Biden cancels FEMA aid on the same day he authorized it

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Tom Kazansky 2012
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Rack monster has left the building. Shocking.
Ellis Wyatt
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rackmonster said:



You guys are just plain infantile.
You got exposed as being disingenuous (a nice word for what you are) and now you want to call the kettle black?

You're wrong. It's sad that an entire political party is dedicated to nothing but power.
fixer
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I can't add anything to this discussion.

What a classic F16 beatdown.

Well done.
sanitariex
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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

Rack monster has left the building. Shocking.
This.
45-70Ag
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Tea Party said:

45-70Ag said:

Tea Party said:

45-70Ag said:

Texit isn't solving the issue of Harris county, bexar county and Travis county.

Those counties will continue to be an issue texit or not.
TEXIT means we don't have to deal with federal problems like us paying federal taxes then the federal government withholding funds in times of an emergency.

Texans would deal with our own problems rather than be dependent on the whims of what the majority of 49 other states think, via Biden for example.


Assuming elections still happen in Texas after texit, the idiots that dominate these counties will still be voting for the same people they currently are. Houston, Austin and San Antonio will continue to be a problem in multiple ways.
Yes, but would you rather have to negotiate with blue Texans in the cities or would you rather negotiate with blue Texans in the cities AND blue coastal people?


Lina Hidalgo, John Wiley price, clay jenkins, the current da of Travis county……..I'm not sure dealing with blue Texans is that big of a difference, especially if they're financed by soros.
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And just like that…

He's gone
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Rackmonster is some Northeast Lib that probably works at a museum or library in a meaningless job, yet completely dependent on the federal government for everything. He hears his bosses talk about the awful red states and repeats the lies he hears. That reply showing the Heritage Foundation's response to the waste of the Sandy Relief will never get a response. He won't read it. He'll call it Faux News or blame it on some neo-con organization and he will stay in his liberal bubble, believing AOC is our future.

Funny thing about useful idiots like him. When the Amerikan government takes over his blue state completely and he gets mad that one of his coworkers disappears after complaining about some benefit being removed, he will find himself in front of a panel, preparing for a gulag he never saw coming, all from questioning why he can't have a pension for 200% of his pay. And then he will disappear forever, along with his other useful idiots that know nothing about real history that he's never learned because it's racist or homophobic or xenophobic. History, real history, is chock full of idiots like this poster. That line forms to the left and runs miles long.
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rackmonster said:

Do any of you guys remember when Hurricane Sandy devastated to the Northeast back in 2012, and the entire Texas GOP Delegation (and Ted Cruz) voted against it? That had never been done before. Disaster Relief for any part of the country was never politicized. Until you clowns did it.

You do nothing but mock and demonize the rest of the Good Old USA..."Federal Tyranny!!!"

Yeah, you hate us Blue Staters, but you sure don't hate my Blue State money.

FEMA to the Rescue!!!

Because the Texas GOP couldn't run a Hot Dog Stand.

Please get your filthy Red State hands out of my Blue State pocket...you Moochers.



Unhinged and so emotional. Perhaps if you took time to actually look at the facts instead of purely relying on your emotions to rage you might be able to live a more happy life.
Good luck to you.
Satellite of Love
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Yea let's not crap on libraries or museums. They are very useful.
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ProgN said:

rackmonster said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

rackmonster said:

Do any of you guys remember when Hurricane Sandy devastated to the Northeast back in 2012, and the entire Texas GOP Delegation (and Ted Cruz) voted against it?
Yes. Because, as always, the dims loaded a bunch of bull**** into the bill that had nothing to do with the hurricane. The dims were playing politics and then lied so people like you would parrot their lies.

Good job. This is nothing at all like that.
I looked at that Sandy Relief Bill. The Republicans said it was loaded with "pork" that was not related to Hurricane Relief. Sure. most of what they were referring to was funds to purchase more Hurricane Hunter Aircraft, and improved avionics on said aircraft. But the Texas GOP had to resort to Political Theatrics as always..."We showed them Libs!!!!'

