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So is this really him?

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Safest to assume no until more comes out.

There is no source or statement of where the picture was found... way too suspicious till there is more info

nortex97 said:

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Not sure how anyone could plan to sit in a prone position a hundred yards from the former president in broad daylight and plan to get off more than 50 rounds using a semi-auto rifle. Let alone after they were alerted to your presence 30 minutes, or 2 hours prior or whatever one chooses to believe.

Oswald didn't have anywhere near that many rounds with him (bolt action…), from much further away, nor did any presidential assassin I am aware of in our history.

I think it's really as simple as the local cops screwed it up, rushing his shot, responding to the complaints/crowd. Once the stage team responded, it was over.

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Oswald was much closer than this dumbass.

Oswald's shot was much more challenging, vs. a moving target (and waving etc) using a craptastic surplus italian bolt action rifle he wasn't overly familiar with (obviously without a scope, though Oswald was a better marksman by all accounts). Just my two cents, sorry, not trying to get in trouble with a…much longer topic.

Crooks' shot, unrushed, if at center mass, is one any 10-12 year old in Texas who has gone deer hunting makes.

Agree, the mass shooting angle is bunk. Seems it would have been much easier for him just to start spraying bullets into the crowd at will rather than do all the advance scouting work he did. Nope, he was there to kill DJT and came within a ****'s hair of doing just that.

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Crooks' shot, unrushed, if at center mass, is one any 10-12 year old in Texas who has gone deer hunting makes.

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Ya'll for all the computer models, videos, "Expert" opinions, etc... the shooter delivered a death shot! Divine Intervention. God stepped in and shifted DJT's head to avoid that shot. To avoid certain death. We watched it.

Find faith in God if you have not. Lift up His name. I wager to say that DJT speaks more of his faith in God after this event.

So… You're calling Loomer a typical Dem ??

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Rapier108 said:

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drcrinum said:

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EXCLUSIVE:

🚨🚨🚨 NEW REPORT🚨🚨🚨

ALARMING NEW DETAILS AROUND THE BUILDING USED BY THE SHOOTER TO ALMOST ASSASSINATE PRESIDENT TRUMP!

WHY IS THE COMPANY THAT OWNS THE BUILDING NOT TALKING? AND WHY HAVE THEY NOT RELEASED A STATEMENT?

AGR International, the building Thomas… pic.twitter.com/ZIZY1tIblD

— Laura Loomer (@LauraLoomer) July 18, 2024

The building used by the would-be assassin.....the ownership and operations history of this building reads like a Democrat Party front organization. So many coincidences.

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Anyone using Laura Loomer as a source should never be taken seriously.

That woman lies daily and simply makes up ***** She will slander anyone without proof such as this company and its employees.

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What is she a source of? Bio's taken from a company's webpage? Yea, she compiled them, but they are not from her.
The question she asks?

Do you know what a "source" is?

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It is the claims she is making, that they're somehow part of the grand, anti-Trump conspiracy.

No real surprise you'd defend that lunatic woman.

nortex97 said:

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Oswald's shot was much more challenging, vs. a moving target (and waving etc) using a craptastic surplus italian bolt action rifle he wasn't overly familiar with (obviously without a scope, though Oswald was a better marksman by all accounts). Just my two cents, sorry, not trying to get in trouble with a…much longer topic.

Crooks' shot, unrushed, if at center mass, is one any 10-12 year old in Texas who has gone deer hunting makes.

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That rifle was considered accurate, Oswald had a 4x scope, and the distance was significantly less. Don't know why you think he was unfamiliar with the rifle, he had it over 6mo at the time he shot Kennedy. Plus, Oswald was trained in the Marines and had earned the Sharpshooter designation. There is the slowly moving car that made it somewhat more difficult, but tests showed the scope led it perfectly for that very slow speed.

Both Oswald and Crooks shots were pretty easy. Crooks had the advantage of a modern gun and a less mobile target, but Oswald had Marine training, much shorter distances, a 4x scope, and less pressure since no one knew he was there or suspicious.

Rapier108 said:

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Science Denier said:

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Rapier108 said:

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drcrinum said:

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EXCLUSIVE:

🚨🚨🚨 NEW REPORT🚨🚨🚨

ALARMING NEW DETAILS AROUND THE BUILDING USED BY THE SHOOTER TO ALMOST ASSASSINATE PRESIDENT TRUMP!

WHY IS THE COMPANY THAT OWNS THE BUILDING NOT TALKING? AND WHY HAVE THEY NOT RELEASED A STATEMENT?

AGR International, the building Thomas… pic.twitter.com/ZIZY1tIblD

— Laura Loomer (@LauraLoomer) July 18, 2024

The building used by the would-be assassin.....the ownership and operations history of this building reads like a Democrat Party front organization. So many coincidences.

