I guess his hypocrisy has some limitsaggiehawg said:
Rare display of sanity from Merchan.Quote:
Judge Juan Merchan sides with the defense and says he will not allow Trump's interview in 1999 about campaign finance into evidence.
He says trying to draw an inference to what he knew in 2015 or 2017 is a step too far.
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That's somewhat encouraging that Merchan allowed the question, I guess.Quote:
Trump attorney Todd Blanche starts his cross-examination by asking Georgia Longstreet if she has continued to review social media, such as Michael Cohen's TikTok from several days ago.
Prosecution objects, and Judge Juan Merchan overrules.
Longstreet says she has not reviewed his TikTok account recently.
LOL.captkirk said:I guess his hypocrisy has some limitsaggiehawg said:
Rare display of sanity from Merchan.Quote:
Judge Juan Merchan sides with the defense and says he will not allow Trump's interview in 1999 about campaign finance into evidence.
He says trying to draw an inference to what he knew in 2015 or 2017 is a step too far.
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The next witness is Jaden Jarmel-Schneider, who is another paralegal from the Manhattan district attorney's office.
Jarmel-Schneider was tasked on this case with analyzing phone records, including the AT&T and Verizon records introduced earlier today.
He reviewed reports on Michael Cohen's phones. His review included text messages and call logs.
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Defense lawyer Todd Blanche is arguing that Georgia Longstreet reads social posts introduced in the trial but cannot offer any context around them.
"When Ms. Rodriguez talks about offers from the Daily Mail and the timing of those offers, you have no knowledge of whether she was telling the truth, do you?" Blanche asks.
"No," Longstreet says.
Blanche points out that David Pecker testified about texts he was a party to and could offer context, but in this case, Longstreet has no personal knowledge of these text messages, their context or whether any of them are true."Were you also tasked with reviewing Ms. Daniels' social media over the past couple of years?" Blanche asks. "Yes," she answers.Quote:
"You just read what was written in the exhibit, correct?" Blanche asks. "And that was different … from when Mr. Pecker is asked the reasoning behind text messages, correct?"
"Yes," Longstreet says.
She did not review a tweet from Daniels last night, she says.
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Jaden Jarmel-Schneider prepared a report to show which phone numbers were associated with which people and where the phone numbers show up in evidence.
The report is being shown to the jury.
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Jaden Jarmel-Schneider is now going through how he prepared the report.
He's going into details like how they normalized the time zones from the different carriers.
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Jaden Jarmel-Schneider is now confirming that the exhibits are calls between people like Dylan Howard, Keith Davidson, Gina Rodriguez and other witnesses.
Calls between Michael Cohen and Dylan Howard, Cohen and David Pecker, Cohen and Keith Schiller, and Cohen and Allen Weisselberg are also among those analyzed.
The exhibits are being introduced into evidence.
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As another paralegal from the Manhattan district attorney's office is on the witness stand, Donald Trump is leaning his elbows on the defense table, using a yellow highlighter to highlight lines on a piece of paper in front of him.
He appears to be reading the document and periodically highlighting parts of it, according to journalists in the courtroom. He does not appear to be engaged with what is happening with the witness on the stand.
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The first document prosecutors are now going through shows calls between Michel Cohen and Allen Weisselberg.
The document includes times in both ET and UTC, who the call was from, who it was to and the duration of the call.
I believe that finding will be disputed by the defense. Prosecution is using a paralegal that has not been qualified as an expert here.Quote:
Paralegal Jaden Jarmel-Schneider said he identified an incoming call to Michael Cohen's phone at the same time that his recording ended.
For context: Prosecutors have said that Cohen's recording of his conversation with Doanld Trump about the Karen McDougal payment was cut off by an incoming call. Trump attorney Emil Bove on cross-examination of the computer forensics expert from the district attorney's office suggested that there was no incoming call.
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The jury is now seeing a summary chart of the the 34 business records that prosecutors allege have been falsified.
This includes 11 invoices, 12 vouchers and 11 checks.