You guys are just plain infantile.

https://thefederalist.com/2017/08/31/sandy-relief-bill-chock-full-pork/
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Here's the CBO score. Note when the bulk of money was actually expected to be spent. According to CBO's outlay tables, 24 billion dollars of the allocated funds weren't expected to be spent until 2016 or after. The hurricane, for reference, was in 2012. And according to CBO, nearly 4 billion of the spending in that bill didn't even pretend to be for emergencies: 3.459 billion was actually designated as non-emergency spending.

The bill itself is here. Its summary is here. Cruz's statement at the time on the Sandy bill is here. And the Roll Call vote is here. Here is a Heritage report about the bill at the time. Here is fiscal hawk Tom Coburn on the problems with emergency disaster bills. And here are some things you will find if you read all of these, including specific spending in the Sandy relief bill that has nothing to do with emergency needs or any relation to disaster relief:

16,000,000,000 dollars for Community Development Block Grants (11 billion higher than HUD was requesting at the time)
600,000,000 for State and Tribal Assistance Grants under the EPA
348,000,000 for "construction" for the National Park Service
100,000,000 for Head Start
50,000,000 for the Historic Preservation Fund at the NPS
45,000,000 for upgrades to NOAA aircraft
22,000,000 for upgrading NOAA weather equipment
50,000,000 for "construction" for Fish and Wildlife Services
24,000,000 for the Defense Working Capital Fund
10,000,000 to Small Business Administration to plus up grants to organizations seeking to participate in disaster relief
4,400,000 for "capital improvement" to the Forestry Service
3,000,000 for oil spill research
2,000,000 for the Smithsonian's famously leaky roofs.
1,000,000 for new cars for the DEA.
1,000,000 to the Legal Services Corporation.

There's more than that, but this seems to be the most obvious examples. Consider this question: even today, five years removed from Sandy, how much of these billions of dollars in appropriated taxpayer money remains to be spent?

Progs wouldn't know the truth if it hit them where their balls used to be.
Thanks for posting, it is always nice to know the facts. If anything the request for aid done in the name of this hurricane was a politically motivated pile of crap. No wonder the leftist progressives of the Democratic Party leadership do this bull**** is to deceive people into believing their lies.
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Tom Kazansky 2012
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Satellite of Love said:

Yea let's not crap on libraries or museums. They are very useful.


They should be. But they're havens for corruption and embezzlement from the American people sadly.
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ProgN said:

rackmonster said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

rackmonster said:

Do any of you guys remember when Hurricane Sandy devastated to the Northeast back in 2012, and the entire Texas GOP Delegation (and Ted Cruz) voted against it?
Yes. Because, as always, the dims loaded a bunch of bull**** into the bill that had nothing to do with the hurricane. The dims were playing politics and then lied so people like you would parrot their lies.

Good job. This is nothing at all like that.
I looked at that Sandy Relief Bill. The Republicans said it was loaded with "pork" that was not related to Hurricane Relief. Sure. most of what they were referring to was funds to purchase more Hurricane Hunter Aircraft, and improved avionics on said aircraft. But the Texas GOP had to resort to Political Theatrics as always..."We showed them Libs!!!!'

You guys are just plain infantile.

https://thefederalist.com/2017/08/31/sandy-relief-bill-chock-full-pork/
Quote:

Here's the CBO score. Note when the bulk of money was actually expected to be spent. According to CBO's outlay tables, 24 billion dollars of the allocated funds weren't expected to be spent until 2016 or after. The hurricane, for reference, was in 2012. And according to CBO, nearly 4 billion of the spending in that bill didn't even pretend to be for emergencies: 3.459 billion was actually designated as non-emergency spending.

