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Is this some new strategy media conglomerates are taking to try as a smear campaign?

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Breaking News!
CNN hates Trump 365/24/7.

eta: Trump = $ for CNN

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Question. Has anyone experienced this? I'm watching food Network on regular optimum cable box tonight and all of a sudden I have a cut in from CNN, detailing, more like sensationalizing aspects of the testimony from Stormy and painting Trump in a horrible light. I don't remember the exact verbage used, bc I was still focussed on trying to figure out how the hell I was watching CNN . Anyone else experienced this kind of a cut in? Is this some new strategy media conglomerates are taking to try as a smear campaign?

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CNN is buying ad/promo space on other channels to talk about the trial. Basically a 30 second spot to put their slant on what has transpired.

I have seen it twice now, and both times my first thought was that I had accidently switched channels.

jt2hunt said:

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Has this trial made anyone (on this forum) change their vote?

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Not in court and in real time because the judge threatened them.

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What do you mean no objections in court and in real time?

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ShawnTxAg said:

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Question. Has anyone experienced this? I'm watching food Network on regular optimum cable box tonight and all of a sudden I have a cut in from CNN, detailing, more like sensationalizing aspects of the testimony from Stormy and painting Trump in a horrible light. I don't remember the exact verbage used, bc I was still focussed on trying to figure out how the hell I was watching CNN . Anyone else experienced this kind of a cut in? Is this some new strategy media conglomerates are taking to try as a smear campaign?

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CNN is buying ad/promo space on other channels to talk about the trial. Basically a 30 second spot to put their slant on what has transpired.

I have seen it twice now, and both times my first thought was that I had accidently switched channels.

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Do they still claim they're unbiased "journalists?"

I can’t wait for Todd Blanche to cook Cohen with clips like this for the jury! https://t.co/MBUFVYIJEs

— Adam D. Brown (@aduanebrown) May 10, 2024

"Star witness."

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I can’t wait for Todd Blanche to cook Cohen with clips like this for the jury! https://t.co/MBUFVYIJEs

— Adam D. Brown (@aduanebrown) May 10, 2024

"Star witness."

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Do you have confidence the judge will allow that? I'm certainly not a lawyer but I don't.

Colangelo already told the jury to keep an open mind about his testimony. I have zero doubt Merchan will allow him to testify.

I am hopeful lightning will strike the courthouse when he puts his hand on the Bible and swears to tell the truth, but not entirely confident of God taking that specific act.

I'm talking about showing the clips. Not just testifying.

Ah, no. He won't allow much impeachable evidence at all against Cohen, just as there were limits about what could be asked of the old porn star about her story/claims from 20 years ago. Sorry, my mistake.

I'm ready for this dem railroading to be over. I hope the dems are proud of what they've turned this country into.

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Court sketch artist does not like Stormy.

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finally a picture of what she looks like from the inside.

She's ugly on the outside too! If Trump actually banged her it was incredibly stupid. He surrounds himself with much more beautiful and classy women. Melania is exponentially hotter than Stormy. No need to scrape the bottom of the barrel for a plastic porn skank.

CNN live blog is HERE

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Trump attorney Susan Necheles is resuming questioning.
Necheles begins by asking Madeleine Westerhout about 2016, while she was working for the Republican National Committee.
Westerhout confirms the RNC and the Trump campaign worked extremely closely together.

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Madeleine Westerhout is answering questions about how the Republican National Committee and Trump's campaign worked together on schedules.
"Am I correct that every day, the RNC and the campaign would jointly create a travel schedule," Trump attorney Susan Necheles asks.
"Whenever the president-elect was traveling, yes," Westerhout says.

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The jury is now seeing a list of Donald Trump's contacts provided by Rhona Graff, Trump's former longtime assistant.
Madeleine Westerhout says that the list of contacts included people he spoke to before he became president, as well as people he "might be interested in speaking to, to invite them to the White House or something."

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"There were many people on that list who never called the Oval Office?" defense attorney Susan Necheles asks.
"Yes many," Westerhout agrees.

