*** Official Trump Hush Money Trial Thread ***

605,092 Views | 6827 Replies | Last: 5 hrs ago by BMX Bandit
RogerFurlong
How long do you want to ignore this user?
aggiehawg said:

Quote:

Prosecutor Rebecca Mangold has Madeleine Westerhout read a handwritten note Rhona Graff wrote on an invoice for the Winged Foot Golf Club asking if he wanted her to look into suspending the membership for 4 to 8 years.
Written in black sharpie: "Pay--" At the bottom, "ASAP," which is underlined in sharpie next to Trump's "short signature," Westerhout says.
This was included in the stack of checks so he individually approved the invoice, Mangold confirms with Westerhout.

Suspend a membership to Winged Foot? He must have freaked out when that question was asked.
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Quote:

Is it your opinion that a sexual encounter did or did not occur?
I don't think it did. But if she was in his hotel suite for two hours it was her word against his. But that raises another question I had, Trump's valet usually travelled with him from what I understand. And hewould likely have been somewhere inside the suite at some point.
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Quote:

"We ask that President Trump be allowed to respond publicly to what happened in court the past day and a half," defense attorney Todd Blanche says to Judge Juan Merchan.
He's specifically asking for Trump to be permitted to comment on Stormy Daniels' testimony and her story, in part to respond to media coverage.
"The press reporting over the past 24 hours about the current version of the story that we believe is completely false," Blanche says. "It is significant."
It's Trump now "having to not respond to this new version of events that now deals very deeply with a very different issue than a sexual event that took place in 2006," Blanche adds.
Remember: Judge Merchan has repeatedly found Trump in contempt of court for violating a gag order blocking the defendant from speaking out about potential witnesses, and most people in or associated with the court or the New York district attorney's office.
On Monday, Merchan fined Trump $1,000 for the latest violation and ordered he pay the fine by close of business Friday. Last week, the judge fined Trump $9,000 for nine previous violations of the judge's gag order.
Quote:

In making his argument, Todd Blanche says Donald Trump will be "asked repeatedly over the next week or two about these new accusations of consent and of what happened that night."

"He is not allowed to say, 'I did not do that,'" for voters who are seeing this coverage, the attorney argues.
Quote:

Speaking for the prosecution, Chris Conroy is saying that "it seems as though the other side almost lives in an alternate reality."
"If somebody wants to respond to something said in this room, that can happen in this room. It's not supposed to happen out there," Conroy says.
Conroy says there are people saying things "with the defendant in mind. I'm not in the position to say at his direction or anything close to that."
Jerk.
Quote:

Prosecutor Chris Conroy, during the discussion about the exception to the gag order, noted a time when Stormy Daniels' home address was displayed accidentally on a screen during her testimony. "You could see the fear in her eyes."
As Conroy is speaking, Trump is writing a note on a Post-it.
He passed it to Blanche when he finished.
Quote:

Prosecutor Chris Conroy says there have been "very real consequences for witnesses." He said there have been custodial witnesses who've expressed fear about their safety.
Quote:

"The fact that witnesses are brave enough to come in here under subpoena … shouldn't expose them to this defendant's barrage of threats that will put them and potentially their families in danger," Conroy says.
Modifying the gag order mid-trial would "signal to future witnesses that they could be at risk as well," he argues.
Quote:

Prosecutor Chris Conroy is citing Trump's own words from his book shown in court earlier today that Trump believes in intimidating enemies.

"When you are wronged go after those people because it is a good feeling and because other people will see you doing it. Getting even is not always a personal thing. It's just part of doing business."
Quote:

rump attorney Todd Blanche responds to the prosecution's argument about the gag order exception by saying "everything you've just heard is different in kind from our request."
Quote:

"You have Ms. Daniels, who came in yesterday and today and was allowed to talk about a completely different version of events," Blanche argues.
Judge Juan Merchan stops him and asks what he's specifically referring to.
Blanche reads Daniels' testimony about the room spinning when she was with Trump in his hotel room
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Of course.
Quote:

Judge Juan Merchan denies the defense's motion to modify the gag order so Trump can talk about Stormy Daniels
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Quote:

Judge Juan Merchan appears to be pushing back on the Trump team's argument in favor of the former president being allowed to speak publicly about Stormy Daniels' testimony.
Quote:

"My concern is not just the protection of Ms. Daniels, or a witness who has already testified," Merchan says. "My concern is protecting the integrity of the proceedings."
The judge said witnesses who have not yet testified would watch Trump's comments about Daniels if they were permitted, and that could influence their own testimony.
Which trial is he watching?
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Quote:

After the judge denied the motion to modify the gag order, we are moving to the defense's mistrial motion.

