Shots fired at Trump [Keep it factual -- Staff]

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The latest report suggests that Butler comms were recorded so we should have some radio call from the guy that peeked over the roof or the guy that boosted him. Would like to know the exact amount of time that passed between looking over the roof and shots fired. Whatever amount of time elapsed it seems incredulous that the snipers couldn't have acquired him in that time. So were they looking at him while he set up and shot? We may never know.
Looking more and more like Butler officer's and Trumpers on the ground are the real heroes and the USSS got got sleepin. If it were just up to USSS, Trump is likely dead and our nation is in turmoil at this very moment still.
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I think his original plan was to nail Trump with a head shot and while the chaos broke out detonate the car as a distraction and hot foot it to the van across the street and get away. Didn't work out well for him.
I think the SS may actively jam frequencies to prevent explosives from being set off. I'm pretty sure the military did the same in Afghanistan and Iraq to defeat roadside IEDs. The hobbyist electronic equipment he had broadcasts in known unlicensed frequency bands, so they wouldn't need to jam DC to daylight.
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Texmid
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My recollection is that the receivers on the explosives were not turned on. Maybe in the excitement of the day he forgot to switch them on?
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DJT needs to understand what cleaning out really means. He definitely didn't understand that during his first term as President.
Good post, if difficult to understand completely. Overhauling the Federal employment complex (ie. draining the swamp) is a monumental task and virtually impossible. Working at the margins with trying to reform the CIA, FBI, USSS, ad infinitum is more than any one Administration could possibly hope to accomplish. I honestly believe we've passed the point of no return. The Bureaucracy (spoils system) has taken on a life of its own, and nothing can reverse the inevitability. Cynical, no doubt, but realistic too!

I appreciate very much your perspective and experience. Always enjoy and learn from your posts.
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Texmid said:

My recollection is that the receivers on the explosives were not turned on. Maybe in the excitement of the day he forgot to switch them on?
Hadn't read that. I do know that LE removed the battery from his transmitter. And even if it were turned on, his brain got splatted before he ever would have had a chance to use it.
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Well according to the Beaver County report that was released to Grassley the two improvised explosive devices found in Thomas Matthew Crooks' car following his failed assassination attempt used electric matches and a radio-controlled system designed for initiating fireworks -- both of which can be readily purchased online. The devices were wired to detonate on two separate circuits and signals located in the trunk of his 1994 white Hyundai parked in the lot adjacent to the AGR complex. Materials matching the devices were also found in the van home parked in the neighborhood across from the fairgrounds. No mentioned of them being either turned on or off just that they were wired to detonate.
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40-days and 183 pages later and Trump forced to campaign from a bulletproof glass box.
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40-days and 183 pages later and Trump forced to campaign from a bulletproof glass box.
As planned and put on the shoulders of this lady



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40-days and 183 pages later and Trump forced to campaign from a bulletproof glass box.



Trump did have USSS on their toes when he decided to step outside the glass to check on the lady that fainted. Watching them work the crowd was much more professional looking.






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“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
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It's been a while since the shooting. Seems odd to me as an outsider that it would take this much time. It seems local cops are placed on leave immediately after they shoot someone, pending an investigation. I realize this is different but still.
Trump will fix it.
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3 encrypted foreign accounts...nothing in terms of an explanation...BEYOND SUSPICIOUS.
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I need to know a little more though. "I don't want to use Gmail" so he picked some third party email might qualify as an "encrypted foreign account". Or using a crypto wallet. It could be nefarious, or the technical aptitude of a highschooler.
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Decay said:

I need to know a little more though. "I don't want to use Gmail" so he picked some third party email might qualify as an "encrypted foreign account". Or using a crypto wallet. It could be nefarious, or the technical aptitude of a highschooler.
If that were the case, I would think it would be known by now and "made known" by the authorities in order to dispel public suspicion.
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Decay said:

I need to know a little more though. "I don't want to use Gmail" so he picked some third party email might qualify as an "encrypted foreign account". Or using a crypto wallet. It could be nefarious, or the technical aptitude of a highschooler.
If that were the case, I would think it would be known by now and "made known" by the authorities in order to dispel public suspicions.

I don't think that at all. I bet they're perfectly fine trickling out info to drive wild speculation and obfuscate the multiple levels of failure that happened.

