Food stamp study proves what we already knew

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13427729/study-welfare-food-stamps-SNAP-junk-processed.html

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An alarming study has spotlighted how 42 million food stamp recipients spend their welfare handouts on ultra-processed junk food.

Coca-Cola, Sprite and other soft drinks are the most commonly-bought items via the $135 billion-a-year Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), a new study says.

Candy, potato chips, frozen pizza, ice cream, cookies, and other ultra-processed food dominates the top 20 items, says a report from the Economic Policy Innovation Center (EPIC).


More like junk food stamps, amiright? How much money you reckon these companies spend to make sure their products stay on the SNAP lists? Republicans are trying to change things, according to the article, but I'm not hopeful.

This is wasted tax money that leads to obesity and more wasted money on preventable healthcare issues.
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Sprite, huh?
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Absolutely no reason tax payer money should be used to purchase junk food.

But you are correct, the lobbies run DC.
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Imagine the reduction in health care costs if SNAP money was limited to basic food items (protein, veggies, fruits, breads, etc) and excluded soda, candy, cookies, ice cream, etc.

Diabetes -- down
Heart disease -- down
Weight related issues -- down

But noooooo! If "rich people" can have ice cream, then gimmee mine too!
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Imagine if they actually looked into what people were spending the rest of their money on too.


A few years ago the news had a story about a free food giveaway at one of the schools. The number of Lexus, BMW, and Mercedes in the line was mind-blowing.
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My favorite is watching them by an entire cart of junk food on food stamps then pull out cash for cigarettes and beer.
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"But……but………but………it's expensive to eat healthy!" [\whiny voice]

Bulls$#@. People simply don't know how to budget, plan, and eat healthy. Generational welfare has done that. Go to a WIC system for commodities and get it over with.
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In reply to MemphisAg1 • 3:07p, 5/20/24
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MemphisAg1 said:
Imagine the reduction in health care costs if SNAP money was limited to basic food items (protein, veggies, fruits, breads, etc) and excluded soda, candy, cookies, ice cream, etc.

Diabetes -- down
Heart disease -- down
Weight related issues -- down

But noooooo! If "rich people" can have ice cream, then gimmee mine too!



Those are also health issues that cripple our healthcare system that is taxpayer supported.
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should be limited to bread, fresh/frozen/canned fruits/veggies, eggs, milk, cheese, and fresh/frozen raw meat.
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In reply to ATX_AG_08 • 3:13p, 5/20/24
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My favorite is watching them by an entire cart of junk food on food stamps then pull out cash for cigarettes and beer.
Also the folks that buy a cart full of raw ingredients for their taco truck and pay with a lone star card.

Boxes of frozen crab legs is another popular item at the first of the month when cards get re-upped. You''ll notice that wal-marts has created a special end cap freezer for this.
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"Equality means equal access to sustainable, palettable, calorically gifted foods. We should expand SNAP to all persons dispraportionally affected by the historically racist food and sugar industries. This inequality is a systemic holdover from an era bygone when sugar plantions ran on slave labor" - some lib somewhere
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Born into a never ending cycle of being on the dole.

These programs were originally designed for short term assistance.

Help to get you back on your feet when falling on hard times.

Now it's a lifestyle and a scam.
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Would be cheaper to put them on Ozempic than buy their groceries.
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bag of apples
bag of potatoes
bag of carrots
bananas
loaf of bread
pot roast
pork butt
couple whole chickens


There's your food for the week. Learn how to cook.

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If they simply made food stamps only for tax exempt items it would make a huge difference.
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In reply to Urban Ag • 3:32p, 5/20/24
Urban Ag said:
bag of apples
bag of potatoes
bag of carrots
bananas
loaf of bread
pot roast
pork butt
couple whole chickens


There's your food for the week. Learn how to cook.

Head of cabbage
Bag of onions
Jar of pb
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In reply to KidDoc • 3:33p, 5/20/24
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If they simply made food stamps only for tax exempt items it would make a huge difference.
All food is taxed here.