Todd Blanche renews Donald Trump's motion for a mistrial saying now that the jury has heard Story Daniels' testimony there's no way this trial should go forward.
Not gonna happen.
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Quote:

Trump attorney Todd Blanche argues that Stormy Daniels has changed her story by suggesting that this "completely made-up encounter with President Trump may not have been consensual."

The questioning by prosecutor Susan Hoffinger got "way beyond the mere fact that it happened," Blanche says.
Tramp96
How long do you want to ignore this user?
aggiehawg said:

Quote:

Jurors are being shown the contact list Rhona Graff provided to Madeleine Westerhout, with the phone numbers redacted.
Here's who is on the list:
Quote:

David Pecker, Bill O'Reilly, Charles Kushner, Matt Calamari, Jack Nicklaus, Tiffany Trump, Joe Scarborough, Nelson Peltz, Phil Ruffin, Lou Rinaldi, Jeanine Pirro, Ike Perlmutter, Robert Trump, Maryanne Trump Barry, Allen Weisselberg, Steve Wynn, Serena Williams, Ari Emanuel, David Friedman, Jerry Falwell, Sean Hannity, Tom Barrack, Tom Brady, Pam Bondi.

Quote:

As the court reviews a list of Trump's most regular contacts that was sent to former assistant Madeleine Westerhout during the transition to the White House, prosecutor Rebecca Mangold has zeroed in on two key names.
Ex-National Enquirer publisher David Pecker and former Trump attorney Michael Cohen both appear on the list, and are pivotal players in the alleged hush money scheme as laid out by the prosecution.
Mangold asks Westerhout whether Cohen and Trump had a close relationship.
"At that time, yes," she says.
Quote:

The jury is now being shown an email dated February 5, 2017. It's from Madeline Westerhout to Michael Cohen, and it's about a meeting.
"We're confirmed for 4:30 pm on Wednesday," the email reads.
In the email, Westerhout asked Cohen for details he needs to provide to get clearance from Secret Service into the White House, including his social security number, date of birth and city and state of residence.
"Mr. Cohen was coming in to meet with the president," she says about why she sent that email, though she also said she doesn't remember the meeting specifically.
Some background on this: Prosecutors allege Cohen and Trump worked out the reimbursement at a February meeting in the Oval office.


Joe effin Scarborough? WTF?

Is this a keep your enemies closer thing or what?
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Quote:

Joe effin Scarborough? WTF?

Is this a keep your enemies closer thing or what?
Remember the timing. Trump was on with Joe and Mika very often during the 2016 campaign. They were not perceived to be his enemies back then.
MarkTwain
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Reversible errors are approaching triple digits
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Quote:

Trump attorney Todd Blanche cites the spanking anecdote from Stormy Daniels in arguing for a mistrial.
"How that's relevant to why we're here especially when you weigh it with the prejudicial nature."
He adds, again referring to the spanking anecdote:
"It almost defies belief that we're here about a records case and the government is asking about an incident that happened in 2006," Blanche says.
"This is not a case about sex" and not about whether the sexual encounter happened something Blanche notes Trump continues to deny.
Quote:

Donald Trump's legal team worked during the off day yesterday on their argument for a new motion for a mistrial, which attorney Todd Blanche is making now, CNN's Kaitlin Collins reports.
Science Denier
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
aggiehawg said:

Quote:

Karen McDougal will not be testifying, according to defense attorney Todd Blanche.

'The People informed me they no longer intend to call Ms McDougal," he says.
LOL.
Do you think that was the defense's motion?

Did the judge finally allow one objection by the defense to stick?

Or, did the prosecution just change their mind.
LOL OLD
MarkTwain
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Prosecutor is no longer going to call McDougal hmmm I wonder why? Daniels was irrelevant enough why stop now
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
Tramp96
How long do you want to ignore this user?
EDIT: nevermind, stupid question.

Excuse: I'm a Tech grad.
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Quote:

Reading another line of testimony, Todd Blanche notes that Stormy Daniels said "there was an imbalance of power for sure" when referring to her allegation of a sexual encounter with Donald Trump.

