Shots fired at Trump [Keep it factual -- Staff]

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rolo said:


WOW. I cant believe how close his shirt blends in with that building and almost white shorts. Just a coincidence or pre-planned.

Range finder in pocket?

Anybody know specifically where bike or car was found at the site?
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The backpack is too small to hide an AR even if broke down between upper and lower. Not sure even if that model AR allows complete separation in upper/lower without some gunsmithing at the front pin.

The roll on the front is interesting and looks like a shooters mat. Would like to see pic of it full frontal that may be wide enough to hide rifle with stock folded or off.
No. No widely available commercial standard AR-15 pattern rifle requires gunsmithing to separate the upper and lower, including the model purchased by his dad 11 years ago from DPMS.

An occasional tap if the pin is tight, sure, but not a trip to the gunsmith. DPMS has sold essentially mil-spec models through their acquisition by PSA.
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LMAO

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4stringAg said:

Sounds like the shooter planned some mayhem with the explosives or a retreat of some sort with him having a bullet proof vest in his car along with explosives and a bunch of extra rounds.


Has anything come out to confirm where the car he had on site was parked? If it was in the lot behind the building I wonder if he figured that if he hit Trump on the first shot (which he almost did) he'd be able to retreat in the immediate chaos before getting shot. Of course once he missed and just started firing randomly and the team zeroed on him it was always going to end with him getting his head blown off, just wondering if he had some kind of plan to run initially.
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Honest question to which no one here knows the answer: how many people woke up Saturday and knew what was about to go down?
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I'm thinking he drove to the site in a lift truck, like with a 20 ft boom lift he could operate from the bucket. and he had his long gun in a guitar case. looked totally normal.
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Has anything come out to confirm where the car he had on site was parked? If it was in the lot behind the building I wonder if he figured that if he hit Trump on the first shot (which he almost did) he'd be able to retreat in the immediate chaos before getting shot. Of course once he missed and just started firing randomly and the team zeroed on him it was always going to end with him getting his head blown off, just wondering if he had some kind of plan to run initially.
It was a neighborhood street back behind the building, on the opposite side of where the building parking lot was located.
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Rapier108 said:

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Eargate


Just as asinine as the right believing all the crap being put out by random social media accounts.

People will dig their heels in on anything if it fits their preconceived beliefs.

QAnon broke the brains of so many on the right that is like dealing with flat earthers. The left has been broken since 2000.
Which right leaning commentator has said anything approaching this level of stupidity?
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yell_on_6th st said:

Honest question to which no one here knows the answer: how many people woke up Saturday and knew what was about to go down?


There was a buzz something was about to pop off.

Talked to multiple people before and since that felt that way.
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Local police alerted the Secret Service before former president Donald Trump's rally Saturday that they lacked the resources to station a patrol car outside a key building where a gunman later positioned himself and shot at Trump, according to local and federal law enforcement.

Richard Goldinger, the district attorney in Butler County, Pa., where the Trump rally took place, said the Secret Service "was informed that the local police department did not have manpower to assist with securing that building."

Goldinger's account was confirmed by a Secret Service official briefed on the incident, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to be candid about a sensitive, ongoing investigation.

The Secret Service official confirmed that positioning an officer outside the building was considered one of the ways to protect against the risk that the agency prepares for at all public events that a shooter on high ground has a clear line of sight on the president or other senior officials being protected.

https://archive.fo/YmZpB#selection-735.0-769.313
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ttha_aggie_09 said:

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Not sure if this has been posted yet. WOW.



wow, i did not know that three shots missed him
No way 3-shots that quick all on the same flight path. Not even 2.
I don't know about that...

130-140 yards
Prone position
Semi-auto

Those are all probably 2-4 MOA shots. That is very achievable by most competent marksmen, even with an red dot + magnifier, which I believe is what was being reported as the optic

I mean on the exact same flight path (it shows the bullets as if they are all on a string).

Getting off 3-shoots in a few seconds at 2-4 MOA, I agree is possible. Esp. if he practiced. It's been reported he went to the range with his father often so maybe he did quick fire drills prone at targets at 100-yards.
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Was it a two story building?
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yell_on_6th st said:

Honest question to which no one here knows the answer: how many people woke up Saturday and knew what was about to go down?
6 people knew the entire plan. Another 6 were used as pawns but they didnt even know they were being used, maybe less depending on hacking ability.
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Minimal recoil on .223/5.56 plus he's laying prone. Staying on target isn't that hard for most people
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Still want to know the temp of thet tin roof mid-day in July.

Shooting accurate prone is one thing but if your exposed knees and elbows being burned by hot tin is another.
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Bongino better be on alert. I know he is, but he is in real danger as a gateway for honest USSS members to get info out on this mess.
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captkirk said:


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Local police alerted the Secret Service before former president Donald Trump's rally Saturday that they lacked the resources to station a patrol car outside a key building where a gunman later positioned himself and shot at Trump, according to local and federal law enforcement.

Richard Goldinger, the district attorney in Butler County, Pa., where the Trump rally took place, said the Secret Service "was informed that the local police department did not have manpower to assist with securing that building."

Goldinger's account was confirmed by a Secret Service official briefed on the incident, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to be candid about a sensitive, ongoing investigation.