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Necheles emphasizes these are people who Trump might contact before taking office. Westerhout confirms.

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Madeleine Westerhout confirms Trump often sent newspaper clippings to his contacts. Prosecutors have cited the fact he had sent a copy to Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg.
Westerhout laughs as she confirms she saw Trump send newspaper clippings to "everyone" but also says she doesn't recall him sending any other clippings to Allen Weisselberg specifically.
Trump attorney Susan Necheles asks if sending newspaper clippings to his contacts was something Trump did often.
"Yes, quite often," Westerhout says.

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Trump attorney Susan Necheles asked former White House aide Madeleine Westerhout whether she has any specific recollection of former Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg and Trump speaking during the first year that he was in office.

"That's correct, yes," Westerhout says.

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The first sidebar ended, and Trump lawyer Susan Necheles started asking Madeleine Westerhout about his travel schedules.
But they are now back at the bench after prosecutors are objecting over travel schedules.
Prosecutor Rebecca Mangold was given the chance to ask Westerhout about whether she had viewed these specific schedules. Westerhout said her lawyer had shown them to her this morning but she wasn't sure whether she had seen these specific schedules while she still worked at the RNC.

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From earlier, is that really Cohen advertising trump-to-jail shirts on ticktock this morning? If so, how is a witness at a trial allowed to do that against a defendant in the middle of the trial?

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I'm sure the lawyers will answer that question but it sure is going to bring up some fun questions in cross!

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From earlier, is that really Cohen advertising trump-to-jail shirts on ticktock this morning? If so, how is a witness at a trial allowed to do that against a defendant in the middle of the trial?

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why wouldn't a witness at a trial be allowed to do that? as long as that can be used to impeach his credibility, he's not breaking any law

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SwigAg11 said:

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From earlier, is that really Cohen advertising trump-to-jail shirts on ticktock this morning? If so, how is a witness at a trial allowed to do that against a defendant in the middle of the trial?

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why wouldn't a witness at a trial be allowed to do that? as long as that can be used to impeach his credibility, he's not breaking any law

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IANAL so I just assumed that something like that casts so much doubt on his credibility that there would be pause on allowing him to take the stand. However, now that I think about it, the jurors are the finders of facts, so the prosecution has to find a way to get past credibility issues.

Edit: I was unsure if there are certain actions a witness could take before/during a trial that would preclude him from testifying.

Would you want your witness doing this on the eve of testifying?

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SwigAg11 said:

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From earlier, is that really Cohen advertising trump-to-jail shirts on ticktock this morning? If so, how is a witness at a trial allowed to do that against a defendant in the middle of the trial?

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why wouldn't a witness at a trial be allowed to do that? as long as that can be used to impeach his credibility, he's not breaking any law

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IANAL so I just assumed that something like that casts so much doubt on his credibility that there would be pause on allowing him to take the stand. However, now that I think about it, the jurors are the finders of facts, so the prosecution has to find a way to get past credibility issues.

Edit: I was unsure if there are certain actions a witness could take before/during a trial that would preclude him from testifying.

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tbh, With Cohen's history and his actions now like that, I wouldn't call him as a witness as a prosecution...But I know he's their star and have to as weak as the case already is.

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Judge Juan Merchan is denying the introduction of the travel schedules into evidence.

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Trump attorney Susan Necheles is now moving onto a line of questioning about checks.
Madeleine Westerhout testified yesterday about how checks were sent from the Trump Organization to the White House employee.
"You walked into the White House and you don't know how President will get personal items?" Necheles asks now.
"No I did not," Westerhout says.

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Madeleine Westerhout is saying that at some point, she was told a post office box was set up for the president to receive personal items.
Trump attorney Susan Necheles asks whether they learned that was a "really slow way to receive things?"
"Yes," Westerhout says with a laugh.
There were times personal items were sent to the White House and Trump never received them, Westerhout confirms to Necheles.