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Anyone using Laura Loomer as a source should never be taken seriously.

That woman lies daily and simply makes up ***** She will slander anyone without proof such as this company and its employees.

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What is she a source of? Bio's taken from a company's webpage? Yea, she compiled them, but they are not from her.
The question she asks?

Do you know what a "source" is?

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It is the claims she is making, that they're somehow part of the grand, anti-Trump conspiracy.

No real surprise you'd defend that lunatic woman.

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Not defending anyone. Calling out your ridiculous post. She asks why no comment from them.

Thats not a source of anything.

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Rapier108 said:

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It is the claims she is making, that they're somehow part of the grand, anti-Trump conspiracy.

No real surprise you'd defend that lunatic woman.

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Not defending anyone. Calling out your ridiculous post. She asks why no comment from them.

Thats not a source of anything.

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He's taking issue with:

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ALARMING NEW DETAILS AROUND THE BUILDING USED BY THE SHOOT TO ALMOST ASSASSINATE PRESIDENT TRUMP!

WHY IS THE COMPANY THAT OWNS THE BUILDING NOT TALKING? AND WHY HAVE THEY NOT RELEASED A STATEMENT?

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Those are the rantings of a nutjob.

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Oswald's shot was much more challenging

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Crooks entire mission though, should have been MUCH more challenging than Oswald's...harder to be able to even get to the point of getting a shot off...but it was MUCH easier. NO ONE would assume it would be even remotely possible to make it half as far as he did...and he was able to do it., with stunning ease. Just crazy to think about.

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So here’s the situation … pic.twitter.com/uxpzEsna5v

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 17, 2024

haven't seen this photo angle before, but it looks like there is a second ladder to the right on top of a small rubber-maid type shed/cabinet. We were discussing yesterday about ways he might have been able to get up without a ladder, and the cabinet and pallets on the loading dock were discussed as a possibility. Looks like he may have put a small ladder on the shed/cabinet.



it was speculated earlier in the week that he had a home depot telescoping ladder, and that is kinda what it looks like here.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/XTEND-CLIMB-15-5-ft-Aluminum-Telescoping-Extension-Ladder-19-5-Reach-Height-250-lbs-Load-Capacity-ANSI-Type-I-Duty-Rating-785P/309897050

EDIT: also, looks like the little shed is open, so maybe the ladder was in the shed? or maybe he stashed gear in that shed prior?

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A reasonably fit person probably wouldn't even need a ladder there. Moar fail.

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Science Denier said:

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It is the claims she is making, that they're somehow part of the grand, anti-Trump conspiracy.

No real surprise you'd defend that lunatic woman.

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Not defending anyone. Calling out your ridiculous post. She asks why no comment from them.

Thats not a source of anything.

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He's taking issue with:

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ALARMING NEW DETAILS AROUND THE BUILDING USED BY THE SHOOT TO ALMOST ASSASSINATE PRESIDENT TRUMP!

WHY IS THE COMPANY THAT OWNS THE BUILDING NOT TALKING? AND WHY HAVE THEY NOT RELEASED A STATEMENT?

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Those are the rantings of a nutjob.

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So, you agree he doesn't know what a source is. You agree the info is accurate. Just her questions are from a lunatic.

I appreciated Bongino take in reference to someone is his chat. He is reporting facts as he is being told and not speculating or guessing or making up stuff for clicks.

This thread has thankfully gotten more to that but there for a bit was just a bulletin board for any wild speculation and was worthless.

It's a meme.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.knowyourmeme.com/editorials/guides/whats-up-with-memes-about-saddam-husseins-hiding-place-red-silhouette-diagrams-explained

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Bongino's rumble show this am was good once again.

Couple of take aways from Bongino's sources:

shooter's phone pinged a week prior at the grounds

there was no ladder used to get on the roof

There is a working THEORY that the shooter found his way on the roof because he was trying to hide from the cops and became an ad lib location of opportunity. Also he was there to for a mass shooting vs. targeting DJT

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Why would he need a range finder for a mass shooting? I'm calling BS on the mass shooting theory. He was there for 1 purpose and one purpose only. To assassinate DJT.

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Why would he be going all over the place with a range finder for a 140 yard shot? Its not like he was going to plop down in the open in plain site and start shooting. Can that be used just to scout stuff out at a distance in lieu of binoculars?

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The System said:

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Bongino's rumble show this am was good once again.

Couple of take aways from Bongino's sources:

shooter's phone pinged a week prior at the grounds

there was no ladder used to get on the roof

There is a working THEORY that the shooter found his way on the roof because he was trying to hide from the cops and became an ad lib location of opportunity. Also he was there to for a mass shooting vs. targeting DJT

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Why would he need a range finder for a mass shooting? I'm calling BS on the mass shooting theory. He was there for 1 purpose and one purpose only. To assassinate DJT.

