Circuit court strikes down AZ requirement of US Citizenship to vote

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8:50a, 5/20/24
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In a ruling at the beginning of March the court says it violates the Voting Rights act to verify US citizenship to vote in federal elections. Millions of illegal immigrants allowed in. Courts saying citizenship not required to vote. FedGov taking steps to register voters in states (illegals? strange numbers of undocumented registration requests?) It is all coming into focus.


ETA Article about the 2021 executive order that got federal agencies involved in voter registration in the states
Feds registering voters

link to exec order
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8:52a, 5/20/24
nO eViDeNcE oF voTeR frAuD!!!
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8:54a, 5/20/24
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bUt IlLeGAlZ cAnt VoT3, yu js racis xenofub!!!



/Every democrat in the country.

Yeah, non-citizens cant vote. Just like they cant get welfare benefits.

****ing idiots.
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8:55a, 5/20/24
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There was a time in this country when politicians would get hanged for this behavior. And this country was a better place for it.
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9:03a, 5/20/24
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We are all complicit for allowing things like this time after time
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9:05a, 5/20/24
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It's all going according to the plan the Democrats have been working for years. No country can prevail for long against this kind of lawlessness and treachery. In their quest for power they are destroying everything that has made this country great, and slowly turning it into a third world socialist state.
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9:06a, 5/20/24
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Requiring US citizenship in federal elections is another thing the GOP controlled House and Senate should have done but didn't during the beginning of Trump's term.
Fight! Fight! Fight!
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9:08a, 5/20/24
Lawyers


(Since judges have to be lawyers)


How is this even "a thing"?

If I were to illegally immigrate to, say, Russia and then claim to have a say in their governance, I'd be rightly jailed and, probably, expelled. WTF are these people smoking!?
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In reply to TexAgs91 • 9:26a, 5/20/24
TexAgs91 said:
Requiring US citizenship in federal elections is another thing the GOP controlled House and Senate should have done but didn't during the beginning of Trump's term.



GOP controlled = establishment uniparty


See pos mccain voting to keep obummer care in place
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9:28a, 5/20/24
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why even bother voting anymore

what a ****ing joke
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9:31a, 5/20/24
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All We The People have left is the ammo box.
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9:32a, 5/20/24
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They aren't even trying to hide it anymore

They're now very openly saying "We let in tens of millions of illegals aliens and we fully intend to let them vote to keep us in power. If we can't get American citizens to vote for us, we'll import in citizens of other countries and let them overrule you!"

COVID was the fix for 2020

Illegals are the fix for this time
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11:18a, 5/20/24
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https://www.usa.gov/who-can-vote

Quote:
Who can and cannot vote
Learn if you meet the qualifications to vote in federal, state, and local elections.
Who can vote?
You can vote in U.S. federal, state, and local elections if you:
  • Are a U.S. citizen (some areas allow non-citizens to vote in local elections only)
  • Meet your state's residency requirements
  • Are 18 years old on or before Election Day
    • In almost every state, you can register to vote before you turn 18 if you will be 18 by Election Day.
    • Some states allow 17-year-olds who will be 18 by Election Day to vote in primaries.
  • Are registered to vote by your state's voter registration deadline. North Dakota does not require voter registration.
Who cannot vote?
  • Non-citizens, including permanent legal residents, cannot vote in federal, state, and most local elections.
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11:23a, 5/20/24
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TEXIT now.
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11:27a, 5/20/24
Are they saying you do not have to be a citizen to vote in federal elections or that you cannot require "proof" of citizenship to vote?
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11:33a, 5/20/24
You just have to require proof of US Citizenship and do not allow non-citizens to vote. As a state, you just do it and do not ask for permission.
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In reply to Tom Fox • 11:36a, 5/20/24
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A distinction without a difference.
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In reply to cr06gis • 11:45a, 5/20/24
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cr06gis said:
why even bother voting anymore

what a ****ing joke
If for no other reason than to uphold the virtues of what made America.