Each respective invoice, voucher or check in the demonstrative exhibit has a corresponding count number to spell out the indictment for the jury
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Trump attorney Emil Bove objects to the next exhibit prosecutors want to introduce. The defense engaged in a sidebar with prosecutors following Bove's objection.
The next exhibit is a summary chart of vouchers, checks and ledger entries, according to reporters in the courtroom.
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Former Trump attorney William Brennan criticized Stormy Daniels on CNN today for "taunting the defendant" on social media, and called her actions "grounds for a mistrial."
Daniels, who testified on Thursday about her alleged sexual encounter in 2006 with the former president, seemingly disparaged Trump on X later that evening: "Real men respond to testimony by being sworn in and taking the stand in court," she wrote. "Oh...wait. Nevermind."
Trump on Thursday afternoon had asked Judge Juan Merchan to alter the gag order to allow him to respond publicly to Daniels' testimony. The judge denied the motion.
Every defendant in the US has the right not to testify, Brennan told CNN on Friday, and juries are instructed not to draw any adverse inference if a defendant chooses not to.
Daniels' tweets "will play in the hands of the defense," said Brennan. He said he would ask the judge to poll the jurors and ask if they had seen the tweet and whether it affected them.
"Jurors aren't supposed to look at social media, but they do," he claimed.
I still quesion how an invoice from a vendor is a Trump created financial record?Quote:
Most of the jurors are looking at their screens as the document is displayed.
The summary chart shows the 34 business records prosecutors allege have been falsified.
Is the Stormy Daniels tweet that was mentioned from the CNN correspondent the one that the defense wanted the gag order temporarily lifted for?
Here's the tweet. Note the date.
Real men respond to testimony by being sworn in and taking the stand in court. Oh...wait. Nevermind.
— Stormy Daniels (@StormyDaniels) May 9, 2024
Interesting with her career background and line of work that she would use that as her standard to determine a man or not.aggiehawg said:
Here's the tweet. Note the date.Real men respond to testimony by being sworn in and taking the stand in court. Oh...wait. Nevermind.
— Stormy Daniels (@StormyDaniels) May 9, 2024
Believe it or not I really think the defense lawyers are tickled to death about the gag order. Their efforts to lift it are Luke warm. It's a solid appeal ground and it keeps Donald from shooting himself in the foot on a daily basis.
Now I totally disagree with how it's only applicable to the defendant and not all parties. But the defense is not totally appalled with it because it makes their job easier
Now I totally disagree with how it's only applicable to the defendant and not all parties. But the defense is not totally appalled with it because it makes their job easier
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because hard men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
It's not like he's staying quiet lol....but we can assume he'd be a lot louder without it. Just glad on the other side Stormy and Cohen are running their mouths on the internet like idiots.Foreverconservative said:
Believe it or not I really think the defense lawyers are tickled to death about the gag order. Their efforts to lift it are Luke warm. It's a solid appeal ground and it keeps Donald from shooting himself in the foot on a daily basis.
Now I totally disagree with how it's only applicable to the defendant and not all parties. But the defense is not totally appalled with it because it makes their job easier
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Trump lawyer Emil Bove is now questioning district attorney office paralegal Jaden Jarmel-Schneider.
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Georgia Longstreet, a paralegal in the Manhattan District Attorney's office who testified earlier in the trial, took the stand again Friday to introduce records of text messages, contact records and several Trump tweets.
In particular, she read a series of text messages between Stormy Daniels' former publicist Gina Rodriguez and National Enquirer editor Dylan Howard as they negotiated over a deal to pay Stormy for her story about Trump.
"We're not doing the Trump deal," Rodriguez wrote to Howard on October 17, 2016. "They didn't pay when they said they would and they keep trying to buy more time."
Just over a week later, Howard texted about the deal again. "I blew a gasket at this people and told them not to **** with people. Message made and heard."
Rodriguez responded: "Thank you so much do you think it will happen," and Howard wrote back, "Yes. They were told in no uncertain terms."
