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Money has instead been diverted to DEI (diversity, equity and inclusion). Investment in new technology, including state-of-the-art drones, was also sacrificed at the altar of DEI.
Serious question - how is money "diverted to DEI" actually spent? Recruiting? Higher salaries for DEI hires? Not doubting this at all, just can't imagine how the money is being spent.
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I am not sure how it works in something like SS but in areas I'm familiar with it's just a means of paying leftist aligned consultants money. It's a grift.
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Fenrir said:

I am not sure how it works in something like SS but in areas I'm familiar with it's just a means of paying leftist aligned consultants money. It's a grift.
Of course it is. Thanks for the quick reply
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agent-maroon said:

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Money has instead been diverted to DEI (diversity, equity and inclusion). Investment in new technology, including state-of-the-art drones, was also sacrificed at the altar of DEI.
Serious question - how is money "diverted to DEI" actually spent? Recruiting? Higher salaries for DEI hires? Not doubting this at all, just can't imagine how the money is being spent.
DEI is a distraction. Incompetence is the story. If they can keep Republicans talking DEI they deflect from incompetence. Even if a focus on DEI caused the incompetence as long as people focus on the DEI aspect they can be dismissed bigots and misogynists and the incompetence can be ignored. Don't fall for the trap. Focus on the failure. Once that is acknowledged the rest takes care of itself
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I think it would be very interesting to see an audit of SS expenses in light of that claim
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anyone who thinks DEI is going to easily go away, doesn't understand the grift machine that it is.
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agent-maroon said:

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Money has instead been diverted to DEI (diversity, equity and inclusion). Investment in new technology, including state-of-the-art drones, was also sacrificed at the altar of DEI.
Serious question - how is money "diverted to DEI" actually spent? Recruiting? Higher salaries for DEI hires? Not doubting this at all, just can't imagine how the money is being spent.


Recruiting events and activities. Full time jobs for people to coordinate "racial sensitivity" and "LGBT awareness" training. Also, paying content providers and speakers to facilitate DEI training. These people make a ton of money going around speaking at big corporations. Execs wash away their white guilt by flushing shareholder money down the toilet, and score PC points by virtue signaling to their Blackrock appointed BOD.
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BlueTaze said:

agent-maroon said:

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Money has instead been diverted to DEI (diversity, equity and inclusion). Investment in new technology, including state-of-the-art drones, was also sacrificed at the altar of DEI.
Serious question - how is money "diverted to DEI" actually spent? Recruiting? Higher salaries for DEI hires? Not doubting this at all, just can't imagine how the money is being spent.


Recruiting events and activities. Full time jobs for people to coordinate "racial sensitivity" and "LGBT awareness" training. Also, paying content providers and speakers to facilitate DEI training. These people make a ton of money going around speaking at big corporations. Execs wash away their white guilt by flushing shareholder money down the toilet, and score PC points by virtue signaling to their Blackrock appointed BOD.


That is a good summation of what I have seen.
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option short side said:

HarryJ33tamu said:

Foreverconservative said:




Jesus Christ. This looks like a scene out of Reno 911……


Hahaha my thoughts exactly
OMG.. you got to be ****ting me.. that does look like Reno 911 .. or newbe training class

Also the sloped roof … looks fairly dangerous…LMAO
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HarryJ33tamu said:

Foreverconservative said:




Jesus Christ. This looks like a scene out of Reno 911……


My thoughts exactly
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Fenrir said:

I am not sure how it works in something like SS but in areas I'm familiar with it's just a means of paying leftist aligned consultants money. It's a grift.
And disgustingly generous fees paid to the marxist speakers.
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Confirms some of the stuff from last night...

Specifically that the cops were aware of him 30m prior. Further backs up the range finder story although not specifically mentioned.

Still don't know why that thread was nuked...?
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techno-ag said:

A new Warren Commission has been proposed by lawmakers.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/trump-assassination-attempt-live-updates-motive-still-unclear-secret-s-rcna162070/rcrd46385
Because that worked so well after Kennedy?