If you're like me, I plan on going down with the ship.

If I can get my kids out of here to something better, I will.

I'll die in Texas. Screaming if necessary.

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11:47a, 5/20/24
dems safeguarding the election
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11:48a, 5/20/24
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The United States is a feudalist society. Laws no longer apply.
2+2=5
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In reply to TexasRebel • 11:51a, 5/20/24
TexasRebel said:
A distinction without a difference.


Legally, the first is unconstitutional on its face. And will be struck down asap. Hence, the question.
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11:52a, 5/20/24
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I'm registered to vote in Arizona and had to show my birth certificate. Maybe that's because I looked like a guy that won't vote for the regime.
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In reply to Tom Fox • 12:00p, 5/20/24
Tom Fox said:
Are they saying you do not have to be a citizen to vote in federal elections or that you cannot require "proof" of citizenship to vote?

It's the latter. If I read the laws correctly, it's the responsibility of the county recorder to prove that someone isn't eligible to vote. It's not the responsibility of the person registering to vote to prove that they are a US citizen.
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In reply to Tom Fox • 12:01p, 5/20/24
Tom Fox said:
TexasRebel said:
A distinction without a difference.


Legally, the first is unconstitutional on its face. And will be struck down asap. Hence, the question.
Yes, but will that be before or after the November election?
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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 12:04p, 5/20/24
The first would be struck down by the circuit court before the election. It clearly violates the constitution.

I am unsure on the second. I'm an attorney but not an election law attorney.
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In reply to HTownAg98 • 12:29p, 5/20/24
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HTownAg98 said:
Tom Fox said:
Are they saying you do not have to be a citizen to vote in federal elections or that you cannot require "proof" of citizenship to vote?

It's the latter. If I read the laws correctly, it's the responsibility of the county recorder to prove that someone isn't eligible to vote. It's not the responsibility of the person registering to vote to prove that they are a US citizen.


If a person cannot offer proof that they are a citizen, is that not proof that they are not a citizen?
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In reply to Slicer97 • 12:37p, 5/20/24
Slicer97 said:
There was a time in this country when politicians would get hanged for this behavior. And this country was a better place for it.
I am fine with anything that happens to any politician. To democrats for how they are and Republicans for not doing anything about it.
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12:50p, 5/20/24
I love how the Biden voting never trumpers stay quiet on threads like this
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12:58p, 5/20/24
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At this point - is there even any real advantage to being a US citizen, especially in the US?

I honestly can't think of a single item.
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1:04p, 5/20/24
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Time for texit.
FJB
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In reply to schmellba99 • 1:05p, 5/20/24
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schmellba99 said:
At this point - is there even any real advantage to being a US citizen, especially in the US?

I honestly can't think of a single item.
As long as the Dems are running things and the RINOs are letting them, no.
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In reply to jja79 • 1:12p, 5/20/24
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jja79 said:
I'm registered to vote in Arizona and had to show my birth certificate. Maybe that's because I looked like a guy that won't vote for the regime.
I'm registered to vote in Arizona and I've never had to show anything. When I got my AZ DL, I did have to present my valid DL from the state I relocated from and a bill from my then current address. Voter registration and Permanent Mail-In Voter List followed from that one appointment.

ETA: this was in Cochise county which is a lot redder than Maricopa. YMMV.
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1:16p, 5/20/24
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If you don't require proof of citizenship then citizenship is not actually a requirement to vote
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In reply to schmellba99 • 1:17p, 5/20/24
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schmellba99 said:
At this point - is there even any real advantage to being a US citizen, especially in the US?

I honestly can't think of a single item.


You get to pay taxes and keep auto insurance.
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In reply to Maroon Dawn • 1:19p, 5/20/24
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Maroon Dawn said:
If you don't require proof of citizenship then citizenship is not actually a requirement to vote


Just think if guns worked that way.

"You have to be over 18 and not a felon to purchase this, but we can't ask you for proof of either of those items…"
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