Surprised no one else has started this.

Jury selection begins today.

Hopefully Secret Service has put some thought into how to protect the President if he's incarcerated.

And if Trump wins the election, can he serve as president from prison?

So of course the trial isn't about paying hush money - it's about using campaign money for hush money and falsifying records documenting that.

Can you imagine being in this jury pool? My employer pays us for jury duty so I'd be angling like a big dog to get on this jury so I could hang it.

Motion for Judge Merchan to recuse himself denied.

Amazing what we justify because it is convenient for our political views...

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Hopefully Secret Service has put some thought into how to protect the President if he's incarcerated.

And if Trump wins the election, can he serve as president from prison?

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Another poster obsessed with Trump going to jail!

Let me explain to you what is never going to happen: Trump going behind bars.

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one thing we can all agree on: trump cheated on his pregnant wife with a p*** star

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And the party of "family values" sees nothing wrong with it. Then again, even if he shot someone on fifth Avenue he wouldn't lose one of them, so what's the big deal about this.

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one thing we can all agree on: trump cheated on his pregnant wife with a p*** star

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" Damn straight. I always wanted to do that, man. And I think if I were a millionaire I could hook that up, too; 'cause chicks dig dudes with money."

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And if Trump wins the election, can he serve as president from prison?

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Yes, though that will never happen.

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Hopefully Secret Service has put some thought into how to protect the President if he's incarcerated.

And if Trump wins the election, can he serve as president from prison?

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Another poster obsessed with Trump going to jail!

Let me explain to you what is never going to happen: Trump going behind bars.

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Never say never.

I'm saying never.

You will have to stick to Viagra, because you ain't going to see Trump behind bars. Sorry!

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Hopefully Secret Service has put some thought into how to protect the President if he's incarcerated.

And if Trump wins the election, can he serve as president from prison?

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Another poster obsessed with Trump going to jail!

Let me explain to you what is never going to happen: Trump going behind bars.

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Democrats hate Trump more than Randolph Duke hates A&M so I could certainly see it

Judge Merchan would loveee to be a hero to the resistance

In Trump's defense, not really a fan of Stormy, but holy smokes.

Would.

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And if Trump wins the election, can he serve as president from prison?

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Give him time to bring cases against all former presidents now that he's been shown how to do it.

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I'm saying never.

You will have to stick to Viagra, because you ain't going to see Trump behind bars. Sorry!

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Not on these bogus charges which are the subject of this thread, at least.

Not to derail but with the Fani Willis case falling apart and the problems Smith is having with Judge Cannon in Florida and Smith's DC case on appeal to SCOTUS on immunity issues, jail time is unlikely in those.

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one thing we can all agree on: trump cheated on his pregnant wife with a p*** star

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So naturally charge him with a felony. Right?

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Nope 34! GDamnit.

eta: corrected to the number of felonies charged
https://manhattanda.org/district-attorney-bragg-announces-34-count-felony-indictment-of-former-president-donald-j-trump/

So if your vote will be for the lesser of two evils, which is worse, Stormy Daniels or Ashley's diary?

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Old McDonald said:

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one thing we can all agree on: trump cheated on his pregnant wife with a p*** star

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Can we agree that many politicians would do that and that only Trump is being put through this BS?

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It seems like John Edwards had a criminal trial for something similar (cheating, use of campaign funds to keep it quiet, etc.) in 2012.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/04/why-the-john-edwards-trial-is-a-bigger-deal-than-you-think/255749/

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Campaign finance rules have changed markedly since 2008 -- making this, the only case of its kind, one to watch.

Jury selection in the federal criminal trial of John Edwards begins Thursday April 12th in a Greensboro, N.C., courtroom. As the world now knows, Edwards chose to cheat on his cancer-stricken wife during his 2008 presidential run. Two wealthy political supporters then spent hundreds of thousands of dollars supporting Edwards's mistress as part of a failed effort to keep the affair quiet. Prosecutors decided that the financial support constituted unreported, excessive and thus illegal campaign donations, and indicted Edwards for his role in the arrangement.

The story of Edwards and his paramour Rielle Hunter has been told by former campaign aide Andrew Young in excruciating detail in his book The Politician: An Insider's Account of John Edwards's Pursuit of the Presidency and the Scandal That Brought Him Down. The story that has not been detailed is why the sex scandal turned into a federal case, whether it should have, and how Edwards -- the famed trial lawyer -- has bungled the run up to his own trial.
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Edit - Should have read the thread before posting, as AH already noted it.

Like I said in a previous thread this might be the dumbest thing ever.

How was Trump supposed to legally expense it? Was he supposed to expense it as "Hush money- Stormy Daniels" to be in compliance with New York law?

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Old McDonald said:

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one thing we can all agree on: trump cheated on his pregnant wife with a p*** star

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And the party of "family values" sees nothing wrong with it. Then again, even if he shot someone on fifth Avenue he wouldn't lose one of them, so what's the big deal about this.

So, the family values guy walks into the voting booth. He has a choice between one guy who cheats on his wife, and really has an ahole personality, but loves America and gave us good economy and didnt let our enemies walk all over us as country. The other guy showers with his daughter, is an ahole as well, uses influence to keep son out of jail, cocaine is found in White House and gets rich while the country sucks economically and lets countries walk all over America and doesnt know what day of the week it is.

So, pray tell-- who is the most hypocritical voter?

Politicians have always been scoundrels-- prove me wrong.

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How was Trump supposed to legally expense it? Was he supposed to expense it as "Hush money- Stormy Daniels" to be in compliance with New York law?

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Funny, but not quite.

He was supposed to categorize it as "Payment for Non-Disclosure Agreement" or "Settlement" or something similar, not as a payment for Cohen's legal fees.

At best that should be misdemeanor and would be against anyone else. Tying this to federal statute to make it a felony is absurd on several levels.

The Edwards case is interesting due to the fact that there was a very direct connection between Bunny Mellon as an Edwards donor, actually did pay Rielle over a million dollars in support for her and the baby during the course of the campaign. Jury acquitted him anyway. And the FEC did fine the Edwards campaign over it.

None of those facts are present here. Both the FEC and DOJ thoroughly reviewed these facts and found no violation. So if the predicate "crime" upon which the felony charges rest is not there, then there is no crime on these facts.

The second problem is the credibility of a serial perjurer as the star witness, in Michael Cohen. Even Stormy has prior inconcistent statements on whether an affair happened or not. Then there's Avenatti who has some harsh words about both Cohen and Stormy and that he doesn't think Trump can get a fair trial in Manhattan.