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pdc093 said:

Court sketch artist......lulz


Looks more like Linda Tripp than Stormy.
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Daniels wearing fake glasses in court to try and appear intelligent
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
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Foreverconservative said:

Daniels wearing fake glasses in court to try and appear intelligent
Think I saw that video on a website, that I can no longer accuses because of Texas laws.
The adults are back in charge.
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Gouveia live now.

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Ag with kids said:

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Stormy Daniels says she has not yet paid all of the legal fees the courts say she owed Trump.
She says she has not paid them because she did not have the means and she did not think it was fair.

Wait, she had her best year ever in 2016 and by 2018 has no money again?
That woman's life has been littered with bad choices.

Poor girl everything blows up in her face.

Intentional phrasing.
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Re: "Daniels wearing fake glasses in court to try and appear intelligent"

Prob. borrowed those glasses from LeBron James or Seth Rogan.
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I feel like the prosecution must have been expecting one of the first two witnesses to take longer, or else they thought they would be able to spend longer exploring "the night" with Stormy. There's no way their plan was to let the defense have a crack at her before the day off. Surely, they were planning on ending the day with their questioning, but somehow botched that.
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Query: prosecution opened the door to her being a filthy hoor as some sort of means for establishing mens rea. Can't the defense now go through every last hoorish act in her life to rebut and make the case that sort of behavior correlates with her, not Trump?
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AustinAg2K said:

I feel like the prosecution must have been expecting one of the first two witnesses to take longer, or else they thought they would be able to spend longer exploring "the night" with Stormy. There's no way their plan was to let the defense have a crack at her before the day off. Surely, they were planning on ending the day with their questioning, but somehow botched that.
it's worse than that for the prosecution. They expected her to be completely "done" and excused today so they could let the jury stew in their hatred for Trump over the mid week break and come back to whatever next witness. But defense is mid cross. So we start Thursday morning with stormy on cross with a defense who's had plenty of prep time to re-load and really give her a pounding.
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ThunderCougarFalconBird said:

Query: prosecution opened the door to her being a filthy hoor as some sort of means for establishing mens rea. Can't the defense now go through every last hoorish act in her life to rebut and make the case that sort of behavior correlates with her, not Trump?
In theory, yes. Practically with this judge? Not a chance in hell.

BTW, watching Gouveia's stream, Stormy said when she came out of the bedroom and "found Trump on the bed that she "felt drugged." Defense went bonkers, of course.

So the script she was given by the prosecution really was trying to use her for a Harvey Weinstein/Bill Cosby analogies to dove tail into the E. Jean Carroll crap. Trump is a sexual predator! REEEEEE!
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So we start Thursday morning with stormy on cross with a defense who's had plenty of prep time to re-load and really give her a pounding.
No pun intended, of course.
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I guess since the judge let the prosecution go wherever they want, they can now say the underlying crime is sexual assault?
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SwigAg11 said:

I guess since the judge let the prosecution go wherever they want, they can now say the underlying crime is sexual assault?


I almost expect the prosecution closing argument to be "look, we don't have to prove the underlying crime he committed, and it could be any number of the theories we have presented to you, but we know beyond any reasonable doubt that he entered these payments as proof to cover up that crime. There is no other reason a person identifies payment to his lawyer as "legal expenses."" And the dumbass dems in new York on the jury would convict. And the dumbasses with TDS would think justice was served.
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Foreverconservative said:

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she couldn't even remember how her clothes magically came off
'It just happened' okay.





After 499 porn films it's easy to say it was just an involuntary reflex I guess
Probably happened at fancy restaurants all the time:

"Good evening Madame, may I take your coat?"

"Please ma'am, you are going to have to put your clothes back on, I was just asking about your coat."

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I wouldn't mind being spanked by Stormy. No reason to hold that against DT.
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ThunderCougarFalconBird said:

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Dear Lord I hope Trump walks outside the courtroom and starts talking to the camera's in short order.
No. She's still on the stand. Keep her name out of his mouth would be better.
this. And if I'm defense counsel, I do literally anything I can to get to the end of the day without passing the witness. Unfortunate assignment #1 for the day off is for an associate or two to watch every last smut film she's starred in from the moment the plumber knocks on the door until she's covered in his cock snot to find the one that matches the experience she allegedly had with Trump and then use it as a demonstrative first thing Thursday morning.


Fine! I'll lower my billing rate to $250 to do this!
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aggiehawg said:

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So we start Thursday morning with stormy on cross with a defense who's had plenty of prep time to re-load and really give her a pounding.
No pun intended, of course.
none at all. But given the defense has a whole day to prep for the balance of her cross, I suspect she'll be reduced to her knees waiting for a huge money shot some time Thursday at the end.
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Gabster43213 said:

I wouldn't mind being spanked by Stormy. No reason to hold that against DT.
I'd double-bag your underpants.
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none at all. But given the defense has a whole day to prep for the balance of her cross, I suspect she'll be reduced to her knees waiting for a huge money shoot some time Thursday.
Aaaaand another one.
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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

Foreverconservative said:

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she couldn't even remember how her clothes magically came off
'It just happened' okay.





