative? Lol. There isn't a single conservative that isn't sick of all this DEI bullsh**.

You mock us with this statement: "It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board"

But you agree it was her fault?

How does that make sense?
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Pumpkinhead said:

It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board


Every time a women enters a field that requires the use of physical force, the physical standards are lowered. They are given "extra" chances to demonstrate the minimum weapons proficiency.

Then they promote. They water down and pussify the rules of engagement and make being proactive and aggressive a problem.

I am a former local and federal Leo. I guarded the US Ambassador to Iraq for 2 years.

There shouldn't be a single female anywhere near a badge and gun. Ever.

They have ruined law enforcement's effectiveness in less than two generations.
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HarryJ33tamu said:

Pumpkinhead said:

It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board


No, but it's people like you that elected and support this regime. You are the reason our nation is now the laughing stock of the world.

You should be embarrassed for supporting this trash.

Edit - actually it is some woman's fault. And she should've resigned a week ago.

I had wondered what a pumpkin head is.
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Tom Fox said:

Pumpkinhead said:

It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board


Every time a women enters a field that requires the use of physical force, the physical standards are lowered. They are given "extra" chances to demonstrate the minimum weapons proficiency.

Then they promote. They water down and pussify the rules of engagement and make being proactive and aggressive a problem.

I am a former local and federal Leo. I guarded the US Ambassador to Iraq for 2 years.

There shouldn't be a single female anywhere near a badge and gun. Ever.

They have ruined law enforcement's effectiveness in less than two generations.


"There shouldn't be a female anywhere near a badge and gun"

I respectfully disagree. I am sure there are some women in law enforcement who are quite capable and qualified. Law enforcement is not special operations. If we were talking SEALS, Delta, Green Berets, Marines, etc. then I totally agree with you.

But just blanket statement no woman in any law enforcement positions where they need to carry guns, I disagree.
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Lax security gets one man killed, 3 others wounded, and this is basically the first thing they've shared. Ridiculous. Clown show agency.
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Pumpkinhead said:

Tom Fox said:

Pumpkinhead said:

It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board


Every time a women enters a field that requires the use of physical force, the physical standards are lowered. They are given "extra" chances to demonstrate the minimum weapons proficiency.

Then they promote. They water down and pussify the rules of engagement and make being proactive and aggressive a problem.

I am a former local and federal Leo. I guarded the US Ambassador to Iraq for 2 years.

There shouldn't be a single female anywhere near a badge and gun. Ever.

They have ruined law enforcement's effectiveness in less than two generations.


"There shouldn't be a female anywhere near a badge and gun"

I respectfully disagree. I am sure there are some women in law enforcement who are quite capable and qualified. Law enforcement is not special operations. If we were talking SEALS, Delta, Green Berets, Marines, etc. then I totally agree with you.

But just blanket statement no woman in any law enforcement positions where they need to carry guns, I disagree.

I fully agree....Hell in the USSS they could be very useful in the financial crimes unit, as snipers, protecting the perimeter or looking for bad actors....But as the prime agents responsible for the protection of the president's body? no, and that is not a sexist thing, it is a size and physics thing....
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HarryJ33tamu said:

Pumpkinhead said:

HarryJ33tamu said:

Pumpkinhead said:

ttu_85 said:

Pumpkinhead said:

It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
Wow what an idiotic, simplistic statement. Care to add some detail. or is this another of your drive by trolls


What more detail is needed? It is what is is.

But here is a little more since you asked. The FAILURE in this case was the shooter getting into position to take a shot. Not that one of the several agents surrounding Trump AFTER he got shot happened to be a woman. That was irrelevant. The shot happening at all was the FAILURE. So as soon as I see ANYONE making a big deal about that particular female agent…I know that is just your typical political agenda jabs.

So I am a citizen who wants to know how the shot was able to happen. Who planned the security. Why were there apparently issues with communications. If specific folks are determined to be a fault by the investigations, man or woman, then fire or demote them. I also think the SS Director (who yes happens to be a woman) should resign because clearly there was a major breakdown.

Though I noticed the SS Director who was the same man in charge when both Ford AND Reagan got shot wasn't forced to resign. TWO POTUS shot on his watch and he kept his job, so
I guess there is historical precedence that an SS Director can skate through clean on this sort of things.


The Director of SS is a DEI hire that was only hired because she is good friends with Jill Biden.

At best she is unbelievably incompetent in all aspects of her role.

But continue to be a good little leftist sheep and defend this incompetence.


I said she should be forced to resign. How am I defending her? She should resign IMO. Why are you calling me a 'leftist'? Because you disagreed some opinion of mine? Ok. To each their own.


You're a conservative? Lol. There isn't a single conservative that isn't sick of all this DEI bullsh**.

