Shots fired at Trump [Keep it factual -- Staff]

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aTm2004 said:

In case anyone needs a pick me up


Nice sentiment.....but totally fake although nice try. Notice the flags on the bar & video is 'shopped in.
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Nooooo way
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CyclingAg82 said:

aTm2004 said:

In case anyone needs a pick me up


Nice sentiment.....but totally fake although nice try. Notice the flags on the bar & video is 'shopped in.


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harge57 said:

Nooooo way
I know, I am master of pointing out the obvious.....
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I've been out of pocket today so please pardon if this is known and already discussed.

Regarding the cop that climbed the ladder and had the shooter draw down on him....

Have there been civilian witnesses corroborate this? Did anyone actually see a cop climb said ladder? I haven't yet seen this is a corroborated fact and I just flat out don't trust the media or the "authorities" to not be feeding us BS just to save face...
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bigblock said:

I've been out of pocket today so please pardon if this is known and already discussed.

Regarding the cop that climbed the ladder and had the shooter draw down on him....

Have there been civilian witnesses corroborate this? Did anyone actually see a cop climb said ladder? I haven't yet seen this is a corroborated fact and I just flat out don't trust the media or the "authorities" to not be feeding us BS just to save face...


Nope just a statement on the condition of anonymity. So can't even have another outlet follow up
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bigblock said:

I've been out of pocket today so please pardon if this is known and already discussed.

Regarding the cop that climbed the ladder and had the shooter draw down on him....

Have there been civilian witnesses corroborate this? Did anyone actually see a cop climb said ladder? I haven't yet seen this is a corroborated fact and I just flat out don't trust the media or the "authorities" to not be feeding us BS just to save face...


There is a video of the shooter staying still for a long time. Not sure if he actually shot or not in that video. The cop thing doesn't seem legit
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bigblock said:

I've been out of pocket today so please pardon if this is known and already discussed.

Regarding the cop that climbed the ladder and had the shooter draw down on him....

Have there been civilian witnesses corroborate this? Did anyone actually see a cop climb said ladder? I haven't yet seen this is a corroborated fact and I just flat out don't trust the media or the "authorities" to not be feeding us BS just to save face...


Nope. Only a couple of anonymous LE sources, and even then, they wouldn't have seen what the shooter actually did. None of the people calling out the shooter have said they saw a cop going up.

Even id this rumor is true, I'm guessing cop went up, sees rifle and knows his 9mm is outgunned, and drops back down unseen, expecting to rally more help. Shooter never sees him. Then starts shooting at Trump, because why wait any longer once Trump is onstage and you are ready. The longer you wait, the less chance of success you have

I don't buy anything they are putting out
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rolo said:




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“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
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Has any information been leaked by the local cops?

24-hours out and we retreading the same ground.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Has any information been leaked by the local cops?

24-hours out and we retreading the same ground.
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I'm going to assume the feds have them on lockdown.
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So cops were looking for this guy before he fired shots. That's what one eye witness reported.

Why was Secret Service not notified and Trump defended.
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YouBet said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Has any information been leaked by the local cops?

24-hours out and we retreading the same ground.
'I'm going to assume the feds have them on lockdown.
Wonder if / when the locals give a press conference whether there'll be a FBI guy standing ominously behind the speaker like we saw in Vegas.
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The longer we aren't told the more we can be sure on the motive. They only cover for one side
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Woman SS Agent when they got to Trump -

"What are we doing?!"
"What are we doing?!"
"Where are we going?!"


The fact that she doesn't know the plan is completely outrageous. Do these people not train for these scenarios?

I'd be worried if I was Trump. Are they giving him the D team for SS protection? She needs to be relieved of her duties asap.
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bmks270 said:

So cops were looking for this guy before he fired shots. That's what one eye witness reported.

Why was Secret Service not notified and Trump defended.


You see them scrambling behind stage but doing nothing to get Trump out of harm's way. There is so much the SS has to answer for
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rolo said:




Biden and Democrats and Democrat propagandists,
"Do what I say, not what I do."
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HarryJ33tamu said:

Woman SS Agent when they got to Trump -

"What are we doing?!"
"What are we doing?!"
"Where are we going?!"
Shocks the conscience.

It really does.
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HarryJ33tamu said:

Woman SS Agent when they got to Trump -

"What are we doing?!"
"What are we doing?!"
"Where are we going?!"