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Trump attorney Susan Necheles is now going back to prosecutors' argument that some of the checks Trump handled were sent to employees' personal addresses
"That's what this whole testimony about FedEx packages was about, right? It was a way items could be sent to you, and you could get them promptly to President Trump," Necheles asks, placing emphasis on the word promptly.
"That's right," Madeleine Westerhout says.
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"He was a person who would multitask?" Trump attorney Susan Necheles asks about the former president.

"Definitely," Madeleine Westerhout says.

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Trump attorney Susan Necheles is asking about Trump's habits on signing and reviewing documents.
She's digging into whether he was signing hundreds of documents a day. "Not every day, but sometimes," Westerhout says.

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"Would you see him signing things without reviewing them," Necheles asks.
"Yes," Madeleine Westerhout says.

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Westerhout confirms that Trump would sign checks while doing other things, like sometimes while he was on the phone or meeting with others.

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SwigAg11 said:

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From earlier, is that really Cohen advertising trump-to-jail shirts on ticktock this morning? If so, how is a witness at a trial allowed to do that against a defendant in the middle of the trial?

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why wouldn't a witness at a trial be allowed to do that? as long as that can be used to impeach his credibility, he's not breaking any law

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The bigger issue to me is how closely is Cohen following th trial in violation of the exclusionary rule?

jt2hunt said:

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Would you want your witness doing this on the eve of testifying?

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would anyone?

i suspect the new york DA office is pulling their hair out as their "star" witness, who they knew would lots of credibility issues, is going to me much much worse than they ever could have expected

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BMX Bandit said:

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SwigAg11 said:

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From earlier, is that really Cohen advertising trump-to-jail shirts on ticktock this morning? If so, how is a witness at a trial allowed to do that against a defendant in the middle of the trial?

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why wouldn't a witness at a trial be allowed to do that? as long as that can be used to impeach his credibility, he's not breaking any law

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The bigger issue to me is how closely is Cohen following th trial in violation of the exclusionary rule?

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Are certain witnesses, like expert witnesses, allowed to follow the trial?

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Donald Trump's attorney Susan Necheles is now asking about an invoice from the Winged Foot Golf Club, where longtime assistant Rhona Graff had asked for Madeleine Westerhout's help in whether to suspend or pay for his membership while he was president.
"He answered one word, just pay," Necheles says. "Boom, it was off his desk."
"Yes," Westerhout says.

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I am not understanding the prosecution's obsession with his membership at Winged Foot? That's a private club established in the 20s in upper NY state that the state made a big point about on direct so defense is coming back to it.

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jt2hunt said:

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Would you want your witness doing this on the eve of testifying?

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would anyone?

i suspect the new york DA office is pulling their hair out as their "star" witness, who they knew would lots of credibility issues, is going to me much much worse than they ever could have expected

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I guess the bigger question is if the judge will let the defense bring the ticktock/twitter posts into evidence during cross?

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SwigAg11 said:

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From earlier, is that really Cohen advertising trump-to-jail shirts on ticktock this morning? If so, how is a witness at a trial allowed to do that against a defendant in the middle of the trial?

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why wouldn't a witness at a trial be allowed to do that? as long as that can be used to impeach his credibility, he's not breaking any law

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The bigger issue to me is how closely is Cohen following th trial in violation of the exclusionary rule?

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Are certain witnesses, like expert witnesses, allowed to follow the trial?

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Expert witnesses if approved in advance can be present in the courtroom.

All other witnesses are instructed not to watch or follow the trial prior to their testimony and release.

Thank you!

with some exceptions for spouse, experts, etc., the texas rule is "the witnesses on both sides shall be sworn and removed out of the courtroom to some place where they cannot hear the testimony as delivered by any other witness in the cause"

I have never had a case that got play-by-play media coverage (doubt anyone here has), so I've never had to think about if "cannot hear the testimony as delivered" would include reading a story or blog about it.

interesting question though. trump's lawyers may bring this up and move to exclude him from testifying.


whether this judge lets the Trump lawyers play the actual tiktock video is up in the air, but they will be allowed to ask about them. for example, if they ask "are you selling a shirt that says put trump in jail on tik tok?" and cohen says "yes" then there is really no need to show the actual video