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Why would he be going all over the place with a range finder for a 140 yard shot? Its not like he was going to plop down in the open in plain site and start shooting. Can that be used just to scout stuff out at a distance in lieu of binoculars?

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Yeah, for sure could be used like that. You can get a 7x magnification rangefinder under $100 on Amazon

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nortex97 said:

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Oswald's shot was much more challenging, vs. a moving target (and waving etc) using a craptastic surplus italian bolt action rifle he wasn't overly familiar with (obviously without a scope, though Oswald was a better marksman by all accounts). Just my two cents, sorry, not trying to get in trouble with a…much longer topic.

Crooks' shot, unrushed, if at center mass, is one any 10-12 year old in Texas who has gone deer hunting makes.

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That rifle was considered accurate, Oswald had a 4x scope, and the distance was significantly less. Don't know why you think he was unfamiliar with the rifle, he had it over 6mo at the time he shot Kennedy. Plus, Oswald was trained in the Marines and had earned the Sharpshooter designation. There is the slowly moving car that made it somewhat more difficult, but tests showed the scope led it perfectly for that very slow speed.

Both Oswald and Crooks shots were pretty easy.

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LOL, I am not the expert here but yes you are right it did have a scope. A crappy one. I disagree that it was easy.





Just offered for amusement. Those 3 shots in 8.3 seconds as such would have been…more challenging, imho. It's interesting that Oswald though (per second video) was arrested 80 minutes later for possession of the revolver. As with Crooks, he personally had a plan apparently post-shooting.

The FBI's actions (thru 1968?) relative to the Carcano Oswald used might be probative of their actions upcoming relative to Crooks' AR. Funny that involved then the national archives administration…which has been in public conflict with Trump over classified documents the past few years.

BREAKING: Trump reportedly met with USSS Director Kimberly Cheatle at the RNC convention.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) July 18, 2024

nortex97 said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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nortex97 said:

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Oswald's shot was much more challenging, vs. a moving target (and waving etc) using a craptastic surplus italian bolt action rifle he wasn't overly familiar with (obviously without a scope, though Oswald was a better marksman by all accounts). Just my two cents, sorry, not trying to get in trouble with a…much longer topic.

Crooks' shot, unrushed, if at center mass, is one any 10-12 year old in Texas who has gone deer hunting makes.

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That rifle was considered accurate, Oswald had a 4x scope, and the distance was significantly less. Don't know why you think he was unfamiliar with the rifle, he had it over 6mo at the time he shot Kennedy. Plus, Oswald was trained in the Marines and had earned the Sharpshooter designation. There is the slowly moving car that made it somewhat more difficult, but tests showed the scope led it perfectly for that very slow speed.

Both Oswald and Crooks shots were pretty easy.

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LOL, I am not the expert here but yes you are right it did have a scope. A crappy one. I disagree that it was easy.





Just offered for amusement. Those 3 shots in 8.3 seconds as such would have been…more challenging, imho. It's interesting that Oswald though (per second video) was arrested 80 minutes later for possession of the revolver. As with Crooks, he personally had a plan apparently post-shooting.

The FBI's actions (thru 1968?) relative to the Carcano Oswald used might be probative of their actions upcoming relative to Crooks' AR. Funny that involved then the national archives administration…which has been in public conflict with Trump over classified documents the past few years.

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The time Oswald had was really closer to 11 seconds and the clock starts when he chooses to take the first shot. That's plenty of time.





If you want to get into a bigger Oswald discussion, I'm all for it, but better off somewhere else.

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This is the most incriminating evidence demonstrating this weekend’s attempted assassination was a known event amongst powerful players. Like airlines were shorted before 9/11 (presumably by people connected to the terrorists), “somebody” placed a massive 8 million share bet that… https://t.co/Th4efjhe2d

— Joshua Hartley (@JHartley2) July 16, 2024

Surely no-one in government would try to profit off of Trump's assassination...I jest.

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You know you should immediately question the validity of a claim when the poster is using a debunked 911 conspiracy talking point.

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Director Cheatle welcomes the opportunity to testify before the committee.

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Ok then, it's settled. She accepted the subpoena and will testify on July 22.

Take solace in the fact that all of our questions will be answered in due course.

We've got the upmost confidence in this lady to reign all this back in and restore the public's faith in the democratic process.

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One thing you'll notice about this Cheatle is that she tried to delay her congressional testimony saying in a letter that the July 22 date clashed with 'her travel and operational commitments."

What on earth could be more important than updating the American public as to why the former president and leading presidential candidate was shot on live tv?

What is more important than that?