The fact that she doesn't know the plan is completely outrageous. Do these people not train for these scenarios?

I'd be worried if I was Trump. Are they giving him the D team for SS protection? She needs to be relieved of her duties asap.


All the info coming out is showing the Secret Service were completely incompetent and not qualified for this mission.

Perimeter roof tops not secured.
Shooter reported by bystanders.
Cops actively looking for the guy.
Message didn't seem to be relayed to cover Trump.
They don't secure Trump.
They let the assassin get a shot off.
Agents don't know what to do when shots ring out.

Things like this don't happen without multiple failures.

Planning and threat response protocols failed.
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I've been at ban camp. That's given me the opportunity to simply observe.

I dont think this guy was necessarily a far left militant. It looks to me like he was a crazy lover, pushed on by violent media rhetoric.

What better way to make a name for yourself than saving the country from Trump?

We'll see, but I don't think there's going to be any substantial link to antifa or democrats or leftist in general.

The SS screwed the pooch big time. There is no way that roof shouldn't have been either manned or on permanent observation. The director of SS should be fired and publicly shamed.
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bmks270 said:

So cops were looking for this guy before he fired shots. That's what one eye witness reported.

Why was Secret Service not notified and Trump defended.


According to witnesses, they were pointing at the shooter and shouting that there was a guy with a gun. The cops should have known where he was because they were told exactly where he was.
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bmks270 said:

HarryJ33tamu said:

Woman SS Agent when they got to Trump -

"What are we doing?!"
"What are we doing?!"
"Where are we going?!"


The fact that she doesn't know the plan is completely outrageous. Do these people not train for these scenarios?

I'd be worried if I was Trump. Are they giving him the D team for SS protection? She needs to be relieved of her duties asap.


All the info coming out is showing the Secret Service were completely incompetent and not qualified for this mission.

Perimeter roof tops not secured.
Shooter reported by bystanders.
Cops actively looking for the guy.
They don't secure Trump.
They let the assassin get a shot off.
Agents don't know what to do when shots ring out.

Things like this don't happen without multiple failures.

Planning and threat response protocols failed.


You might say it's...systemic.

Just like our mythological white supremacist problem.
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If this is a conspiracy they would have found somebody that could shoot.

This is just mass incompetence.
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bmks270 said:

HarryJ33tamu said:

Woman SS Agent when they got to Trump -

"What are we doing?!"
"What are we doing?!"
"Where are we going?!"


The fact that she doesn't know the plan is completely outrageous. Do these people not train for these scenarios?

I'd be worried if I was Trump. Are they giving him the D team for SS protection? She needs to be relieved of her duties asap.


All the info coming out is showing the Secret Service were completely incompetent and not qualified for this mission.

Perimeter roof tops not secured.
Shooter reported by bystanders.
Cops actively looking for the guy.
Message didn't seem to be relayed to cover Trump.
They don't secure Trump.
They let the assassin get a shot off.
Agents don't know what to do when shots ring out.

Things like this don't happen without multiple failures.

Planning and threat response protocols failed.


He actually got THREE shots off before return fire took out the shooter.
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
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Jesus Christ how could you not see him
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Barnyard96 said:

If this is a conspiracy they would have found somebody that could shoot.

This is just mass incompetence.
Yep, "never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence."

But conspiracies are more fun for people because they can mold them to fit preconceived ideas and simply ignore anything which doesn't fit.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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"If you see something, say something"

This fundamental tenet was overshadowed by the quest for DEI and as much tacticool gear as money can buy.

At the end of the day it all fell on a single cop reluctantly shimmying up a ladder to investigate what multiple eyewitnesses saw and said.
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This guy is an unhinged lunatic leftists psycho….

…he's also a key member of a grand conspiracy.
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Rapier108 said:

Barnyard96 said:

If this is a conspiracy they would have found somebody that could shoot.

This is just mass incompetence.
Yep, "never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence."

But conspiracies are more fun for people because they can mold them to fit preconceived ideas and simply ignore anything which doesn't fit.

Yup. Exactly this.
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Need to cross ref the speech audio in that vid to the rally and see how long beforehand it was known that he was there
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Quote:

"What are we doing?!"
"What are we doing?!"
"Where are we going?!"
Who says it best?

A member of Trump's secret service detail or your own mother-in-law?
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