Can't they learn any new tricks besides appoint a committee,have a few meeting then release a bunch of bull*****
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Would rather they drag Cheattle and others in front of a Senate hearing and let Cruz wail on her for a while. Agree with previous poster that "Commissions" are just an opportunity to get their story as straight as possible and trot out some bullshlt to hide the failures and outright lies & corruption
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BlueTaze said:

agent-maroon said:

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Money has instead been diverted to DEI (diversity, equity and inclusion). Investment in new technology, including state-of-the-art drones, was also sacrificed at the altar of DEI.
Serious question - how is money "diverted to DEI" actually spent? Recruiting? Higher salaries for DEI hires? Not doubting this at all, just can't imagine how the money is being spent.


Recruiting events and activities. Full time jobs for people to coordinate "racial sensitivity" and "LGBT awareness" training. Also, paying content providers and speakers to facilitate DEI training. These people make a ton of money going around speaking at big corporations. Execs wash away their white guilt by flushing shareholder money down the toilet, and score PC points by virtue signaling to their Blackrock appointed BOD.


Don't forget it's a great way to employ their leftist kids who came out of college with no skills other than a brainwashing in liberal arts / gender studies.
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nortex97 said:

B-1 83 said:

A rangefinder for a 140 yard shot? Where was he seen taking this range reading?
Another easily discoverable reported fact.
So we believe unnamed sources now?
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tk for tu juan said:

Ag with kids said:

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Monkeypoxfighter said:

Ag with kids said:



Ok...I'm confused...

All the pics show the shooter near the edge of the building facing to the right (in the pics) towards Trump.

Why does this pic have the shooter WAY over on the other side of the building? If those pics/videos are correct, wouldn't he have to be over on the far left of that building?
I'm trying to find a better map of how the shooter would have approached that building to climb it. One post said he carried a ladder a mile, through checkpoints and metal detectors. How were those set up in relation to the shooter's entry and getting on the building?


He was on the side closest to the parking lot, you can see the blood on the roof.

How do you take THIS picture if he is on the parking lot side of the roof and facing where Trump was standing?



Are all of them giants? So that they can be seen from the ground ALL the way across the top of the building?

Background compression from the long focal length when the photo was taken.
And the cell phones that had pics of him in the exact same location? They've got that awesome photo technology, too?

Not only that, the person taking the job is 15 ft tall to get that angle?
Watch the video above your post, notice where they are standing over his body. End of the building towards the parking lot. Then go watch videos on camera focal lengths and what happens to the background as you zoom in.
Can you post the video?

Because I'm trying to understand how the geometry works for a person 6 ft tall filming a building that's 15 ft tall and seeing something on the roof that's 120 ft across the roof.
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Rapier108 said:

Foreverconservative said:

What's even more bizarre is that investigators have reportedly found *nothing* through his search history of him learning how to make homemade explosives.
Simply means he didn't search for it on his phone or computer.

Plenty of other ways to find such information if one wants to do it. When I was a kid, it was the Anarchist Cookbook the troublemakers went to.

Also, if you're going to kept posting excerpts of what is clearly articles, you should include a link to the source, so staff doesn't have to remove your posts.


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Boozer92 said:

agent-maroon said:

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Money has instead been diverted to DEI (diversity, equity and inclusion). Investment in new technology, including state-of-the-art drones, was also sacrificed at the altar of DEI.
Serious question - how is money "diverted to DEI" actually spent? Recruiting? Higher salaries for DEI hires? Not doubting this at all, just can't imagine how the money is being spent.
DEI is a distraction. Incompetence is the story. If they can keep Republicans talking DEI they deflect from incompetence. Even if a focus on DEI caused the incompetence as long as people focus on the DEI aspect they can be dismissed bigots and misogynists and the incompetence can be ignored. Don't fall for the trap. Focus on the failure. Once that is acknowledged the rest takes care of itself
DEI isn't a distraction, it is the mechanism by which the selection of competent people for hiring and promotion is supplanted by a hiring and promotion criteria based on gender, race, and sexual preference. You can't get competence to be the criteria for hiring, retention, and promotion when quotas and "goals" are allowed.

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WRT to how funding is expended on DEI, it is partially with the creation of manpower structure for DEI roles in the government agency (the commissars that observe and correct the productive employees) and the majority of it is spent on contractors who are brought in as consultant and trainers to change the corporate culture of the organization i.e. non-stop seminars for indoctrination and awareness days, weeks, and months for various minority classes. You can burn through a TON of funding on DEI and culture training which is returned in kind to the senior political leadership through campaign and PAC donations to the people who write policies on DEI and draft budget requests.
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Go start a DEI. Thread please
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Ag with kids said:

tk for tu juan said:

Ag with kids said:

tk for tu juan said:

Ag with kids said:

tk for tu juan said:

Monkeypoxfighter said:

Ag with kids said:



Ok...I'm confused...