Get all the big stuff out of the way at the hearing first, but somebody should ask that question.

What was on your schedule that would prevent you from testifying before the people's elected representatives?

What was it?

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She and Jill were going to the boardwalk in Rehoboth Beach.

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She was planning to go paddle boarding with Obama.

at some point this thread and the ****official conspiracy thread**** will collide, and the world's most conspicuous assassin in the worlds most conspicuous spot from which to shoot, will be considered mainly a distraction.

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What is the "Saddam Hussein" in the bottom right of the picture posted by Elon?

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i think that part was a joke, but i was talking about the second ladder. I had not seen the second ladder in any of the photos posted on here.

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at some point this thread and the ****official conspiracy thread**** will collide, and the world's most conspicuous assassin in the worlds most conspicuous spot from which to shoot, will be considered mainly a distraction.

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Well, the most conspicuous spot was the water tower, and now there are people saying one of the real gunmen was there.

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drcrinum said:

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This is the most incriminating evidence demonstrating this weekend’s attempted assassination was a known event amongst powerful players. Like airlines were shorted before 9/11 (presumably by people connected to the terrorists), “somebody” placed a massive 8 million share bet that… https://t.co/Th4efjhe2d

— Joshua Hartley (@JHartley2) July 16, 2024

Surely no-one in government would try to profit off of Trump's assassination...I jest.

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You know you should immediately question the validity of a claim when the poster is using a debunked 911 conspiracy talking point.

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What is debunked about 9/11 ? I missed that.

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Aren't the cops and secret service supposed to be watching for suspicious people like this.

How did they not assign someone to shadow this guy.

It's inconceivable.

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What's more amazing is nothing has been mentioned about them even confronting him or inquiring about the range finder. That's a level of fail beyond incompetence.

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I don't know. It was not illegal or prohibited to bring in. It only looks bad after the fact.

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I can definitely see a republican in rural Pennsylvania having a rangefinder but not binoculars so he could see better.

Innocuous reason is feasible

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This isn't a good enough excuse for SS to ignore a range finder, IMO. There are just some things that shouldn't be brought to an event with a world important VIP.

AR-15's, pipe bombs, ladders, truckloads of fertilizer and diesel, drones, Halloween masks of former presidents, lazer pointers, ghillie suits, fake LEO ID's, anemometers (wind meters), and range finders, in my opinion, all fit within that list.

I know cosplaying as Reagan might be fun at a Trump rally, but, really, you need to leave that mask at home.

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nortex97 said:

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Oswald's shot was much more challenging

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Crooks entire mission though, should have been MUCH more challenging than Oswald's...harder to be able to even get to the point of getting a shot off...but it was MUCH easier. NO ONE would assume it would be even remotely possible to make it half as far as he did...and he was able to do it., with stunning ease. Just crazy to think about.

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For this to take place, you had to have errors all the way up and down the board:

1) Insufficient SS agents
2) Undertrained DEI agents
3) terrible planning to have that rooftop as a blind spot
4) Ignoring many, MANY different warning signs that any sane person would at least get Trump off of the stage for. The kid pre-cased the area, brought a range finder, and climbed a roof 130 yards from the stage WITH A RIFLE, and the crowd was yelling about him.

Someone should have interrupted the event at some point until this threat was addressed. Could have been as easy as asking Trump to delay his appearance for 15 minutes while someone ran this guy down. The fact that this didn't happen shows that you have the D (or, is it, DEI?) squad protecting the frontrunner for POTUS.

SIAP


https://metro.co.uk/2024/07/17/this-3d-model-shows-just-close-trump-assassinated-21246002/

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techno-ag said:

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Aren't the cops and secret service supposed to be watching for suspicious people like this.

How did they not assign someone to shadow this guy.

It's inconceivable.

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What's more amazing is nothing has been mentioned about them even confronting him or inquiring about the range finder. That's a level of fail beyond incompetence.

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I don't know. It was not illegal or prohibited to bring in. It only looks bad after the fact.

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I can definitely see a republican in rural Pennsylvania having a rangefinder but not binoculars so he could see better.

Innocuous reason is feasible

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This isn't a good enough excuse for SS to ignore a range finder, IMO. There are just some things that shouldn't be brought to an event with a world important VIP.

AR-15's, pipe bombs, ladders, truckloads of fertilizer and diesel, drones, Halloween masks of former presidents, lazer pointers, ghillie suits, fake LEO ID's, anemometers (wind meters), and range finders, in my opinion, all fit within that list.

I know cosplaying as Reagan might be fun at a Trump rally, but, really, you need to leave that mask at home.

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Well… before 9-11 you could add taking box cutters onto a plane to that list. But it was not prohibited back then and they did it.

Removing since it seems to be a edited video.