Make it more like WIC instead
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Food stamps should allow the following, nothing more. Ground beef. chicken and pork, along with any dried or canned beans and peas. Any fresh produce Bread, milk, eggs, rice and fruit juice. Maybe baby formula. Anything else is luxury. Maybe I have left off a couple of essentials, but you get the point
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Urban's gourmet meal recipe first year out of A&M, no money, in debt, and trying to impress my future wife (by spending what I could taking her out):

1 can Ranch Style beans
3-4 packets of Taco Bell hot sauce
any form of non moldy cheese I had in the fridge
mystery meat (lunchmeat, leftovers, etc)

Bonus - some stale tortilla or potato chips if available.

Heat beans with hot sauce, stir in cheese and mystery meat, add stale chips to top once cheese melted. Lone Star 16 oz for the beverage. Done.
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Poor people making poor choices that ensure they remain poor.
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In reply to MemphisAg1 • 3:35p, 5/20/24
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MemphisAg1 said:
Imagine the reduction in health care costs if SNAP money was limited to basic food items (protein, veggies, fruits, breads, etc) and excluded soda, candy, cookies, ice cream, etc.

Diabetes -- down
Heart disease -- down
Weight related issues -- down

But noooooo! If "rich people" can have ice cream, then gimmee mine too!
Unhealthy people create more jobs </liberalism>
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Food stamps should allow the following, nothing more. Ground beef. chicken and pork, along with any dried or canned beans and peas. Any fresh produce Bread, milk, eggs, rice and fruit juice. Maybe baby formula. Anything else is luxury. Maybe I have left off a couple of essentials, but you get the point
Republicans are taking away your food.
I can hear it now.
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they also die sooner, and that's good for Mother Gaia

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In reply to ATX_AG_08 • 3:41p, 5/20/24
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My favorite is watching them by an entire cart of junk food on food stamps then pull out cash for cigarettes and beer.
And when they leave, they get into their $100K Cadillac Escalade with an $25K in extra bling.
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The real problem here is that government, by its nature, leads to perverse incentives.

If people had adequate food, no one in SNAP would have a job.
It makes sense to have more people hungry, so you get a bigger budget
It makes sense to have a much larger backlog of (illegal) immigrants, so you get a bigger budget
It makes sense to have junk food be covered by SNAP, so that you can justify a bigger budget
It makes sense to have wars, so that the VA always has patients, and the you can request a bigger budget
It make sense that our kids education standard is poor, so that you can justify a higher budget (that ones has a bonus in that you also guarantee yourself a stupid democrat voter)

The list of perverse incentives is never ending.

The answer is small(er) government. But we know what happened when Ted Cruz tried that.
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Just go back to commodities like they had years ago. Get your free stuff, take it home, cook it any way you want to. Don't want to cook???? Fine. Root hog, or die.
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In reply to deddog • 3:47p, 5/20/24
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2040huck said:
Food stamps should allow the following, nothing more. Ground beef. chicken and pork, along with any dried or canned beans and peas. Any fresh produce Bread, milk, eggs, rice and fruit juice. Maybe baby formula. Anything else is luxury. Maybe I have left off a couple of essentials, but you get the point
Republicans are taking away your food.
I can hear it now.
Biden told folk yesterday at Morehouse graduation that republicans were taking away their access to water while standing in line to vote.
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I've told this story here before, but way back in my high school days, when I worked at a suburban grocery store, I encountered a real life "welfare queen" one Saturday morning.

She was all dolled up in fancy clothes and bought two baskets chock full of groceries, including steaks and other high-cost items, paid for it all with food stamps (likely bought from others in her neighborhood for pennies on the dollar), and then had us wheel out the baskets to her late model Caddy.

None of the kids working the front had ever even seen food stamps before, so I'm sure she got away with buying a bunch of stuff that wasn't allowed. Part of her gameplan, I guess.

Seeing such blatant fraud really informed my young beliefs about the value of such programs.

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I quit drinking cokes in general in 2018. I used to LOVE Coke (Coca Cola) and my drinking habits were a few here and there at that time, but I always had the intense craving. Since, I've drank a lot of flavored seltzer water -- no sugar. It is essentially club soda with a lemon, lime, or other similar flavoring. I like it and it usually takes care of my thirst and cravings.