The Secret Service official confirmed that positioning an officer outside the building was considered one of the ways to protect against the risk that the agency prepares for at all public events that a shooter on high ground has a clear line of sight on the president or other senior officials being protected.

https://archive.fo/YmZpB#selection-735.0-769.313
Yet they had 5-6 cops standing around it another lie.

There is NO 2nd story window not a two story on the building the shooter is on but the one behind it is.
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yell_on_6th st said:

Honest question to which no one here knows the answer: how many people woke up Saturday and knew what was about to go down?
In my mind, it has to be more than 1.
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Where are you getting the shooter position from? This was just on Fox News.
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Especially if the allegations of massive shorts are true.
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Now they're reporting it was just traffic detail that the locals were responsible for.. they left their traffic detail to go check on the commotion around the building
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MagnumLoad said:

nortex97 said:



Dan is not one to go with soft/unverified claims.

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Was it a two story building?


Next to it


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JFABNRGR said:

captkirk said:


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Local police alerted the Secret Service before former president Donald Trump's rally Saturday that they lacked the resources to station a patrol car outside a key building where a gunman later positioned himself and shot at Trump, according to local and federal law enforcement.

Richard Goldinger, the district attorney in Butler County, Pa., where the Trump rally took place, said the Secret Service "was informed that the local police department did not have manpower to assist with securing that building."

Goldinger's account was confirmed by a Secret Service official briefed on the incident, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to be candid about a sensitive, ongoing investigation.

The Secret Service official confirmed that positioning an officer outside the building was considered one of the ways to protect against the risk that the agency prepares for at all public events that a shooter on high ground has a clear line of sight on the president or other senior officials being protected.

https://archive.fo/YmZpB#selection-735.0-769.313
Yet they had 5-6 cops standing around it another lie.

There is NO 2nd story window not a two story.
There is a two-story building, with windows facing the toward the podium, directly behind the building the shooter was on. If the Fox graphic is correct in showing the placement of the shooter, there is a window for a second shooter directly above and in line with the shooter's line of fire. Hmmmm...

EDIT: based on the pic directly above, the window I am referencing is not clearly shown, but it is in the top right corner of the two story building.
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If they were at one of those second story windows, they would have seen him or at least been able to see him when the commotion started
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Foreverconservative said:

MagnumLoad said:

nortex97 said:



Dan is not one to go with soft/unverified claims.

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Was it a two story building?


Next to it





If the snipers were in that two story building, they could take out the shooter with a blow gun.

Things just don't add up.

Edit to add, a sniper team posted on top of that building would make a lot more sense.
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Just an Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

captkirk said:


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Local police alerted the Secret Service before former president Donald Trump's rally Saturday that they lacked the resources to station a patrol car outside a key building where a gunman later positioned himself and shot at Trump, according to local and federal law enforcement.

Richard Goldinger, the district attorney in Butler County, Pa., where the Trump rally took place, said the Secret Service "was informed that the local police department did not have manpower to assist with securing that building."

Goldinger's account was confirmed by a Secret Service official briefed on the incident, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to be candid about a sensitive, ongoing investigation.

The Secret Service official confirmed that positioning an officer outside the building was considered one of the ways to protect against the risk that the agency prepares for at all public events that a shooter on high ground has a clear line of sight on the president or other senior officials being protected.

https://archive.fo/YmZpB#selection-735.0-769.313
Yet they had 5-6 cops standing around it another lie.

There is NO 2nd story window not a two story.
There is a two-story building, with windows facing the toward the podium, directly behind the building the shooter was on. If the Fox graphic is correct in showing the placement of the shooter, there is a window for a second shooter directly above and in line with the shooter's line of fire. Hmmmm...


I see it now wow. Both a view of the stage, the shooter, and a bunch of people below screaming for minutes about the guy on the roof. This gets worse by the day.
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rolo said:

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So pretty much a typical radlib
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so the pic from above would have been taken with him by that curb below the 2nd story windows
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Schneider Electric said:

Bongino better be on alert. I know he is, but he is in real danger as a gateway for honest USSS members to get info out on this mess.


He gets death threats all the time. His personal car is bullet proof as he told a story about getting pulled over in it a couple of months ago and having to explain it to the cop
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BuddysBud said:

Foreverconservative said:

MagnumLoad said:

nortex97 said:



Dan is not one to go with soft/unverified claims.

Caution:language but yes, all of this:



Was it a two story building?


Next to it





If the snipers were in that two story building, they could take out the shooter with a blow gun.

Things just don't add up.

Edit to add, a sniper team posted on top of that building would make a lot more sense.
So are there reports that there was SS personnel in the two story building? The more that comes out the more it seems intentional. The shorting of the stock is very 9/11. Totally normal to short a stock massively the week before a horrific event.
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More unverified reports, claims, and Twitter posts, but because they fit the desired narrative of a massive plot against Trump, they must be accepted to be true.
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SeanAg05 said:

If they were at one of those second story windows, they would have seen him or at least been able to see him when the commotion started
Also, nobody hears a dude walking around on the metal roof directly above them and takes inititave to figure out who's on the roof?

If we all down here, who is on the gd roof?

And nobody asked that. ok.
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