You mock us with this statement: "It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board"

But you agree it was her fault?

How does that make sense?


I was talking about the female agent at Trump's rally seemingly getting excessively criticized for pretty much…being a woman (oh, and because of a few seconds of video clips even though nobody literally knows exactly how qualified or not the woman is, her background and experience, etc.) but she is getting dog piled on, seemingly.

The SS Director on the other hand should resign or be fired IMO.
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Pumpkinhead said:

HarryJ33tamu said:

Pumpkinhead said:

HarryJ33tamu said:

Pumpkinhead said:

ttu_85 said:

Pumpkinhead said:

It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
Wow what an idiotic, simplistic statement. Care to add some detail. or is this another of your drive by trolls


What more detail is needed? It is what is is.

But here is a little more since you asked. The FAILURE in this case was the shooter getting into position to take a shot. Not that one of the several agents surrounding Trump AFTER he got shot happened to be a woman. That was irrelevant. The shot happening at all was the FAILURE. So as soon as I see ANYONE making a big deal about that particular female agent…I know that is just your typical political agenda jabs.

So I am a citizen who wants to know how the shot was able to happen. Who planned the security. Why were there apparently issues with communications. If specific folks are determined to be a fault by the investigations, man or woman, then fire or demote them. I also think the SS Director (who yes happens to be a woman) should resign because clearly there was a major breakdown.

Though I noticed the SS Director who was the same man in charge when both Ford AND Reagan got shot wasn't forced to resign. TWO POTUS shot on his watch and he kept his job, so
I guess there is historical precedence that an SS Director can skate through clean on this sort of things.


The Director of SS is a DEI hire that was only hired because she is good friends with Jill Biden.

At best she is unbelievably incompetent in all aspects of her role.

But continue to be a good little leftist sheep and defend this incompetence.


I said she should be forced to resign. How am I defending her? She should resign IMO. Why are you calling me a 'leftist'? Because you disagreed some opinion of mine? Ok. To each their own.


You're a conservative? Lol. There isn't a single conservative that isn't sick of all this DEI bullsh**.

You mock us with this statement: "It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board"

But you agree it was her fault?

How does that make sense?


I was talking about the female agent at Trump's rally seemingly getting excessively criticized for pretty much…being a woman (oh, and because of a few seconds of video clips even though nobody literally knows exactly how qualified or not the woman is, her background and experience, etc.) but she is getting dog piled on, seemingly.

The SS Director on the other hand should resign or be fired IMO.



Can you quote me one post where any Texag user said it was that agent's fault Trump got shot?

You're defending DEI. Quit moving the goalposts.
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President Trump was nearly killed last weekend and they're more upset about and still pushing the woke DEI bull*****

Complete failure.

I'm a woman and they are not baseless or insulting.

You can't have women that are shorter than the person they have to protect. They can have some role in protection, but not when it comes to surrounding a president who's taller than them.

And the few women that were fumbling with their guns and ducking and not knowing what the hell they were doing?

No they weren't OK.

The recon team, regardless of its genders, has been criminal in their failure.

I'm sure there are some women that would do very well in these roles, but what we saw last week was just incompetence at its highest level. Maybe some of the men, too.

And it's interesting that they take the time to push out this statement but haven't fired the incompetent head of the Secret Service and are not cooperating easily or at all with an investigation. Quit pushing this bull***** The USSS head, who should've resigned already, was pushing women DEI bull**** over safety.
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I fully agree....Hell in the USSS they could be very useful in the financial crimes unit, as snipers, protecting the perimeter or looking for bad actors....But as the prime agents responsible for the protection of the president's body? no, and that is not a sexist thing, it is a size and physics thing....
Female agents assigned to the spouse or kids need to be able to access everywhere including the bathrooms of their assigned protectee. So having one or two able to do that makes some sense.
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Pumpkinhead said:

It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board
Now stop that bull*****

The recon team is at fault, regardless of their gender make up, but after the fact, we saw many of the women were very inept, confused in their actions, couldn't even manage their guns, jumping around all over the place nervously, which is understandable, but there was a lack of control there.

And even the woman who is trying desperately with the group to get him off the stage was too small to be guarding President Trump. She just wasn't capable of it.

These things are not mutually exclusive.

But seriously, stop that bull****, now, it makes you look really bad and childish.
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Raiderjay said:

Pumpkinhead said:

Tom Fox said:

Pumpkinhead said:

It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board


Every time a women enters a field that requires the use of physical force, the physical standards are lowered. They are given "extra" chances to demonstrate the minimum weapons proficiency.

Then they promote. They water down and pussify the rules of engagement and make being proactive and aggressive a problem.