Blanche says the jury has heard about a power dynamic and "none of that information goes to the motive of anybody in this case including President Trump."
Quote:

Trump attorney Todd Blanche is continuing to suggest that prosecutors asked questions they shouldn't have during Stormy Daniels' testimony, such as what Daniels' reaction was to seeing Trump when she left his bathroom before their alleged sexual encounter.
"It's not relevant and it shouldn't have been asked," Blanche says.
"That is a description that is extremely prejudicial," the Trump attorney argues, referring to questions intended to sway the jury's emotions against a defendant.
The descriptions didn't have anything to do with an arrangement involving Michael Cohen and the National Enquirer, which is the core issue at hand, Blanche argues.
Blanche argues that prosecutors "didn't abide by the court's rules" in their line of questioning.
He also points to the question about what their relative heights were.
"How is that relevant to that case? That is so prejudicial," he argues.
Quote:

Trump attorney Todd Blanche is saying that Judge Juan Merchan said they did not need to know the details of the alleged sexual encounter between Stormy Daniels and Donald Trump, but "the people still asked."
"There was no basis for the government to ask that question," Blanche argues.
"The government wouldn't stop," Blanche says. "We didn't know these questions were coming."
"We were sitting here hearing that for the first time on the witness stand yesterday," Blanche says.
Quote:

Judge Juan Merchan pushes back at the defense's arguments about anecdotes provided by Stormy Daniels during her testimony.

He is saying he sustained objections to many of the accounts that Trump attorney Todd Blanche now cites in his mistrial motion.
Gee judge, if you sustained their objection how did it get into the record?
SwigAg11
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Can anything be inferred about the prosecution no longer calling McDougal?
4stringAg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Joke of a trial and extremely incompetent biased judge.
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Quote:

Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass responds to the defense team's motion for a mistrial by saying most of the allegations from Trump's lawyers are "flat out untrue."
"Starting with the fact that it's a new account this is not a new account," Steinglass says.
"The claim of ambush is just nonsense," Steinglass adds. "The claim of changing her story is also extraordinarily untrue."
"There may be details stated in one form but not in another form," Steinglass says, but he says that's not unexpected.
MarkTwain
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Tramp96 said:

So what is the significance of not calling McDougal?


To avoid another Daniels fiasco and damage control to all the prejudicial nonsense they already done.
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
SwigAg11 said:

Can anything be inferred about the prosecution no longer calling McDougal?
That they realize they made a big mistake with calling Daniels. Were not going to make a second mistake.
Tramp96
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Foreverconservative said:

Tramp96 said:

So what is the significance of not calling McDougal?


To avoid another Daniels fiasco and damage control to all the prejudicial nonsense they already done.
Yeah, I realized too late it was a stupid question on my part.
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Quote:

Addressing the defense's allegations of inconsistencies in Stormy Daniels' story, prosecutor Joshua Steinglass is arguing that Trump lawyer Susan Necheles "certainly probed them in her very thorough though somewhat misleading questioning."
"The fact of the matter is, Ms. Necheles left a very misleading impression" that Daniels' story had become "radically different" from what she said in the "60 Minutes" interview with Anderson Cooper in 2018.
That was what your redirect was for, you idiot.
MarkTwain
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Tramp96 said:

Foreverconservative said:

Tramp96 said:

So what is the significance of not calling McDougal?


To avoid another Daniels fiasco and damage control to all the prejudicial nonsense they already done.
Yeah, I realized too late it was a stupid question on my part.


Not really a stupid question actually
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
Science Denier
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Quote:

Trump attorney Todd Blanche cites the spanking anecdote from Stormy Daniels in arguing for a mistrial.
"How that's relevant to why we're here especially when you weigh it with the prejudicial nature."
He adds, again referring to the spanking anecdote:
"It almost defies belief that we're here about a records case and the government is asking about an incident that happened in 2006," Blanche says.
"This is not a case about sex" and not about whether the sexual encounter happened something Blanche notes Trump continues to deny.
Wasn't there a higher court ruling that dismissed a case because of that same scenario? Did the prosecution bring up that case in their motion?
LOL OLD
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Quote:

Do you think that was the defense's motion?

Did the judge finally allow one objection by the defense to stick?

Or, did the prosecution just change their mind.
State withdrew her from their witness list so it was their decision.
SwigAg11
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Science Denier said:

Quote:

Trump attorney Todd Blanche cites the spanking anecdote from Stormy Daniels in arguing for a mistrial.
"How that's relevant to why we're here especially when you weigh it with the prejudicial nature."
He adds, again referring to the spanking anecdote:
"It almost defies belief that we're here about a records case and the government is asking about an incident that happened in 2006," Blanche says.
"This is not a case about sex" and not about whether the sexual encounter happened something Blanche notes Trump continues to deny.
Wasn't there a higher court ruling that dismissed a case because of that same scenario? Did the prosecution bring up that case in their motion?


