Shots fired at Trump [Keep it factual -- Staff]

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This mobile ad data tracking is legit and has been discussed on here in the past. Basically looking at the proximity of mobile ad serves and instances where theres multiple recurrences of someone being in proximity to the target. they used this tech recently to track people that had visited Epstein's sex island and had tracked targets back to their homes and offices.
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FWIW.
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aggiehawg said:



FWIW.


Can't wait to see the purple haired idiots claim he doesn't know what he's talking about
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So when will the comms recordings be released of that day? I am guessing never
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Given Cheatle's answers to Congress today, and the fact that we still don't have much more than very basic intel (we have someone on a roof with a gun, allegedly, and 4 casualties in the stands...that's it), I think there are parts of this op that they are struggling to make connect with the narrative... One thing that seems obvious is the number of shots taken in total... With the audio recordings, I bet they don't have the same number of shots on audio that they wanted to claim originally... Hell, we don't even know how many shell casings were found on the roof, if any...

Inter-agency comms issues are probably also problematic for their narrative...the timing of those comms may not match the timeline they want to provide to the public...
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At a minimum any recorded 911 calls received by the county and body cam footage from local cops should've been released already. There's no legitimate reason for surprising that evidence.
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aggiehawg said:

One word: drones.
the thing about drones is that what's to stop someone from using a drone (like in Ukrain) to bomb the crowd? If the whole area is a NO DRONES area, they can enforce that much easier than trying to keep track of the SS/PD one or two and look for someone else's that randomly flies in.
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Cheatle would not say how many casings were on roof from his rifle
Deferred it to fbi
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agracer said:

aggiehawg said:

One word: drones.
the thing about drones is that what's to stop someone from using a drone (like in Ukrain) to bomb the crowd? If the whole are is a NO DRONES area, they can enforce that much easier than trying to keep track of there one or two and look for someone else's that randomly drop s in
Not true. They have ways to detect a drone the moment it is started before even airborne and more precisely where the person is who is controlling it. Not one of their birds? Shoot it the hell down.
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For people mad about the stonewalling that went on at the Cheatle hearing, just a reminder that the Director USSS is appointed at the sole discretion of the President of the United States and works at the pleasure of the President.

Cheatle is an appointed agent within the exclusive authority of the president of Joe Biden which we've seen hide-nor-hair of in several days.

Committee grandstanding for social media has no authority to do anything that affects Cheatle. I'm surprised she showed up at all and took the beating.
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aggiehawg said:

agracer said:

aggiehawg said:

One word: drones.
the thing about drones is that what's to stop someone from using a drone (like in Ukrain) to bomb the crowd? If the whole are is a NO DRONES area, they can enforce that much easier than trying to keep track of there one or two and look for someone else's that randomly drop s in
Not true. They have ways to detect a drone the moment it is started before even airborne and more precisely where the person is who is controlling it. Not one of their birds? Shoot it the hell down.

Can 100% guarantee that tech wasn't in use at this rally. They dang near didn't have sniper coverage and hardly had any SS personnel
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drcrinum said:




This is a legitimate organization. Read the whole thread. They report that someone who lives/works in Washington DC regularly visited Crooks home and work.
can we keep updating as we hear more on this?
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Oh I understand that. Was just stating the USSS using drones would not be the problem that poster was suggesting when used in conjunction with that tech. Would take specialized training of course.
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So much for the story that those windows were inoperable. Plus there was a door that led outside wherein they would see anything on that lower roof where Crooks was located.
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So there is one conspiracy debunked. The snipers (if they were there) were not behind a window that could not be opened.
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drcrinum said:


Just when you think the facts of this case couldn't possibly get any worse.
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That video is up against the window and looking that direction. The team in that building was said to be a sniper team not counter sniper.

Snipers don't set up in windows, they set up back in a room and shoot out. Their goal was to take out threats in the crowd.

Also that is the crew who was said to have left their post for 6 min correct?
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txags92 said:

So there is one conspiracy debunked. The snipers (if they were there) were not behind a window that could not be opened.
Even if the windows couldn't open, pretty sure they could still shoot through the window
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txags92 said:

So there is one conspiracy debunked. The snipers (if they were there) were not behind a window that could not be opened.
so no impenetrable windows? the "facts" keep falling like dominos.
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txags92 said:

So there is one conspiracy debunked. The snipers (if they were there) were not behind a window that could not be opened.


I think that the misinformation had been debunked.
Didn't it come up in the hearings that the guy station there left just after Trump started talking and returned a minute after the shooting?