After 499 porn films it's easy to say it was just an involuntary reflex I guess
Probably happened at fancy restaurants all the time:

"Good evening Madame, may I take your coat?"

"Please ma'am, you are going to have to put your clothes back on, I was just asking about your coat."
499? Those are Brandi Maxxx numbers.

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A few love taps is a great way to end the day !
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Out of curiosity, to help the jurors remember and keep track of testimony, are lawyers allowed to retread some of what was discussed from a previous day if direct/cross has to get split across multiple days?
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SwigAg11 said:

Out of curiosity, to help the jurors remember and keep track of testimony, are lawyers allowed to retread some of what was discussed from a previous day if direct/cross has to get split across multiple days?
Yes. Cross has a bit more freedom to ask leading questions though in which to use previous testimony.
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aggiehawg said:

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none at all. But given the defense has a whole day to prep for the balance of her cross, I suspect she'll be reduced to her knees waiting for a huge money shoot some time Thursday.
Aaaaand another one.
you missed the money shot
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ThunderCougarFalconBird said:

aggiehawg said:

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none at all. But given the defense has a whole day to prep for the balance of her cross, I suspect she'll be reduced to her knees waiting for a huge money shoot some time Thursday.
Aaaaand another one.
you missed the money shot
And I am glad that I did.

The Hubs and married just a year or so after Boogie Nights premiered. Honeymoon in Jamaica. Suite was groundfloor on the beach. There was a lor of porn actors and actresses, producers, directors, etc. staying in the same hotel.

ETA: They were a PITA to the point The Hubs yelled at them to go away from our suite because we were on our honeymoon.
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aggiehawg said:

SwigAg11 said:

Out of curiosity, to help the jurors remember and keep track of testimony, are lawyers allowed to retread some of what was discussed from a previous day if direct/cross has to get split across multiple days?
Yes. Cross has a bit more freedom to ask leading questions though in which to use previous testimony.
Thank you! It would not shock me with a day of preparation under them if the defense effectively rehashes on Thursday most of what was already discussed during cross today.
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aggiehawg said:

pdc093 said:

Court sketch artist......lulz


Looks more like Linda Tripp than Stormy.
Liz Cheney
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aggiehawg said:

ThunderCougarFalconBird said:

aggiehawg said:

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none at all. But given the defense has a whole day to prep for the balance of her cross, I suspect she'll be reduced to her knees waiting for a huge money shoot some time Thursday.
Aaaaand another one.
you missed the money shot
And I am glad that I did.

The Hubs and married just a year or so after Boogie Nights premiered. Honeymoon in Jamaica. Suite was groundfloor on the beach. There was a lor of porn actors and actresses, producers, directors, etc. staying in the same hotel.

ETA: They were a PITA to the point The Hubs yelled at them to go away from our suite because we were on our honeymoon.

Hey (wo)man, you have live action pornos to watch just by opening the curtains. People pay tens of dollars to watch that
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aggiejayrod said:

aggiehawg said:

ThunderCougarFalconBird said:

aggiehawg said:

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none at all. But given the defense has a whole day to prep for the balance of her cross, I suspect she'll be reduced to her knees waiting for a huge money shoot some time Thursday.
Aaaaand another one.
you missed the money shot
And I am glad that I did.

The Hubs and married just a year or so after Boogie Nights premiered. Honeymoon in Jamaica. Suite was groundfloor on the beach. There was a lor of porn actors and actresses, producers, directors, etc. staying in the same hotel.

ETA: They were a PITA to the point The Hubs yelled at them to go away from our suite because we were on our honeymoon.

Hey (wo)man, you have live action pornos to watch just by opening the curtains. People pay tens of dollars to watch that
It was the 70s...they paid ones of dollars...
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Is it a fact that the defense had no notice of them putting Stormy on the stand?

Seems crazy that's being allowed in a case like this.

That's more telling of how this thing is gonna go than anything we've seen this far.
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The prosecution likely knew it had some potential problems with Stormy a witness, but this seems to have gone as bad as possible for them.

Train wreck witness. She (and prosecution) were more focused on animosity and trying to embarrass Trump.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Is it a fact that the defense had no notice of them putting Stormy on the stand?

Seems crazy that's being allowed in a case like this.

That's more telling of how this thing is gonna go than anything we've seen this far.
Correct. The defense was informed morning of that Stormy was going to be called yesterday.
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SwigAg11 said:

I guess since the judge let the prosecution go wherever they want, they can now say the underlying crime is sexual assault?
I get that they were not required to state the underlying crime ahead of time, but can they just declare Trump guilty of another crime without ever charging or adjudicating it such that they can escalate statute-limited misdemeanors to felonies and get a felony conviction?

Seems like you should have to charge and get a guilty verdict on the underlying crime before using it for other purposes.
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Sure, why not. They already claim he is a time traveler.
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