On cross-examination, Longstreet confirmed she simply read the messages and could not provide any context around them.
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Trump lawyer Emil Bove began by asking paralegal Jaden Jarmel-Schneider whether the work he prepared took a lot of time.
"At times, tedious work?" Bove asked.
"Honestly, I kind of enjoyed it," Jarmel-Schneider responds, prompting laugher in the courtroom. Several jurors laughed, too.
"I hear that, respect," Bove says.
That's not good.Quote:
Defense attorney Emil Bove is challenging the evidence prosecutors are putting forward, asking paralegal Jaden Jarmel-Schneider about the deletion of some toll records between Keith Davidson and Michael Cohen after the defense submitted recordings between the two from 2018.
The paralegal has admitted that they've deleted some call records from the files. Bove also has Jarmel-Schneider confirm that some calls were removed from an exhibit of calls between Gina Rodriguez and Dylan Howard.
Bove said it was three-pages worth of records.
Jarmel-Schneider took issue with Bove characterizing it as a "significant" number but he did acknowledge some were removed.Quote:
"At this trial, you're sort of the guardian of the toll records?" Bove asks.
"I don't know if I'd say that, but if you say so," Jarmel-Schneider responds.
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Trump attorney Emil Bove is now pulling up a text message previously shown about Trump's longtime former aide Hope Hicks calling David Pecker, the former CEO of American Media.
Bove asks Jaden Jarmel-Schneider to confirm there were no records of such a call.
Jarmel-Schneider says he doesn't believe so, but he isn't sure off the top of his head.
Trump is now looking at Jarmel-Schneider as he testifies.
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The defense team's cross-examination is over, and prosecutors are now starting around round of questions with Jaden Jarmel-Schneider on the stand.
That does look like Stormy Daniels trying to infer something about a defendant's 5th amendment rights.aggiehawg said:
Here's the tweet. Note the date.Real men respond to testimony by being sworn in and taking the stand in court. Oh...wait. Nevermind.
— Stormy Daniels (@StormyDaniels) May 9, 2024
She should have gone with "The mob takes the Fifth. If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?"
As a layperson, she can do that outside of court.Quote:
That does look like Stormy Daniels trying to infer something about a defendant's 5th amendment rights.
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Prosecutor Chris Conroy is asking Jaden Jarmel-Schneider about why the summary charts were shortened.
The paralegal said that the calls that were cut from the summary charts are still in evidence elsewhere. He said they were trimmed from the summary exhibit: "My understanding is the decision was always going to be that we would admit the part of the call summaries related to what had come out in trial."
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Jaden Jarmel-Schneider is off the stand and his testimony is over.
He testified for 47 minutes.
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The prosecution is finished with witness testimony for today. Judge Juan Merchan is now addressing the jury.
As Merchan read his lengthy instructions to the jury about avoiding news coverage and discussing the case, Trump was in a full conversation with Bove.
Merchan paused and said to them, "You done?"
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Attorneys will be discussing evidence before we adjourn.
Trump should've said no you honor I am not done not by a longshot!
Cohen and who else?Quote:
Judge Juan Merchan is asking about scheduling.
"We expect to call two witnesses," prosecutor Joshua Steinglass says. "And I think it's entirely possible we will rest by the end of next week."
aggiehawg said:Cohen and who else?Quote:
Judge Juan Merchan is asking about scheduling.
"We expect to call two witnesses," prosecutor Joshua Steinglass says. "And I think it's entirely possible we will rest by the end of next week."
I'm certain that they will have some mundane non expert to regurgitate some fluff to help douse the flames that will be left after Cohen. There's no way they rest with him as their last witness
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because hard men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
I am intrigued why, with all of their resources, prosecution has not called any experts on the cell phone data extraction. Using their own paralegals instead?
Has Merchan already disallowed the defense's tender of experts in that field so the state didn't feel the need to have experts of their own?
Has Merchan already disallowed the defense's tender of experts in that field so the state didn't feel the need to have experts of their own?