The Weinstein case that was just overturned on appeal. I believe the defense already brought it up and the judge ignored it (or maybe said it doesn't apply?).
MarkTwain
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Science Denier said:

Quote:

Trump attorney Todd Blanche cites the spanking anecdote from Stormy Daniels in arguing for a mistrial.
"How that's relevant to why we're here especially when you weigh it with the prejudicial nature."
He adds, again referring to the spanking anecdote:
"It almost defies belief that we're here about a records case and the government is asking about an incident that happened in 2006," Blanche says.
"This is not a case about sex" and not about whether the sexual encounter happened something Blanche notes Trump continues to deny.
Wasn't there a higher court ruling that dismissed a case because of that same scenario? Did the prosecution bring up that case in their motion?



Harvey Weinstein
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
Sharpshooter
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
aggiehawg said:

Quote:

Do you think that was the defense's motion?

Did the judge finally allow one objection by the defense to stick?

Or, did the prosecution just change their mind.
State withdrew her from their witness list so it was their decision.
Kind'a funny how the State will tell Defense who will NOT testify, but, won't tell Defense who is going to testify until the day before. Not relevant, just found it funny.
SwigAg11
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Not just day before. I believe defense was told day of about Daniels.
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Quote:

Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass says Stormy Daniels' testimony detailing the conversation and experience with Donald Trump before and after the alleged sexual encounter is corroborative. "
"Those are the kinds of details that make her account more credible."
Trump is leaning back in his chair with his eyes closed.
Quote:

Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass says there were about eight questions about the actual sexual encounter between Donald Trump and Stormy Daniels.
He argues the prosecution did not go into detail about the sexual encounter.
Quote:

"There's no opportunity for long explanations about it," he says, and the questions were mostly yes or no responses.

Quote:

Details about the alleged sexual encounter between Stormy Daniels and Donald Trump "were the motivation" for Trump to keep the story quiet in 2016, prosecutor Joshua Steinglass argues.

"The details are essential to give the jury the tools they need to analyze her credibility," Steinglass says, arguing that Trump attorney Susan Necheles was "cherry-picking" the details she thought were inconsistent and ignoring where Daniels has been consistent.
That is a mistake by Steinglass, in my view He has admitted that they wanted her to go into the salacious details. And when Merchan opened the door to some dtails, they rushed headlong through it. Increases the chances of reversible error.
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
But wait it gets worse!

Quote:

Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass says there were "very salacious details" that were purposely omitted from Daniels' account, saying he's willing to make a sealing filing with those details if necessary.
Holy s***! Are you serious?
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
This is all on the record. Prosecutor just admitted they coached Danels extensively.

Look what every trial attorney claims when one of their witnesses go off of the rails like Daniels did is to deny they knew in advance that that would happen. They are usually lying of course but they at least make the effort.
Science Denier
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
SwigAg11 said:

Science Denier said:

Quote:

Trump attorney Todd Blanche cites the spanking anecdote from Stormy Daniels in arguing for a mistrial.
"How that's relevant to why we're here especially when you weigh it with the prejudicial nature."
He adds, again referring to the spanking anecdote:
"It almost defies belief that we're here about a records case and the government is asking about an incident that happened in 2006," Blanche says.
"This is not a case about sex" and not about whether the sexual encounter happened something Blanche notes Trump continues to deny.
Wasn't there a higher court ruling that dismissed a case because of that same scenario? Did the prosecution bring up that case in their motion?


The Weinstein case that was just overturned on appeal. I believe the defense already brought it up and the judge ignored it (or maybe said it doesn't apply?).
Did they bring it up again? I mean, this is very specific testimony that is in no way relevant to the case. Textbook definition of what was the basis for the Weinstein case being overturned.

No?
LOL OLD
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Quote:

Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass confirms Karen McDougal the model and actress who has said she was also paid to keep quiet about an affair with Trump will not be called to take the stand.

"She was on our witness list, but we have never indicated an actual intention to call her," he says.
That's a lie. They spent two days with Pecker and Davidson talking about McDougal. Why do that if she was never going to be called?
Sharpshooter
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Trump just called the Judge corrupt.
First Page Last Page
Page 67 of 196
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.