The bill itself is here. Its summary is here. Cruz's statement at the time on the Sandy bill is here. And the Roll Call vote is here. Here is a Heritage report about the bill at the time. Here is fiscal hawk Tom Coburn on the problems with emergency disaster bills. And here are some things you will find if you read all of these, including specific spending in the Sandy relief bill that has nothing to do with emergency needs or any relation to disaster relief:

16,000,000,000 dollars for Community Development Block Grants (11 billion higher than HUD was requesting at the time)
600,000,000 for State and Tribal Assistance Grants under the EPA
348,000,000 for "construction" for the National Park Service
100,000,000 for Head Start
50,000,000 for the Historic Preservation Fund at the NPS
45,000,000 for upgrades to NOAA aircraft
22,000,000 for upgrading NOAA weather equipment
50,000,000 for "construction" for Fish and Wildlife Services
24,000,000 for the Defense Working Capital Fund
10,000,000 to Small Business Administration to plus up grants to organizations seeking to participate in disaster relief
4,400,000 for "capital improvement" to the Forestry Service
3,000,000 for oil spill research
2,000,000 for the Smithsonian's famously leaky roofs.
1,000,000 for new cars for the DEA.
1,000,000 to the Legal Services Corporation.

There's more than that, but this seems to be the most obvious examples. Consider this question: even today, five years removed from Sandy, how much of these billions of dollars in appropriated taxpayer money remains to be spent?

Progs wouldn't know the truth if it hit them where their balls used to be.


Rackmonster's head should be declared a disaster area because it just got caved in
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outofstateaggie said:

Posted on the other thread as well.




Maybe Dora is planning to use the leftover Harvey fund for Beryl rather than spending it on free lawyers for illegal aliens.
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Dear Houstonians.
This is what the democrats think of you....

Vote straight Republican next November... Send a message to the Democrats in DC. "Don't mess with Texas"
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Ammended, not canceled.

Texas Scorecard again with the fake news.

https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20240712/president-joseph-r-biden-jr-amends-texas-major-disaster-declaration
Gig 'Em
Logos Stick
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Anonymous Source said:

Ammended, not canceled.

Texas Scorecard again with the fake news.

https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20240712/president-joseph-r-biden-jr-amends-texas-major-disaster-declaration



Can you show us the fake news?

They literally interviewed Patrick and reported what he said, genius.

"Acting Gov. Dan Patrick has levied accusations against President Biden alleging that the president has misled him, Gov. Abbott, and the people of Texas by ending a Major Disaster Declaration the same day he granted it"
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Also genius, that change was on July 12th.

The one referred to by Patrick ended on the 9th.

There was NO fake news by anyone but you.
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rackmonster said:

Do any of you guys remember when Hurricane Sandy devastated to the Northeast back in 2012, and the entire Texas GOP Delegation (and Ted Cruz) voted against it? That had never been done before. Disaster Relief for any part of the country was never politicized. Until you clowns did it.

You do nothing but mock and demonize the rest of the Good Old USA..."Federal Tyranny!!!"

Yeah, you hate us Blue Staters, but you sure don't hate my Blue State money.

FEMA to the Rescue!!!

Because the Texas GOP couldn't run a Hot Dog Stand.

Please get your filthy Red State hands out of my Blue State pocket...you Moochers.




It wasn't a hurricane.
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Logos Stick said:

Also genius, that change was in July 12th.

The one referred to by Patrick ended on the 9th.

There was NO fake news by anyone but you.


Well, first of all, when the disaster declaration was made, the initial declaration was only for debris removal (Category A) and emergency protective measures (Category B). Initially, it did not cover federal funds for home repairs. The amended authorization now covers home repairs, while still reimbursing localities for their expenses.

Texas Scorecard doesn't mention any of this, genius, even though adjustments to things like this happen all the time.
Gig 'Em
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Can someone summarize the story here? I've seen Biden claim he couldn't get a hold of Abbot, something about Paxton refuting that, and then now that Harris wasn't even asking for help in the first place?
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