All the pics show the shooter near the edge of the building facing to the right (in the pics) towards Trump.

Why does this pic have the shooter WAY over on the other side of the building? If those pics/videos are correct, wouldn't he have to be over on the far left of that building?
I'm trying to find a better map of how the shooter would have approached that building to climb it. One post said he carried a ladder a mile, through checkpoints and metal detectors. How were those set up in relation to the shooter's entry and getting on the building?


He was on the side closest to the parking lot, you can see the blood on the roof.

How do you take THIS picture if he is on the parking lot side of the roof and facing where Trump was standing?



Are all of them giants? So that they can be seen from the ground ALL the way across the top of the building?

Background compression from the long focal length when the photo was taken.
And the cell phones that had pics of him in the exact same location? They've got that awesome photo technology, too?

Not only that, the person taking the job is 15 ft tall to get that angle?
Watch the video above your post, notice where they are standing over his body. End of the building towards the parking lot. Then go watch videos on camera focal lengths and what happens to the background as you zoom in.
Can you post the video?

Because I'm trying to understand how the geometry works for a person 6 ft tall filming a building that's 15 ft tall and seeing something on the roof that's 120 ft across the roof.


Look at the Google Street view screenshots here:
https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3475585/replies/68101377#68101377

The back of the building where the video and photos are taken are several get below the ground level compared to where the spectators were.
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Ulysses90 said:

Boozer92 said:

agent-maroon said:

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Money has instead been diverted to DEI (diversity, equity and inclusion). Investment in new technology, including state-of-the-art drones, was also sacrificed at the altar of DEI.
Serious question - how is money "diverted to DEI" actually spent? Recruiting? Higher salaries for DEI hires? Not doubting this at all, just can't imagine how the money is being spent.
DEI is a distraction. Incompetence is the story. If they can keep Republicans talking DEI they deflect from incompetence. Even if a focus on DEI caused the incompetence as long as people focus on the DEI aspect they can be dismissed bigots and misogynists and the incompetence can be ignored. Don't fall for the trap. Focus on the failure. Once that is acknowledged the rest takes care of itself
DEI isn't a distraction, it is the mechanism by which the selection of competent people for hiring and promotion is supplanted by a hiring and promotion criteria based on gender, race, and sexual preference. You can't get competence to be the criteria for hiring, retention, and promotion when quotas and "goals" are allowed.


so you are sure DEI and not another motive was why they didn't secure that rooftop? I am not

I don't like DEI as it is obvious racism under a sweeter name.

But if they can successfully point to opposing messaging as DEI opponents then they win. They can ignore incompetence or intentional incompetence and just employ personal attacks against distractors. If we want to keep the pressure on the SS focus on the failure not the cause. Don't let them muddy the water
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Heard from an LEO source the Melissa McCarthy SS/DEA whatever agent fired a shot into the ground when she was trying to holster her weapon?

Hadn't seen that anywhere yet...maybe missed it 20 pages ago.
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Kunkle for Congress TX-34 said:

Heard from an LEO source the Melissa McCarthy SS/DEA whatever agent fired a shot into the ground when she was trying to holster her weapon?

Hadn't seen that anywhere yet...maybe missed it 20 pages ago.


I don't know if its her but 100% there is an ND to the right of the stage when facing it. I believe its the last shot, multiple neck jerks in that direction from main bleacher behind Trump when the gun goes off. I cant recall her position exactly but very possibly. Wouldn't be when holstering near evac vehicle but on the draw immediately following volley of shots.
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Haven't seen this posted.
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TexasAggie_02 said:

Ag with kids said:

tk for tu juan said:

Ag with kids said:

tk for tu juan said:

Ag with kids said:

tk for tu juan said:

Monkeypoxfighter said:

Ag with kids said:



Ok...I'm confused...

All the pics show the shooter near the edge of the building facing to the right (in the pics) towards Trump.

Why does this pic have the shooter WAY over on the other side of the building? If those pics/videos are correct, wouldn't he have to be over on the far left of that building?
I'm trying to find a better map of how the shooter would have approached that building to climb it. One post said he carried a ladder a mile, through checkpoints and metal detectors. How were those set up in relation to the shooter's entry and getting on the building?