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Prosecutor Chris Conroy says they want to submit Allen Weisselberg's severance agreement from the Trump Organization into evidence. The defense objects.
"He is an uncalled government witness," Trump attorney Emil Bove says of Weisselberg, saying the prosecution's theory is that he conspired with Cohen and gave instructions to McConney.
"Mr. Weisselberg's absence from this trial is a very complicated issue," Bove says.
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Defense Emil Bove said they'll likely need an instruction for the jury about uncalled witnesses on both sides. It is unclear if Donald Trump will testify.
"Mr. (Allen) Weisselberg is in prison right now and not available to anyone," Bove said.
Bove also said the severance agreement is unduly prejudicial. He argued there would be "undue prejudice" to the jury to admit the severance agreement, saying it's "unduly confusing" because Weisselberg is in prison.
"If either side tried to call him he would likely invoke" his Fifth Amendment, Bove said.
"We don't think it's relevant that he entered into this agreement after the fact," Bove also said.
Prosecutor Chris Conroy weighed in, saying, "What we are looking to do is explain from our perspective why he's not here."
"Mr. Weisselberg's interest are "aligned with the defendant's," Conroy said.
The agreement includes provisions for Weisselberg not to disparage the company or its officers and employees, Conroy said.
Conroy said he imagines the defense will make arguments about "whether he should've been here and what him not being here means."
Usually, there is communication from Weisselberg's counsel that if subpoenaed, his client would plead the 5th. Guess that didn't happen here?Quote:
Judge Juan Merchan asks if anyone has attempted to compel Allen Weisselberg's testimony.
Prosecutor Chris Conroy says they have not.
"I think it would be helpful to me in making my decision, if I could see that some efforts were taken to compel his appearance," Merchan says.
Not to talk nor follow anything happening in the case. But the horse has already left the barn on that one.Quote:
Trump attorney Todd Blanche is now moving on to ask that the judge put a gag order in place so Michael Cohen cannot speak publicly about the case.
Blanche points to the TikTok Cohen posted this week wearing a white T-shirt with a picture of Trump behind bars. He's also asking for the judge to order the prosecution to instruct the witness not to talk about this case.
Cohen is expected to begin his testimony on Monday.
That's a problem for the judge. By rights, Cohen should not be allowed to testify for violation of the rules or at least have a hearing on the issue outside the presence of the jury with Merchan asking Cohen about following the testimony in the case before he's allowed to take the stand.
Did the prosecution just shorten their case by a week from what they said a few days ago?
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Trump attorney Todd Blance is asking Judge Juan Merchan to order the prosecution to instruct Michael Cohen, who is expected to begin testifying Monday, not to talk about this case.
The defense team is asking "the court order the government to instruct the witness to not talk about President Trump or this case until the case is over," Blanche says.
Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass responds saying they have "no control" over what witnesses do.
"We have repeatedly repeatedly asked the witnesses not to do that," he says, adding prosecutors "have repeatedly instructed all of the witnesses in this case to the extent we have control over it."
Didn't they say 2 more weeks which I guess 1 of those 2 would be this week?jt2hunt said:
Did the prosecution just shorten their case by a week from what they said a few days ago?
Not really. I think they expect Cohen to be on the stand for several days and with court being dark on Wednesdays, he could on well into late Thursday between direct, cross, redirect, recross, reredirect.jt2hunt said:
Did the prosecution just shorten their case by a week from what they said a few days ago?
Cohen is disbarred, he doesn't care what the judge says.Quote:
Judge Juan Merchan says that he would "direct the people to communicate to Mr. (Michael) Cohen that the judge is asking him to refrain from making any more statements" about this case or Trump.
Merchan tells prosecutors to inform him this is coming from the bench.
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Trump has turned to leave, papers in hand.
When walking out, he motioned for Jeannine Pirro to follow him. She's still sitting in her seat in the press gallery.
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Prosecutors have left the courtroom following day 15 of Trump's criminal hush money trial.
Too late now might as well just let Cohen keep drilling holes in the prosecution case every time he opens his mouth.
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because hard men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
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