I am a former local and federal Leo. I guarded the US Ambassador to Iraq for 2 years.

There shouldn't be a single female anywhere near a badge and gun. Ever.

They have ruined law enforcement's effectiveness in less than two generations.


"There shouldn't be a female anywhere near a badge and gun"

I respectfully disagree. I am sure there are some women in law enforcement who are quite capable and qualified. Law enforcement is not special operations. If we were talking SEALS, Delta, Green Berets, Marines, etc. then I totally agree with you.

But just blanket statement no woman in any law enforcement positions where they need to carry guns, I disagree.

I fully agree....Hell in the USSS they could be very useful in the financial crimes unit, as snipers, protecting the perimeter or looking for bad actors....But as the prime agents responsible for the protection of the president's body? no, and that is not a sexist thing, it is a size and physics thing....


Watch the video. When Trump grabs his ear and ducks, you see like 1 second later two big dudes who were sitting immediately behind Trump jump up and from either side they smother him. Those were clearly the guys whose primary role was to be closest to Trump and be the first to react if the worst happened.

The female agent was one of several other agents from farther away who then piled in as a few more seconds ticked by.
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Statement may as well have said "we are the Democratic Party and you extreme right white male racists and sexists are the problem with society."
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Pumpkinhead said:

Raiderjay said:

Pumpkinhead said:

Tom Fox said:

Pumpkinhead said:

It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board


Every time a women enters a field that requires the use of physical force, the physical standards are lowered. They are given "extra" chances to demonstrate the minimum weapons proficiency.

Then they promote. They water down and pussify the rules of engagement and make being proactive and aggressive a problem.

I am a former local and federal Leo. I guarded the US Ambassador to Iraq for 2 years.

There shouldn't be a single female anywhere near a badge and gun. Ever.

They have ruined law enforcement's effectiveness in less than two generations.


"There shouldn't be a female anywhere near a badge and gun"

I respectfully disagree. I am sure there are some women in law enforcement who are quite capable and qualified. Law enforcement is not special operations. If we were talking SEALS, Delta, Green Berets, Marines, etc. then I totally agree with you.

But just blanket statement no woman in any law enforcement positions where they need to carry guns, I disagree.

I fully agree....Hell in the USSS they could be very useful in the financial crimes unit, as snipers, protecting the perimeter or looking for bad actors....But as the prime agents responsible for the protection of the president's body? no, and that is not a sexist thing, it is a size and physics thing....


Watch the video. When Trump grabs his ear and ducks, you see like 1 second later two big dudes who were sitting immediately behind Trump jump up and from either side they smother him. Those were clearly the guys whose primary role was to be closest to Trump and be the first to react if the worst happened.

The female agent was one of several other agents from farther away who then piled in as a few more seconds ticked by.

yes I saw the full video, and if you did as well you saw 3 confused, scared, disorganized women compared to the dudes who were calculated.......The video doesn't lie, they were not prepared or properly trained/capable of what they were supposed to do
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The video doesn't lie, they were not prepared or properly trained/capable of what they were supposed to do
And one of them clearly asked, "What are we doing?" Training would mean she never would ask that. Protection and extraction in that order. Keep him down and covered as long as required.

When you hear the words, "Hawkeye" has arrived and is "on scene," the extraction vehicle is in place and ready to go. (Posibly covered with hydraulic fluid but there.)
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It must have been some women's fault that Trump got shot - TexAgs Politics Board


Every time a women enters a field that requires the use of physical force, the physical standards are lowered. They are given "extra" chances to demonstrate the minimum weapons proficiency.

Then they promote. They water down and pussify the rules of engagement and make being proactive and aggressive a problem.

I am a former local and federal Leo. I guarded the US Ambassador to Iraq for 2 years.

There shouldn't be a single female anywhere near a badge and gun. Ever.

They have ruined law enforcement's effectiveness in less than two generations.


"There shouldn't be a female anywhere near a badge and gun"

I respectfully disagree. I am sure there are some women in law enforcement who are quite capable and qualified. Law enforcement is not special operations. If we were talking SEALS, Delta, Green Berets, Marines, etc. then I totally agree with you.

But just blanket statement no woman in any law enforcement positions where they need to carry guns, I disagree.



That's really easy to say from a guy that hasn't repeatedly fought someone while his female partner just watched and cheered him on. Or where you've jumped a couple of privacy fences chasing an armed suspect and your female partner is nowhere to be found but is on the radio running her suck so you can even key up and tell the other male officers where you are to actually get some real assistance.

Or where female agents don't shoot a guy running around a house carrying a Mac11 to where I am in the backyard and never received a single warning

There are absolutely some oxygen thief male agents but split tails are universally bad and not worth the drama they bring into the agency.
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