He was on the side closest to the parking lot, you can see the blood on the roof.

How do you take THIS picture if he is on the parking lot side of the roof and facing where Trump was standing?



Are all of them giants? So that they can be seen from the ground ALL the way across the top of the building?

Background compression from the long focal length when the photo was taken.
And the cell phones that had pics of him in the exact same location? They've got that awesome photo technology, too?

Not only that, the person taking the job is 15 ft tall to get that angle?
Watch the video above your post, notice where they are standing over his body. End of the building towards the parking lot. Then go watch videos on camera focal lengths and what happens to the background as you zoom in.
Can you post the video?

Because I'm trying to understand how the geometry works for a person 6 ft tall filming a building that's 15 ft tall and seeing something on the roof that's 120 ft across the roof.


Look at the Google Street view screenshots here:
https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3475585/replies/68101377#68101377

The back of the building where the video and photos are taken are several get below the ground level compared to where the spectators were.
Ok...this pic may explain it...with a long zoom.



However...there're still pics closer to the building that show him closer to the near edge. They were phone videos, not photog pics.

Again, I'm just trying to figure out the geometry.


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Ag with kids said:

TexasAggie_02 said:

Ag with kids said:

tk for tu juan said:

Ag with kids said:

tk for tu juan said:

Ag with kids said:

tk for tu juan said:

Monkeypoxfighter said:

Ag with kids said:


Ok...I'm confused...

All the pics show the shooter near the edge of the building facing to the right (in the pics) towards Trump.

Why does this pic have the shooter WAY over on the other side of the building? If those pics/videos are correct, wouldn't he have to be over on the far left of that building?
I'm trying to find a better map of how the shooter would have approached that building to climb it. One post said he carried a ladder a mile, through checkpoints and metal detectors. How were those set up in relation to the shooter's entry and getting on the building?

He was on the side closest to the parking lot, you can see the blood on the roof.

How do you take THIS picture if he is on the parking lot side of the roof and facing where Trump was standing?

Are all of them giants? So that they can be seen from the ground ALL the way across the top of the building?

Background compression from the long focal length when the photo was taken.
And the cell phones that had pics of him in the exact same location? They've got that awesome photo technology, too?

Not only that, the person taking the job is 15 ft tall to get that angle?
Watch the video above your post, notice where they are standing over his body. End of the building towards the parking lot. Then go watch videos on camera focal lengths and what happens to the background as you zoom in.
Can you post the video?

Because I'm trying to understand how the geometry works for a person 6 ft tall filming a building that's 15 ft tall and seeing something on the roof that's 120 ft across the roof.


Look at the Google Street view screenshots here:
https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3475585/replies/68101377#68101377

The back of the building where the video and photos are taken are several get below the ground level compared to where the spectators were.
Ok...this pic may explain it...with a long zoom.



However...there're still pics closer to the building that show him closer to the near edge. They were phone videos, not photog pics.

Again, I'm just trying to figure out the geometry.

The video camera is at grade that is higher than the base of the building and not right next to the building.

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Tim was spot on.
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Looking at where his body is, assuming he was not moved, the counter sniper team behind Trump that looked like discombobulated may not have been able to see the shooter due to trees.

Heck, some of those renderings showing both teams in relation to the shooter make it look like the second team could barely see him. If he moved five feet to his left, he may have been completely invisible to both teams.

Of course a team on the water tower would have seen him with ease.
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Agthatbuilds said:

I dont think this was a set up or any weird conspiracy.

This was gross negligence. This was utter incompetence.

I think it's likely there was mass confusion and the counter snipers didn't know/couldn't confirm that the assassin was a bad guy because the locals were in the building.

I also don't think this kid was anything more than a crazy loner, probably on meds and someone looking for a way to make his name known.

It is such a failure it does beg the question of am inside job and it's gonna take a hell of a Lotta work to prove otherwise.
I believe that this was malicious incompetence.

Why else would democrats be bringing bills to the floor that eliminates SS protection for "convicted felons"?
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Now this 'lone wolf' somehow had a van there too?


I've seen no explanation, at all, why Trump was left on stage for the 26 minutes the SS knew the 'suspect' was suspiciously moving on that roof.

More on the range finder etc:


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