The more conspiracy and debate they can spin up, the less substance they have to actually deal with. They can get self righteous and claim how irresponsible it is to speculate while they gather facts. Meanwhile they cremated the body and hosed off the roof and disappeared the weapon and devices and cars and etc etc.
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USSS posts up at Trump rally today in AZ
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USSS posts up at Trump rally today in AZ


That's a dangerous spot, anyone with a ghillie suit could post up on those mountains around there with a good hunting rifle and be really hard to spot...Hope he has the bullet proof glass all around..
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Ramdiesel said:

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USSS posts up at Trump rally today in AZ


That's a dangerous spot, anyone with a ghillie suit could post up on those mountains around there with a good hunting rifle and be really hard to spot...Hope he has the bullet proof glass all around..

Depends how far they are. Over 150 yards I've got it on good authority it's not worth watching
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Decay said:

I need to know a little more though. "I don't want to use Gmail" so he picked some third party email might qualify as an "encrypted foreign account". Or using a crypto wallet. It could be nefarious, or the technical aptitude of a highschooler.
yep. this whole accusatory line related to encrypted email and foreign servers is troubling imo. the reasons are pretty obvious if you think about it.
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Decay said:

Ramdiesel said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:



USSS posts up at Trump rally today in AZ


That's a dangerous spot, anyone with a ghillie suit could post up on those mountains around there with a good hunting rifle and be really hard to spot...Hope he has the bullet proof glass all around..

Depends how far they are. Over 150 yards I've got it on good authority it's not worth watching


LOL! Yeah, I hope they are paying attention. Plenty of hunters out West with all kinds of expensive equipment and rifles shooting a thousand plus easily...
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Texas velvet maestro said:

Decay said:

I need to know a little more though. "I don't want to use Gmail" so he picked some third party email might qualify as an "encrypted foreign account". Or using a crypto wallet. It could be nefarious, or the technical aptitude of a highschooler.
yep. this whole accusatory line related to encrypted email and foreign servers is troubling imo. the reasons are pretty obvious if you think about it.

For sure it could be a smoking gun for some pretty cataclysmic revelations

...or basically meaningless. They are leaving us in the dark about something that could have huge implications. I find it irresponsible but it's par for the course at this point with the official investigation.
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whatthehey78 said:

Decay said:

I need to know a little more though. "I don't want to use Gmail" so he picked some third party email might qualify as an "encrypted foreign account". Or using a crypto wallet. It could be nefarious, or the technical aptitude of a highschooler.
If that were the case, I would think it would be known by now and "made known" by the authorities in order to dispel public suspicion.


My instinct is exactly the opposite. It isn't in the best interests of "the authorities" to dispel any confusion or explain anything.

The authorities are the same people who knew from the very beginning that the alleged server in Trump Tower communicating with Alfa Bank was a Clinton campaign disinformation operation. The authorities don't want the Nashville shooter's motives and writings to be known by the public. The authorities' best interests are served when there is uncertainty.

In the case of Crooks, they will use vague references to encrypted offshore accounts to stoke people's imagination of foreign puppet masters. They want attention focused anywhere but on themselves.
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40-days and 183 pages later and Trump forced to campaign from a bulletproof glass box.


Because our government is so corrupt and inept.
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Yet he is the threat to democracy. All that bulletproof glass is to keep him from hurting everyone else, i guess
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DannyDuberstein said:

Yet he is the threat to democracy. All that bulletproof glass is to keep him from hurting everyone else, i guess


Total and complete BS and the democrats know it but it's their only ridiculous talking point. Trying to cement yet another pathetic lie with the low info voters. The only real threat to democracy is some of the socialist policies being pushed by the democrats.
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A number of agencies can't seem to determine which is most important..."public integrity" or "actual competence".

Some democratic system we've become. US image = "Howdy Doody Time".
Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and myself founded empires; but upon what foundation did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force! But Jesus Christ founded His upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him. - Napoleon Bonaparte
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Shooter's father lawyers up.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13765351/Father-Trump-shooter-Thomas-Matthew-Crooks-hires-criminal-attorney.html
Trump will fix it.
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This is still going on but for posterity's sake, needs to be posted here as well.

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So many questions remain unanswered.....a short current summary.
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Short clip from J13 Forum testimony.
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