About 6 months ago, I got an intense craving for a Coke and decided to take a sip. I wouldn't say nasty but I didn't like it. Last night, I got another very intense craving and opened up another can (I keep soft drinks on hand for parties). Worse than 6 months ago. Borderline nasty. Definitely not the pleasurable taste I remember and used to love.

I knew I wouldn't fall off the wagon but now I REALLY don't want another sweetened soft drink as long as I live. All it takes is to stay off those things for about 4-6 months and you won't want to drink them again.
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Burdizzo said:
Imagine if they actually looked into what people were spending the rest of their money on too.


A few years ago the news had a story about a free food giveaway at one of the schools. The number of Lexus, BMW, and Mercedes in the line was mind-blowing.
At my previous job, our office building was located next to the food bank. About once a month or so, they would do food giveaways. I always knew what day it was on because all of the $40,000+ vehicles would be lined up down the block at 8:00 waiting for them to open up. All of them sitting in their cars running the a/c burning up $3+/gallon gas and talking on their smart phones.

First time I saw this was the last time I donated to the food bank.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:
ATX_AG_08 said:
My favorite is watching them by an entire cart of junk food on food stamps then pull out cash for cigarettes and beer.
Also the folks that buy a cart full of raw ingredients for their taco truck and pay with a lone star card.

Boxes of frozen crab legs is another popular item at the first of the month when cards get re-upped. You''ll notice that wal-marts has created a special end cap freezer for this.
Nothing like seeing someone fill two shopping carts with various sizes and flavors of sodas and pay for it all with their Lone Star Card. You know that they will all be in some convenience stores cooler with in an hour.
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91AggieLawyer said:
I quit drinking cokes in general in 2018. I used to LOVE Coke (Coca Cola) and my drinking habits were a few here and there at that time, but I always had the intense craving. Since, I've drank a lot of flavored seltzer water -- no sugar. It is essentially club soda with a lemon, lime, or other similar flavoring. I like it and it usually takes care of my thirst and cravings.

About 6 months ago, I got an intense craving for a Coke and decided to take a sip. I wouldn't say nasty but I didn't like it. Last night, I got another very intense craving and opened up another can (I keep soft drinks on hand for parties). Worse than 6 months ago. Borderline nasty. Definitely not the pleasurable taste I remember and used to love.

I knew I wouldn't fall off the wagon but now I REALLY don't want another sweetened soft drink as long as I live. All it takes is to stay off those things for about 4-6 months and you won't want to drink them again.
Ever been a smoker? Try quitting for several years then go back and take a puff. Same experience. Secondhand smoke is also much more noxious as a former smoker than a pre-smoker.
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91AggieLawyer said:
I quit drinking cokes in general in 2018. I used to LOVE Coke (Coca Cola) and my drinking habits were a few here and there at that time, but I always had the intense craving. Since, I've drank a lot of flavored seltzer water -- no sugar. It is essentially club soda with a lemon, lime, or other similar flavoring. I like it and it usually takes care of my thirst and cravings.

About 6 months ago, I got an intense craving for a Coke and decided to take a sip. I wouldn't say nasty but I didn't like it. Last night, I got another very intense craving and opened up another can (I keep soft drinks on hand for parties). Worse than 6 months ago. Borderline nasty. Definitely not the pleasurable taste I remember and used to love.

I knew I wouldn't fall off the wagon but now I REALLY don't want another sweetened soft drink as long as I live. All it takes is to stay off those things for about 4-6 months and you won't want to drink them again.
I drank 2-4 Coke Zero's a day for at least 10 years. I just stopped cold turkey last year. One cup of black coffee in the morning and then, like you, sparkling water. Sometimes some jug ice tea (unsweet) or just tap water.

The amount of just "bloat" that comes off you over time is startling. Stopped drinking beer two. I may have one at dinner now and then but that's it.

Soda is terrible for people, even the zero calorie stuff.
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HUGE shock. Big time.
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