Is he the guy that shot and missed (the mysterious third shot), probable after the shooter was already neutralized?
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Artorias said:

txags92 said:

So there is one conspiracy debunked. The snipers (if they were there) were not behind a window that could not be opened.
Even if the windows couldn't open, pretty sure they could still shoot through the window
Or go out the roof door and run across that porte-cochre to where the shooter was.
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Cheatle would not say how many casings were on roof from his rifle

Deferred it to fbi
Been asking for this since the shooting. It is the information that drives the investigation because we can all hear the video. We can hear the number of shots. We already know SS took one shot. Does the math add up?
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

That video is up against the window and looking that direction. The team in that building was said to be a sniper team not counter sniper.

Snipers don't set up in windows, they set up back in a room and shoot out. Their goal was to take out threats in the crowd.

Also that is the crew who was said to have left their post for 6 min correct?


So does their radio magically stop working in the back of the room?
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What a total cluster.
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Artorias said:

txags92 said:

So there is one conspiracy debunked. The snipers (if they were there) were not behind a window that could not be opened.
Even if the windows couldn't open, pretty sure they could still shoot through the window
For sure. But there has been a steady drumbeat of "how could there be snipers in there when the windows don't open?!" Moot point now, the windows can be opened. Which begs the question of why were LEO guys having to climb up and check there roof when there was supposedly a team there that could just look out the window?

Here is where I am on the whole "conspiracy". It doesn't take a huge contingent of deep state folks to make this whole thing go down. All it takes is a bit of calculated indifference/incompetence. If you know you have a small team that is inexperienced, you know you have a threat on-site, you know you are the only team with a view of where the threat was seen looking around, and you conveniently leave your post for the first 5 mins of the speech, you leave a window open for the threat to do their thing.

It doesn't take hundreds of people being involved. Just one or more who might not like Trump and who leave the window open in a way that can be explained away as simple incompetence.
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

That video is up against the window and looking that direction. The team in that building was said to be a sniper team not counter sniper.

Snipers don't set up in windows, they set up back in a room and shoot out. Their goal was to take out threats in the crowd.

Also that is the crew who was said to have left their post for 6 min correct?


What are you saying exactly?

They sat in a room and were told someone was on the roof below them with a gun, and either didn't look, or weren't allowed to look or act?

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drcrinum said:




Relevant from this vantage point…

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ballchain said:

drcrinum said:




Relevant from this vantage point…



That makes sense. Earlier speculation was, it was from a drone. But Cheatle said no drones, right?
Trump will fix it.
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techno-ag said:

ballchain said:

drcrinum said:




Relevant from this vantage point…



That makes sense. Earlier speculation was, it was from a drone. But Cheatle said no drones, right?


If you can see the whole thread on that X Post, it reveals where the perp was at exactly when that pic was as taken.
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I thought that picture was a fake from the guy on Twitter who looked vaguely like him? Because it came out almost immediately
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People been convicted of murder on far less evidence than we've seen here so far.
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Not Coach Jimbo said:

Lonestar_Ag09 said:

That video is up against the window and looking that direction. The team in that building was said to be a sniper team not counter sniper.

Snipers don't set up in windows, they set up back in a room and shoot out. Their goal was to take out threats in the crowd.

Also that is the crew who was said to have left their post for 6 min correct?


What are you saying exactly?

They sat in a room and were told someone was on the roof below them with a gun, and either didn't look, or weren't allowed to look or act?


where has it been stated they were told there was a threat on the roof? In that roof back in the room you aren't seeing people under the trees pointing, you dang sure aren't hearing them and there has been zero proof of what was said over radio Comm's, on what channel, or to who.
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techno-ag said:

ballchain said:

drcrinum said:




Relevant from this vantage point…



That makes sense. Earlier speculation was, it was from a drone. But Cheatle said no drones, right?
photo looks like it was either taken through a window, or its is a photo of a photo on a screen.
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aggiehawg said:

agracer said:

aggiehawg said:

One word: drones.
the thing about drones is that what's to stop someone from using a drone (like in Ukrain) to bomb the crowd? If the whole are is a NO DRONES area, they can enforce that much easier than trying to keep track of there one or two and look for someone else's that randomly drop s in
Not true. They have ways to detect a drone the moment it is started before even airborne and more precisely where the person is who is controlling it. Not one of their birds? Shoot it the hell down.


How would they shoot it down? They would need someone at the very least to have a high powered shotgun with a long barrel like a goose gun to easily stop a drone before it gets near a crowd. Not typically the types of shotguns that Law Enforcement carries for defense...Otherwise, they are asking snipers to take a shot at a fast moving target with a sniper rifle. Not impossible, but not an easy task either.
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